Must have ended early today Fri 21st April

There are quite a few "emulated" Atari BBS's out there, almost all 8bit, but there's still Atari BBS's running on real hardware. Check the list below. http://sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php Advancement's over the last few years in the Atari scene do help quite a bit. DarkForce! is running on a Mega ST with: 4 megs of RAM AdSpeed accelerator (16mhz/cache) Cloudy TOS decoder (TOS v2.06 and EmuTOS, switchable) Lightning ST mod - can give IDE but I'm using it for the superb USB support. Just pop in a SD card do file backup/transfer with ease. ICD's Link 2 4 Gig SCSI hard drive 2x SCSI CD-ROM SyQuest EZ135 SCSI removable Audio mod - brings the ST sound out to external speakers - no need to leave the monitor on all the time for sound. RSVE mod - standard serial port bumped up to 38.4k speed. WiModem232 - awesome device! PicoWiFi - for faster wireless file transfer. Atari SC1224 monitor (JVC brand - the view is good). I use HDDriver v11.x and ExtenDOS by Anodyne Software for the CD-ROM. HTH's.

I can’t tell if you are being cheeky or serious… from what i understand bbs express (which i did actually buy and run back in the day) can be endlessly modified down to prompt levels - but it never really captured my interest as much as carina/oasis or even forem 1030/marshware… with the hardware mods that are available these days with atari i just thought perhaps there might be some things that could be done now that could not be done back in the day… total apologies if i asked a stupid question… certainly was not my intent.

Is this a joke? That has to be a trick question...

I do understand that atari term programs can do ansi… that being said - does anyone find any value in a true atari hardware bbs?

This is some really great work. Thank you for taking the time to promote it.

Very nice. Cool to see them responding so quickly (and accurately) to your request. Just waiting for the Android version...

Atari BBSing has gotten easier for those who have an iPhone, iPad, or Mac. Muffinterm, available from the Apple App Store, now supports ATASCII. So far, I have not found any problems with their ATASCII emulation; it just works. The best part is that Muffinterm is free! Here are a couple screenshots I made on my iPhone:

Greetings! As has been discussed in various places, we've decided to change the schedule for the monthly chat (or monthly chats, to be precise!) The Zoom meetings will no longer be on the first Friday of the month, but instead be on the first Sunday (at 3pm eastern) and third Firday (at 8pm eastern). We're hoping that this will allow for a little more flexibility so that those who might have to miss a meeting don't have to wait an entire month, as well as a few having conflicts with first Friday meetings. Also, the hope is that the meetings will be a little shorter. This means our next meeting will be Sunday, February 5th 2023 at 3pm eastern. Call one of your favorite Atari BBS's for the meeting links! The old TinyUrl links have been redirected to a page explaining the schedule change. Also, if you'd prefer an email reminder, just email sysop@sfhqbbs.org and I'll be happy to do so (individually, so that I'm not putting people on a mailing list). Safe travels!

hi Bikerbob, well, it is a cart so I would go on the assumption that it does not need 64k, but I have not tested with less. my bench is quite busy at the moment. I will try soon on a 32k 800 and a 16k 600xl. Ken

Hold option on power up, what do you see?

Ken I was going to test my 800 stock as well, but I thought the new version of the program requires 64k Also is there a disk based version of the program? That way we verify if it's a cart problem or program issue. James

I have a stock 800 I will try it on as well. It works fine in my 1088xel and all my 800xls. As for carts. I have all OSS I have oss4in1 I have spartados cart. Other than that all the carts I have are games. James

what other Atari or othe BITD factory cartridges that do drive access do you have?

