Philflound

I posted a new topic for the 1986 Casino Atari Corp box variation, but it doesn't seem to have much interest. I'm real surprised as I've seen grey Hangman boxes often and other "rare" variations. I've never seen a box for the 1986 Casino. That is why it was never on my website and also never on any other I've ever seen. But when I opened the box of games yesterday, I was really surprised it was sitting there along with a sealed 1986 Backgammon Atari Corp. I may replace the image for that one too, have to compare the condition. Anyway, the Casino has now been added to its appropriate page. I'm wondering how much it's worth as I don't even see a loose one on Ebay for sale or completed/sold. So enjoy. I'll be going through the other boxes I've acquired and though probably not going to find a new variation, I've been adding and probably will add more printer info. Thanks. Phil

What hasn't been mentioned is that ET wasn't the only game to get pulled from the landfill and offered for sale. I would never purchase any of these. They are garbage, though people believe nostalgic garbage. Back during Mickey Mantle rookie, Topps double printed the card and had so many cases unsold they dumped them in the Hudson River. Maybe we should take an underwater expedition to NYC and see if we can find them and sell blobs of stuck together cardboard (if they're not disintegrated by now) for millions of dollars.

Well, you'll have to add garbage/landfill smell and then seal them with certificate that the ones offered has.

Thanks. I'm just happy I'll have it for my variation site. I'll try and get it updated tomorrow. I also got a 1986 Backgammon sealed in the deal too. Though that one isn't as nice condition.

After so many years and never seeing this, I finally acquired it without knowing it was this version. The 1986 Casino variation is extremely rare. Doing a search on Ebay yields nothing from what I can see. I don't even see a loose cartridge from this date. But with a purchase I just made, I received the variation in the box. But better yet, this is brand new sealed. Though not perfect, this is the first box I ever saw. Atarimania doesn't have a scan. I'm sure some collectors out there do though. So here are my scans. The website will be updated shortly. Phil

Your welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful. I updated the Combat box page with the new listing. I also replaced Maze Craze box 4 because that Atariguide scan was horrible and I finally found this very rare variation.

Your welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful.

Ok, I just made some purchases of boxed games. I'm discovering some more printer variations on the tiny flaps, so far for Raiders of the Lost Ark and Centipede, which is no big deal. At least I don't think it's a big deal. I'm going to have to scrutinize these boxes a little further to make sure there aren't any other "real" variations with these as I just discovered with Combat. On Combat box version 5, which is the warranty box on back that is the same color as the box, there are 4 different printer dates. I thought this was the only difference, so I always just write which dates you can find on the tiny flap. But looking at the front which lists the various game choices, I discovered that the 1/81 Adpak version has "TM" written after TANK PONG and INVISIBLE TANK instead of the registered (R) which I'm showing on the site. I'm a little upset because I don't know (unless I have them in my storage) which of the other 3 dates are TM or (R). I'm guessing the earlier dates of 1980 are the (R) and the 1981 are the TM. If anyone can confirm these for me, I'd appreciate it. I'll be adding the new scanned TM box variant in the next few days. I'll post any other true variations I find over the next few days. I'm expecting some more boxed games in the mail soon enough. Thanks.

I was going through the various 3rd party companies to see which ones I hadn't completed. I noticed Froggo link wasn't working, so I fixed that. I also added all the manuals for that company. Then I also noticed that some of the smaller 3rd party I had not put manuals such as First Star, Epyx, etc. I will try and do those too this morning. It's filling out well. Then I'll get back to Sears.

Got the Fast Food scan and already put it up on the site. Thanks for helping with that Daniel. I don't know what time I'll have over the next week to work on much with the Thanksgiving holidays, but hopefully I can do a little more. Phil

Daniel comes through again. He sent me a Cosmic Creeps Assembled in Mexico box variation. Coconuts already had this variation and looking at the list, Fast Food should also definitely have this variation as the cartridge label has the same printed like Cosmic Creeps and Coconuts. The other 3 games have labels with no printed, so I'm not sure if there would be a Mexico variation or not, but please be on the lookout. Thanks. Phil

Thanks to Daniel, I discovered that there were new box variations of Spacechase and Skeet Shoot. He provided me with the Spacechase which turned out that the original had no product # on the box, and then Apollo decided to stamp the product #. Investigating the other titles, it turned out Skeet Shoot also has this variation. I found a scan of the front. I'm assuming the back is the same and has no stamp product # like the Spacechase. I'm updating it now. Thanks. Phil I did notice that the stamp is not in the same location on the box. But I will not be noting that in the listing.

