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I did some more testing with the Atari released Yars' Return today and there is definitely something wrong. I tried it in my original system and it played correctly. I let it run for two hours and there was no heat on the cartridge. I then put it in the 2600+ and had the same issues as before with only half the field working and overheating in under 20 minutes. I also had an old cart from a 2005 version that is a flickering nightmare, but it worked correctly in the original unit and 2600+. I left it in the plus for about an hour and there was no heating issue. It seems like some kind of load issue that is causing constant hits on the most recent cartridge and resulting in the game chip(s) heating up.

I’m interested in the beta test.

I could only attack from the left as you described. I didn't take the time to find the manual, so thought this was normal.

The Mandalorian enjoying the new 2600+ with Baby Yoda this morning.

It doesn't load for me with the factory firmware.

I spent yesterday showing one of my oldest friends the 2600+ and playing games all day. We had a blast remembering our favorite games and trying the new stuff he had never heard of. We did run into two games that had some issues: Fall Down - We could not get the two player mode to work because the right joystick wasn't recognized as active. We played Asteroids just prior, so it was operating correctly before and after this game. Maybe we missed something simple? Yars' Return - After playing for about 20 minutes the screen suddenly went blank and the loading/failing messages started. I pulled the cartridge out to re-seat it and noticed the cartridge was hot to the touch. This seemed odd as I don't recall that happening on any other cart. I touched the slot area and it didn't seem hot, so something in the cartridge was generating it. Rather than risking melting something in the cart, we moved on.

Here is my list of what isn't working with the factory installed firmware on the 2600+. The first few items are categories than the carts are listed alphabetically. I'll try to refine this some more so that it can be more useful in identifying issues. The list is 86 lines. I mostly left off games that needed the special controllers as long as they loaded and would start, I'm hoping it is a priority to add support for the first 3 categories. Keyboard Controller Games Driving Controller Games Trackball Mode Games Light Gun Games Supercharger Games Rom Carts (A26 Maxicart, Krokodile, Cuttle Cart) Misc Peripherals (AtariVox, Quadtari, Booster Grip) 2600 Signal Tracing Cart Aardvark Astereroids Deluxe Basic Programming Boulder Dash Brik Bump ‘N’ Jump Burgertime Chetiry Circus Convoy Crack'ed (earlier version) Dare Devil Deepstone Catacomb Draconian Dragon Chase Dragon’s Descent End Epic Adventure Escape from the Castle Evil Magician II Funky Fish Galagon Gingerbread Man Gorf Arcade Grizzards James Bond 007 Jungle Fever Lady Bug Arcade Landfill Load Runner Looping Magicard Mappy Masters of the universe – The Power of He Man Megaboy Millipede Track Ball Edition Mountain King Mr. Do! (Rev C) Omega Race Panic! Rooms Pitfall II Pleiades Qyx Rally Racer RealSports Boxing Robot Tank Robotwar RubyQ Rush Hour Scramble (Champ Games) Seaweed Assault Smurfs Save the Day Sound Paddle Space Cactus Canyon Space Jockey Space Rock Spike’s Peak Star Castle Arcade Stay Frosty 2 Stella's Stocking Stratovox Super Cobra Arcade The Byte before Christmas The Gizzle Wap and the Strange Red Tree The Music Machine The Pursuit of the Pink Panther Toyshop Trouble Turbo (Coleco) Tyre Trax Unholy Venture Reloaded Video Life Video Life / Magicard (Duel Cart) Wizard of Wor (Champ Games) X3V0lux Zarkstars – Ground Force Zippy the Porcupine Zoltrix Zoo Keeper

The 10th and final round of testing as I think I've found all of my carts. Didn't work in 2600+: Crack'ed (earlier version) Asteroids Deluxe (Might be a bad cart) 2600 Signal Tracing Cart Looping Rush Hour Funky Fish Jungle Fever Double Ender (Might be bad cart) Games that worked on 2600+: Klax Ixion Solar Plexus Stratogems Deluxe Coke Wins Pharaoh's Curse Lochjaw Dark Mage Dumbo's Flying Circus Thrust+ Platinum Edition Mondo Pong Starfire 2048 2600 Drakon Croisade 2600 Diagnostic Cart 2.6 Miniature Golf HD Digital Press 2003 Holiday Cart Entity Thrust+ Special Edition Backfire Borg Wars Asteroids Brick Kick Walker Traffic Save Our Ship Joust Pong Gover's Music Maker Ikari Warriors Mind Maze Miss Piggy's Wedding Montercise Sinistar Tempest Xevious Surf's Up Fire Spinner Hole Hunter McDonalds Galaga (River Raid Ripoff) Imagic Selector IQ 180 Bionic Breakthrough Donald Duck's Speedboat Dune Garfield Planet of the Apes Robot Fight Space Treat Atlantis II Dukes of Hazzard 2 Eli's Ladder Farmyard Fun Boing 2600! Confrontation Computer Chess Clown Down Town Red vs Blue Mysterious Thief Kabobbler INV+ Skeleton+ Hey! Stop! (reskinned Keystone Kapers with Sci-Fi theme) Stunt Cycle Mario Bros Arcade Euchre Special Edition Okie Dokie Oystron Knight on the Town Double Ender