My 800 is an incognito with Super Colour Card. I have done the phi2 mod to the cartridge slot. I think there is something going wrong as it accesses io on that machine. A drive never sees access no matter what I use for a drive. Without this cart.. it works perfectly with anything I can throw at it. Works on an 800xl with u1mb .. essentially the same machine, as my incognito is set to XL bios 1088mb I could set the 800xl to collen mode and see if it does anything.. but I figure it must be a physical machine thing. James

hi Bikerbob, sorry to be late to the forum. but that sounds kinda weird. I would think that Keith would have put a timeout in for that and just loaded a default config. I will have to look into that. I do have a couple 800 but they are both stock. what enhancements do you have in yours? Ken

Yeah.. same. Ill keep working on it.

did you try writing and then loading it? AT&W AT&L then ATZ do not do F ! also use 46 to lock out telnet from streams etc.

https://github.com/bozimmerman/Zimodem/discussions/94 Thats my issue. Almost every BBS program Starts by issuing the Modem an ATZ - its written right in the code. So it would be better if the modem could remember what was saved.

what exactly did they miss? I am trying to find what's not there other than turning off +++ escape sequence, which to this day is the bane of BBS existence ATZ : closes all open socket connections (preserving the Access Point connection), stops all listeners, and resets the state of the Command processor to the saved configuration, preserving the current baud rate and wifi connection. A/ : Repeats the previous command ATI : re-shows the startup message, including wifi connection information. ATI0 : same as ATI ATI1 : Shows the current common variable settings, common 'S' registers. ATI2 : Shows the modem's current IP address ATI3 : Shows the modem's current Wireless Router connection ATI4 : Shows only the firmware current version ATI5 : Shows all the current variable settings, all 'S' registers. ATI6 : Shows the current mac address. ATI7 : Shows the current formatted time (see AT&T). ATI8 : Shows the firmware build date/time ATI9 : Same as I3, but also includes any static settings, same order as ATW ATI10: Shows the last printer url used. ATA : If a server listener has generated a RING, then ATA will switch the last rung connection to Stream mode (see ATD). ATAn : Causes the modem to create a server listening on port n. When a connection is received, the terminal will generate 1 or more RINGs according to the ATS0 register, followed by a normal CONNECT respose. At this point, all other commands related to connections may be used normally, unless ATS41 is > 0, in which case incoming connections are automatically sent to Stream mode as per ATD or ATA. Listeners are listed along with other connections using ATC0. ATAPn : Adding a P modifier causes all incoming connection input to be translated to PETSCII ATATn : Adding a T modifier causes connection streaming input to be translated per TELNET when the changed to Stream mode ATAEn : Adding a E modifier causes connection terminal echo to be enabled when the changed to Stream mode ATAXn : Adding a X modifier causes connection XON/XOFF flow control to be enabled when the changed to Stream mode. ATN0 : Shuts down all listeners, leaving client connections open ATNn : if n > 0 then same as ATAn ATE0 : Turns serial terminal echo off for command mode. ATE1 : Turns serial terminal echo on for command mode. ATV0 : Turns off verbose responses mode (Uses Terse Numeric response mode) ATV1 : Turns on verbose responses mode (Uses Word response mode) ATX0 : Turns off extended response codes (1/CONNECT instead of 5/CONNECT 2, etc..) ATX1 : Turns on extended response codes (5/CONNECT 2 instead of 1/CONNECT, etc..) ATF0 : Turns on rts/cts flow control. ATF1 : Turns on xon/xoff flow control. ATF2 : Turns on xon/xoff flow control, sets XON mode (if necessary), and, in command mode, will immediately go to XOFF when a single connection packet is received. This is very useful when the client wants to ensure it only receives one packet to process. You can think of this as an alternative way to use xon/xoff by having XOFF automatic between packets. ATF3 : Similar to ATF2 except that the default is XOFF, and, in command mode, a XON code from the user will immediately trigger either an empty packet response [ 0 0 0 ], or a real packet if one is available. After this, as in ATF2, XOFF is automatically set. ATF4 : Turns off flow control for command mode ATQ0 : Turns