Site has been going well with updates. Tigervision is finished for now (not doing manuals for any companies at this time). I've just uploaded the beginning of Sears, which I worked on months ago. I'm going to continue with Sears, but there will be lots of holes with boxes. I'm hoping collectors on here can help me with filling in what I'm missing. Also, if you have any printer info on any of the boxes I already have photos of, please let me know. Printer info is always good to know the order of when the items were released. I'm hoping to finish Sears carts and boxes by Christmas. I'll post any reason for delays though if possible. Thanks. Phil

Ok, I've been updating some Activision info and photos thanks to Daniel. I'm sure he'll be sending me more stuff. Paul gave me more scans and especially end labels of things I'm missing. I'm working on getting everything updated. If anyone has access to foreign versions of carts like CBS or Parker Bros, I have many main labels, but few end labels. I'd appreciate getting the end labels. I know most of the end labels probably are the same as others, but I don't want to assume and will wait until I verify them. I just uploaded the Tigervision cartridge scans. What I noted on the main page for Tigervision and will also say here is that I see several titles that have alternate color cartridges. I don't believe these are genuine to the title, though I may be wrong. It looks like there are secondary labels underneath the main labels. It should be very easy to create such variations. Unless I personally find them in the wild or get the info from a legitimate source, I'm keeping said variations off the list. If these were out there, I think I would see them offered for sale at least once in a while on Ebay. Anyway, I'm hoping to finish the Tigervision boxes within a couple of days, but want to get all the scans I've been sent updated on the site first. Thanks again for the help and I hope to keep getting more. Thanks to Daniel sending me the HERO activision scan, I now have added 2 additional boxes and updated my information describing them.

Thanks for the help. I plan to try and update any new contributions this weekend, though tomorrow is my wife's birthday, I may not be around to do much. I'm going away for business next weekend, so I'll try and do things as much as I can. Phil

Actually I think I may have posted something here but just for Atari made items that I believe may exist. I actually had planned doing that list when everything was all done. May take a few months. Will probably leave the manuals off the list at least for a while. Thanks for the suggestion though I already had it planned. Phil

Just did Ultravision, which doesn't have much. I'm working on Tigervision right now. What a lot of work this one is. What I had documented is nothing compared to what I'm finding. Especially with box variations. There are 2 things I'm specifically noting here in case you have questions. First is there are boxes with "Printed in Hongkong" where Hong Kong is not separated. I am keeping the word together if it is printed like that. It will not be a mistake on my part. I try and document the exact writing. The second one is there are a few games that supposedly have labels on different colored plastics. Jawbreaker, King Kong, and one other I can't remember offhand. I looked at the scans in Atarimania and they look like a second label was placed over the first. Plus on one of the games, the label has rounded corners on top and square on the bottom. I believe someone manufactured these themselves, so I will not consider them variations. Unless I ever see them first hand, I'll stick with my guns. Plus I look on Ebay and see no other copies out there. It's tough nowadays where labels can easily be printed at home to believe there are some unique or ultra rare variations out there. I'll try and put up the Tigervision pages, but am going away for a few days. Phil

My guess is that there are many of us out there who would pay that and more. It's one thing to get a rare item that few people have. It's better to get an item probably no one has. My guess is that there are no more than 10 in existence and that may be a generous number. It may not be a game, but I find paper items and books to be very collectible anywhere I go. I work with a guy who has many unique items related to comics, some signed by Stan Lee back while he was alive. You never know the price of items until you throw it up in an auction and watch the collectors fight over it. Great find and I congratulate you for it.

I don't see the Ebay listing that had this. What did you pay?

Forgot to mention that there is much research. Most of the new items I add is because I decide to look. I don't get too much help from people. Maybe a cart or box here and there. So it takes time, not only making the site, but I probably spend more time verifying and looking for new variations. Just when I thought I was finished with one company, I find there is a variation I don't have. I wish more people would contact me as they do Atarimania with their new items.

I have a substantial amount of paper. What I can't get online I'd have to scan. And scanning lots of manuals takes time. I plan on doing catalogs and warranties too along with inserts and such. But this project will get there eventually. What I'm aiming at will be to get the easiest items done first. Minimal effort. But you can view my document any time. It's pretty up to date as of a couple of weeks ago. I list everything I know about. Catalogs and warranties are in my possession, or at least most of them should be, so eventually all that will get scanned and uploaded. Just need patience. Phil

I haven't heard back from Cincy yet. Anyone who can provide me scans I appreciate. I can't use general photo shots unless I can crop them nicely. I finished the US Games this past weekend. I also just did Telesys. Again, no manuals as I'm trying to finish all the rest of the 3rd party carts/boxes. I found that Coconuts has a box variation on back saying Assembled in Mexico. There are 2 other carts that say this, but I don't see a box for this. So if there are carts from Mexico, there should be boxes. I'll try and look on Ebay and see what is available, but many of these boxes are tough to just get in general. I'll keep posting what I update so everyone can follow. If you see something wrong or have something I don't list, let me know and hopefully can provide pics. Thanks. Phil

Sealed is tough, but complete in box is not on many games. Combat I probably have 15-20 boxed copies, several different variations. Pac-man, at least 10, same with Asteroids and Missile Command. Space Invaders I'm probably down to 5-8 complete. I haven't looked at my inventory lately. I always keep one for sale on Ebay though and when I sell it, I go and get another to put on. Video Olympics is rather common along with Video Pinball. Warlords tan box I have a few along with Street Racer. Star Raiders is really common. I believe I have at least 7 boxed with controller. A tough one to get many times is Ms. Pac-Man 1982 version. I see many of the later ones being sold, especially sealed, but that 1982 is difficult and not easy to get a nice box too. Loose on the other hand, you can get pretty much anything common to rare for under $10. I usually do not sell loose games. Don't have an Ebay store and only use their free listings when they give them to me. Phil

According to what I understand, O Shea has nothing. Got rid of everything for the scrap of gold. Finding new in box in general is not easy short of the large supply of games from Venezuela.

According to what I understand, O Shea has nothing. Got rid of everything for the scrap of gold.