Round 9 of testing. Games that worked on original hardware but not the 2600+: Stella's Stocking Gingerbread Man A26 Maxicart V 1.0 Epic Adventure Chetiry Turbo Boulder Dash Zippy the Porcupine Star Castle Arcade Krokodile Cart Video Life / Magicard duel cart Brik Games that worked on the 2600+: Still ignoring need of special controllers, may break those out in the future since they don't fully function yet. Missile Control Treasure Below Surfer's Paradise Mission Survive Steeple Chase Mini Game Collection 2010 Duck Attack! Halo 2600 Hozer Video Games K.O. Cruiser Squish 'Em Elevators Amiss Encaved Bee-Ball Melbourne Tatty Seaweed Assault (this is the numbered copy, the other copy I have didn't work as reported earlier) Chunkout 2600 Juno First Dungeon Colony 7 Sync Go Sub Pac-Man 4k Extra Terrestrials Good Luck Charlie Brown Open Sesame! Mission 3000 Sea Monster Bobby is Going Home Space Tunnel Phantom Tank Dancing Plates Snail against Squirrel Mr. Postman Frog Pond Lady Bug Raster Fahndung Hell Driver Galactopus! Jump VCS Wall Jump Ninja Lady Bug (Coleco) Fat Albert (Love the voice in this) Qberts Qubes Save the Whales Snow White & the 7 Dwarves Crack'ed Pick Up Mr Roboto Secret Agent Berzerk Voice Enhanced (Original Release) Holey Moley Crazy Valet Boing! Vault Assault Synthcart Bachelorette Party Double Ender Burning Desire Double Ender Cathouse Blues Double Ender Philly Flasher Double Ender Lady in Wading Double Ender Beat, Em & Eat, Em Double Ender Space Duel T.U.G. Reindeer Rescue Return of the Jedi Ewok Adventure Zoo Fun Lunar Lander Adventure 2 Save Mary! Shooting Arcade Arcade Asteroids Caverns of Mars (non Champ Games version) Arcade Pong

Round 8 of testing. Games verified to work on original hardware but wouldn't load on 2600+: James Bond 007 Pleiades Another long list of games that worked: Star Wars Return of the Jedi Star Wars Jedi Arena Star Wars The Arcade Game Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Stargate Stargunner Starmaster Steeplechase Stellar Track Strawberry Shortcake Street Racer Stunt Man Sub Scan Submarine Commander Summer Games Super Baseball Super Breakout Super Cobra Super Ferrari Super Football Superman Surround G.I. Joe Cobra Strike Glacier Patrol Glib Golf Gopher Gorf Grand Prix Gravitar Gremlins Guardian Gunfight Gunslinger Gyruss H.E.R.O. Hangman Haunted House Homerun Thrifting Simulator Human Cannonball Hunt & Score Ice Hockey Indy 500 (Still needs Driving Controller support) Infiltrate INV Jammed Testcart Video Jogger Power Off! Allia Quest Merlin's Walls Pesco Alfred Challenge Combat Redux Climber 5 Holiday Qb Battlezone TC Space Treat Deluxe This Planet Sucks! Pick 'N' Pile Cat Trax Tomarc the Barbarian Single Ender Asterix - PAL Thrust+ DC Edition (Still needs Driving Controller support) Miniature Golf + Ghostbusters II Fire Birds Cosmic Town Alien's Return Aquatak Peter Penguin Mountain Man Gauntlet Double Ender Malagai Double Ender General Re-Treat The Last Ninja Video Reflex AvcsTec Challenge Bachelor Party Double Ender Gigolo Double Ender 100 game multicart Gamma-Attack N.E.R.D.S. Lasercade

That's a good idea. I was going to start with a list of what doesn't work to help encourage Atari to work on more compatibility.