off quiet mode (Sends response codes) ATQ1 : Turns on quiet mode (Stops sending response codes) ATR0 : Suppresses linefeed (\n $0a) in end of lines. Will only send carriage return (\r $0d). ATR1 : Sends \r\n ($0d0a) as end of line string. ATR2 : Sends \n\r ($0a0d) as end of line string. ATR3 : Suppresses carriage return (\r $0d) in end of lines. Will only send linefeed (\n $0a). ATBn : Sets a new serial Baud Rate. Takes effect immediately. ATB"n,xYz" : Sets baud rate n, bits x, parity (E,O,M, or N) for Y, and stop bits z. ATW : List all wireless network access points scanned within range. The response for each entry is the SSID, following by the RSSI, followed by an * character is the connection is encrypted. ATWn : Where n > 0, this lists up to n wireless network access points scanned within range. The response for each entry is the SSID, following by the RSSI, followed by an * character is the connection is encrypted. ATW"[SSI],[PASSWORD]" : Connects to the wireless access point with the given SSI, using the given password. ATW"[SSI],[PASSWORD],[IP],[DNS],[GATEWAY],[SUBNET]" : as ATW, but with more options ATWP : Adding a P modifier is the same as all forms of ATW, with both arguments and results presented in PETSCII. ATD : Start a streaming connection between the current opened connection. Use "+++" to exit back to Command mode. ATDn : Where n > 0, this will start a streaming connection between the previously opened connection with an id the same as n. Use "+++" to exit back to Command mode. ATD"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : This opens a streaming connection between the terminal and the given host/port. Use "+++" to disconnect and exit back to command mode. ATDP"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a P modifier causes connection input to be translated to PETSCII during the streaming session. ATDT"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a T modifier causes connection input to be translated per TELNET during the streaming session. ATDE"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a E modifier causes terminal echo to be enabled that streaming session. ATDX"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a X modifier causes XON/XOFF flow control to be enabled that streaming session. ATDnnnnnnn : Where n=0-9, if the digits exist in the phonebook (see ATP), it will try connect to that host, with those modifiers, from the phonebook. ATC : Shows information about the current network connection in the following format "[CONNECTION STATE] [CONNECTION ID] [CONNECTED TO HOST]:[CONNECTED TO PORT]" ATC0 : Lists information about all of the network connections in the following format "[CONNECTION STATE] [CONNECTION ID] [CONNECTED TO HOST]:[CONNECTED TO PORT]", including any Server (ATA) listeners. ATCn : Where n > 0, this changes the Current connection to the one with the given ID. If no connection exists with the given id, ERROR is returned. ATC"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Creates a new connection to the given host and port, assigning a new id if the connection is successful, and making this connection the new Current connection. The quotes and colon are required. ATCP"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a P modifier causes all connection input to be translated to PETSCII ATCT"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a T modifier causes streaming input to be translated per TELNET when the changed to Stream mode ATCE"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a E modifier causes terminal echo to be enabled when the changed to Stream mode ATCX"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]" : Adding a X modifier causes XON/XOFF flow control to be enabled when the changed to Stream mode ATH : Hangs up (disconnects and deletes) all open connections. Does not close Server listeners. ATH0 : Hangs up (disconnects and deletes) the current opened connection. ATHn : Hangs up (disconnects and deletes) the open connection with the given id. Closing a Server (ATA) listener does not close any connections received from that listener. ATO : Re-enters a Streaming session (see ATD) under the previous settings, with the current (previous) connection. ATP : Lists all existing phonebook entries, with the format phone number followed by ATD modifiers, followed by the host and port. Add ? to also get notes. ATP"[NUMBER]=[HOSTNAME]:[PORT],[NOTES]" : Adds or Modifies an entry to the phonebook with the given 7 digit number, host, port, and notes. Use ATDnnnnn.. to