Varan said it best. The MS bashing is pretty pathetic. I guess hating MS is the "in" thing right now. Personally, I really don't care who makes what system - I just wanna play games. While the PS2 may sell the most and have the biggest game library, it's a lame system. While Sony does have some outstanding products, most of their stuff is mediocre at best. MS did their home work for the xbox. A PC in a box - maybe, but whats wrong with that? If anything, Sony is trying to make the PS2 a PC - HD add on, keyboard, mouse, and Linux OS coming soon. The xbox is pretty much what all serious gamers have ever wanted - 4 controller ports, HD, FAST load times, and killer capabilities. How all of those are to be used to full advantage remains to be seen. Nintendo will always be Nintendo - behind on the times but quality all the way. I for one am just happy that I have 3 choices again and enough good games to play.