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If you are only wanting to use the 2600 joysticks, then either the 2600-PDL or 2600-II. Difference between those is just what other controllers they also support. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

What is "proper"? The RetroArch controller mapping is designed for 90's & up A/B/X/Y gamepads and older controllers don't necessarily fit that. Wouldn't you map based on the controller you are using with the adapter and your personal preferences for menu navigation? Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

I don't have the 2600+, so I can't comment. Lag can come from other sources, like the video display. The original 2600 hardware sent every pixel directly to the TV screen. Newer video works with frames that are typically buffered and thus introduce delay in the video display. The ??? is because I learned that there can be a paddle jitter problem with the 2600-D9 when using on computers/systems that are not grounded. There is a section at the upper part of the web-site about this. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Yes, you can connect 2 2600-PDL's for 2 joysticks, 4 paddles. Technically any USB adapter will add some bit of lag as the adapter is some extra electronics in-between the controller and emulation. The question is if it is enough to be noticeable or not. I believe my adapters are the only ones that run at USB full speed and transmit the controller data 8 times fast than others only run at USB low speed. Colecovision controllers are partially 2600 compatible - the joystick U/D/L/R and 1st button work, the 2nd button and keypad will not work. I also have the 2600-D9 that supports Colecovision controllers. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Oh, I think the attached is the config file I used. It has be some time since I messed with Mister, so possible it is out of date. This would be for the II & PDL Change the PID in the file name to use with the original. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/ input_04d8_f947_v3.map

Sounds like the paddles were not mapped in the Mister controller setup - the paddles are the left sticks. Sorry, I don't have Mister setup up right now, or I would just post the controller config file for you to copy over. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

It is limited to the II, PDL or AtariVox-daptor firmware. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Yes, falling demand and the 2600-D9 supports those controllers, and could be confusing with having a lot of adapters. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Perhaps "button 3" is gamepad X (and then Y for paddle #2, leaving A/B just for joystick buttons 1/2). Mapping an actual gamepad and then trying it in the 7800 core to see what gamepad things work as what in the core might help decipher the mapping. Tom

I think I used the same steps as most people - struggled and failed to do it myself. Googled and found a map file for the D9. Changed the name to reflect the 2600-PDL's USB PID, and then the paddles worked. I doubt this is the answer you were looking for. I would like to go back at some point and try again to manually map it myself to understand it, but this got a working paddle which is all I was wanting to accomplish at the time. In retrospect, some of my trouble was probably not understanding some of terminology used - like MiSTer just says "sticks" which I was not initially getting was their reference to analog axis. Also, and I think this might have been my main problem, I was not setting the "peripheral ports" in the 7800 core - confusing as I don't think I had ever seen controller jacks refereed to as "peripheral ports".

Finally have a MiSTer for myself. Tested the paddle scaling using a 2600-PDL and the last official 7800 core release - Atari7800_20221227. Was off about 30% compared to the real hardware, so have posted a firmware update that looks to now be a spot on match - http://2600-daptor.com/2600-firmware.htm I'll retest and adjust as needed on official core releases. I don't think I want to chase after work-in-progress core beta versions. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Older versions of Stella require any USB controller (including USB adapters) to be already plugged in when Stella is started. Stella was updated at some point to where USB devices can be plugged in and be recognized after Stella is already running. Sorry, off hand not sure which version that was, and also not sure which Stella version RetroPie is currently using. For Stella to recognize that a 2600-daptor is present, it does not matter which, or even if any, controller is plugged into the adapter. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

That was something unrelated to this - was a firmware bug. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Yes, I saw your original. I was wondering what Lamer Deluxe tm's experience was. And, yes, the new MiSTer specific scaling will amplify any jitter. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/

Do you have a desktop PC you can check the adapter for jitter in Stella? I have shipped a lot of D9's over-seas over the last 5 years, and am really puzzled that no-one ever reported this problem before. Not doubting anyone on this, I have been able to recreate this here, but seems lots of people should have encountered this and yet puzzling none of them ever reported this back. Wondering if there is still more to this. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/