connect. ATPP"[NUMBER]=[HOSTNAME]:[PORT],[NOTES]" : Adding a P modifier causes connection input to be translated to PETSCII when connected to that entry. ATPT"[NUMBER]=[HOSTNAME]:[PORT],[NOTES]" : Adding a T modifier causes connection input to be translated per TELNET when connected to that entry. ATPE"[NUMBER]=[HOSTNAME]:[PORT],[NOTES]" : Adding a E modifier causes terminal echo to be enabled when connected to that entry. ATPX"[NUMBER]=[HOSTNAME]:[PORT],[NOTES]" : Adding a X modifier causes XON/XOFF flow control to be enabled when connected to that entry. ATP"[NUMBER]=DELETE" : Removes the phonebook entry with the given number. ATS0=n : Changes the number of RING messages received before a CONNECT response is sent, on incoming Server listeners. ATS1=n : Unimplemented, always returns OK ATS2=n : Change the escape character (n = 0-255), Defaults to ASCII decimal 43 ("+") ATS3=n : Change the Carriage Return Character (n = 0-127), Defaults to ASCII decimal 13 (Carriage Return) ATS4=n : Change the Line Feed Character (0-127), Defaults ASCII decimal 10 (Line Feed) ATS5=n : Change the Backspace Character (0-32), ASCII decimal 8 (Backspace) ATS6 ... 39=n : Unimplemented, always returns OK ATS40=n : Change the size of the connection packets (n > 0), Defaults to 127 bytes ATS41=n : When n > 0, all incoming Server listener connections are immediately sent to Stream mode. If n=0, connections remain in normal command mode (default). ATS42=n : Set the CRC8 for an attached Transmit command. e.g. ATS42=123T"[MESSAGE]" returns error unless 123 is CRC8 of "[MESSAGE]". ATS43=n : Sets a standby baud rate n for the next incoming or outgoing connection only. ATZ clears. ATS44=n : Sets an automatic delay of n milliseconds after most bytes written to the Serial port. This is for computers that support a baud rate, but can't really keep up, and you don't want to use flow control. ATS45=n : Changes how packet and at&g data is delivered. 0 is normal binary with normal headers, 1 is 78 char HEX digit streams followed by EOLN with hex digit headers, 2 is decimal digits followed by EOLN, with decimal digit headers, 3 is normal without SUM header. Add 4 to add packet numbers. ATS46=n : Changes DCD status. n=0 is default DCD=HIGH=online. n=1 is DCD=LOW=online. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. ATS47=n : Changes DCD pin number, n=2 is default ATS48=n : Changes CTS status. n=0 is default CTS=HIGH=active. n=1 is CTS=LOW=active. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. ATS49=n : Changes CTS pin number, n=0 is default on ESP01, and default is 5 otherwise ATS50=n : Changes RTS status. n=0 is default RTS=HIGH=active. n=1 is RTS=LOW=active. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. (N/A on ESP01) ATS51=n : Changes RTS pin number, n=4 is default (N/A on ESP01) ATS52=n : Changes RI status. n=0 is default RI=HIGH=active. n=1 is RTS=LOW=active. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. (N/A on ESP01) ATS53=n : Changes RI pin number, n=14 is default (N/A on ESP01) ATS54=n : Changes DTR status. n=0 is default DTR=HIGH=active. n=1 is RTS=LOW=active. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. (N/A on ESP01) ATS55=n : Changes DTR pin number, n=12 is default (N/A on ESP01) ATS56=n : Changes DSR status. n=0 is default DSR=HIGH=active. n=1 is RTS=LOW=active. n=2 always HIGH. n=3 always LOW. (N/A on ESP01) ATS57=n : Changes DSR pin number, n=13 is default (N/A on ESP01) ATS60=n : When n > 0, immediately saves existing listeners and automatically restores them later. n=0 to clear. ATS61=n : When n > 0, sets the number of seconds to timeout a print job stream (AT+PRINT). Default is 5 seconds ATS62=n : When n > 0, enables/disables telnet support in the ATD (Dial) command. Default is 1 (enabled). +++ : With a 1 second pause with no other characters afterwards, this will disconnect the current opened connection. ATT"[MESSAGE]" : Transmit the given text string, with \r\n at the end, on the current connection. ATTn : Where n > 0, this starts a transmit of exactly n bytes to the current connection. The \n from entering this command must be followed by the n bytes to transmit. ATTP"[MESSAGE]" : Transmit the given text string, translating petscii to ascii, with \r\n at the end, on the current connection. ATTPn : Where n > 0, this starts a transmit of exactly n bytes to the current connection, translating petscii to ascii. The \n from entering this command must be followed by the n bytes to transmit. ATT+"[MESSAGE] : A + argument may be used to force the 'T' command to return the CRC8 of the message instead of OK, when successful. ATL0 : Re-sends the most recently sent data packet again ATLn : Re-sends the most recently sent data packet for connection id n. Prefix n with 0 for earlier packet. AT&H : Shows a help file from the web, or brief help otherwise. Use &H6502 to reiforce web download. AT&L : Reloads the saved configuration. AT&W : Saves the current configuration: WiFi settings(ATW), baud rate (ATB), end of line (ATR) settings, flow control (ATF), echo mode (ATE), extended responses (ATX), verbose responses (ATV), quiet responses (ATQ), PETSCII mode (AT&P1), pin statuses (ATS46 - S58), Rings (ATS0), Listener Stream-mode (ATS41), and Listener restore (ATS60), printer spec (AT+PRINT), and busy message. AT&F : Restores the modem to factory default settings. Use &F86 to reformat the SPIFFS. AT&On : n is 1 to turn on internal serial-reception log, n is 0 to turn off or view a previously turned-on log, n is 88 to turn on ESP32 debug port. AT&U : Checks the firmware home page to see if a new version is available. AT&U6502 : Will update the firmware from the home page on the web. AT&U=x: Will update the firmware from the web to custom version x. AT&Kn : Flow Control, similar to ATFn, n=0,1,2: disable, n=3,6: rts/cts, n=4,5: Xon/Xoff AT&Pn : Where n > 0, all command mode input and output will be translated to/from PETSCII before internal processing. This will not affect received packet data, or the stream mode. AT&Nx : Shows the status of ESP module I/O pin x AT&Mn : Adds the byte denoted by n to a list of mask-out bytes. These are bytes that are not transmitted to the serial port in command mode incoming packets. If this command is followed by a C, N, or A command on the SAME LINE, then the setting will apply ONLY to that connection or listener. AT&M : Resets the mask-out bytes list. No bytes will be masked-out. If this command is followed by a C, N, or A command on the SAME LINE, then the setting will apply ONLY to that connection or listener. AT&Dn : Adds the byte denoted by n to a list of delimiter bytes. These are bytes that will compose the last byte in a command-mode incoming packet that is still shorter than the limit set by ATS40. This is useful for CR-LF formatted data. If this command is followed by a C, N, or A command on the SAME LINE, then the setting will apply ONLY to that connection or listener. AT&D : Resets the delimiter bytes list. No bytes will be delimited, and packets will contain as many bytes as are received and allowed by ATS40. If this command is followed by a C, N, or A command on the SAME LINE, then the setting will apply ONLY to that connection or listener. AT&S"40=[HOSTNAME]" : Change the modem hostname AT&S"41=[TERMTYPE]" : Change the telnet 'termtype' response string AT&S"42=[BUSYMSG]" : Change the stream connection 'busy message' AT&T"[TIMEZONE],[TIME FORMAT],[NTP URL]" : set up the NTP clock. DISABLE to disable. Format is like Java SimpleDateFormat, but with % escapes. Each argument is optional. AT&G"[HOSTNAME]:[PORT]/[FILENAME]" : Streams a file from an HTTP source on the internet. The header contains channel 0, file length, and an 8-bit sum of all the bytes in the forthcoming file, followed by the bytes of the file, all formatted as a normal packet. An ASCII 3 (CNTRL-C) received during the transfer will abort. The S44 register can be used to create artificial delays in this output. XON/XOFF Flow control also remains in effect with, on a byte-by-byte basis for the auto and manual flow control systems. Requires flash space for caching, or S45=3 to eliminate the SUM header. AT&Y : Resets the state machine string. No state machine will be executed. AT&Yn : Change the current state (for command mode AND current connection) to state n, where n is a decimal number. AT&Y"[CODED STATE MACHINE]" : Adds the coded format string to a state machine. If this command is followed by a C, N, or A command on the SAME LINE, then the setting will apply ONLY to that connection or listener. State Machine Format: MMcCCNN ... States are numbered by their order in the list starting with 00. Non-matches automatically go to the next state until a match is made. 'MM' is hex byte to match (or 00 to match all). 'c' is one of these commands :e=eat byte, p=push byte to que, d=send byte, q=send all queued, x=flush queue, r=replace with byte represented by hex CC. 'C' is either '-', one of the command letters above, or a hex byte value if the first command was 'r'. 'NN' is the next state to go to, with 00 being the first state.