Round 7 of Testing. Only two games wouldn't work on the 2600+ in this batch: Toyshop Trouble Dragon Chase The games that worked: Phantom II Medieval mayhem Four Play Immies & Aggies Telephathy (If you want to call it a game) Crazy Balloon Wolfenstein VCS Conquest of Mars Astar Color Bar Generator Mission 3000 A.D. Boom Bang Nuts Rocky & Bullwinkle Fall Down Squirrel 32 in 1 Multicart Seawolf Rainbow Invaders Poker Squares Boing 2600 2.0 Hunchy 2 2005 Mini Game Multicart Swoops! Warring Worms - The Worm Returns Go Fish! (one of my favorite homebrews for just chilling) Checkers China Syndrome Chopper Command Circus Circus Atari Coco Nuts Codebreaker Combat Combat Two Commando Commando Raid Congo Bongo Cookie Monster Munch Cosmic Ark Cosmic Commuter Cosmic Creeps Crackpots Crash Dive Cross Force Crossbow Cruise Missile Crypts of Chaos Crystal Castles Cubis Custer's Revenge Dark Chambers Dark Mage Enduro Entombed Exocet Fantastic Voyage Fast Eddie Fast Food Fathom Final Approach Fire Fighter Fire Fly Fishing Derby Flag Capture Flash Gordon Football Football - Realsports Soccer Frankenstein's Monter Freeway Frogger Frogger II Threedeep Front Line Frontline Frostbite Fun with Numbers Galaxian A Game of Concentration Gangster Alley Ghostbusters Star Fox Star Raiders (Still needs keypad support) Star Ship Star Trek Star Voyager

It loaded and was able to start. Until the keyboard controller is supported, it isn't playable.

Round 6 of testing. Although a little exhausting going through all my carts, it is fun to play some games that I purchased many years ago but never played. Games that wouldn't play on my Sears Telegames or 2600+: Super Cobra Arcade Basic Programming Games that played on original hardware but not the 2600+: Rally Racer (Boots up but won't start) Zarkstars - Ground Force Zoltrix Space Rock Spike's Peak Double Ender (Boots up but won't start) The Gizzle Wap and the Strange Red Tree Space Cactus Canyon Games that worked on the 2600+: Blinky Goes Up Zarkstars - A Space Saga Ixion Arcade 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe A-Team Acid Drop Adventure Adventure Plus Air Sea Battle Arcade Pinball Asteroids Atari Video Cube Air Raiders Airlock Atlantis Bachelor Party Backgammon Bank Heist Alfred Challenge Alien Amidar Arcade Golf Alph Beam with Ernie Allia Quest Barnstorming Baseball Basic Math Basketball Cosmic Swarm Artillery Duel Single Ender Sir Lancelot Single Ender Motocross Racer Single Ender Artillery Duel Double Ender Chuck Norris Super Kicks Double Ender Ghost Manor Double Ender Pooyan Strategy X Sir Lancelot Double Ender Robin Hood Double Ender The Texas Chainsaw massacre Scuba Diver Alligator People Flash Gordon Time Warp Laser Volley Dragon Treasure Fast Eddie Miner 2049er Vol II The Lord of the Rings Double Dragon Ram It Spiderdroid Room of Doom Threshold Mr. Do's Castle Gas Hog X-Man (the left difficulty switch is used for pause) Mines of Minos Marine Wars Drive! Auguna Panky the Panda Conjoined Assembloids 2600 Super Trash Truck A New Marauder (Cycling the power works to switch the 4 mazes) Mean Santa Depth Charge Atom Smasher S.A.C. Alert Genesis 3D Ghost Attack 3D Havoc 3D Haunted House 2 My Golf Blip Football Sticky Notes (Couldn't change messages, probably needs keyboard controllers) E.T. Book Cart

Round 5 of testing. I think I'll drop the list of carts that need cleaning, it works out to about 10% require it to work. Games that worked on original hardware but not on the 2600+: The Music Machine (Sound was bad and wouldn't start) Megaboy Bump 'N' Jump Burgertime Masters of the Universe - The Power of He Man Space Jockey (The cart didn't seem to want to go down far enough to connect and sit properly) Games I'm not sure worked properly on the 2600+: Cuttle Cart (Menu loaded, but assume it won't load games properly) Video Life (Appeared to work but not sure how to play it. Also, it kept running after the cart was pulled out and required a power cycle to reset 2600+) Magicard (Appeared to work but not sure how to input information) Sound Paddle (Appeared to work but couldn't figure out how to give inputs, maybe keyboard?) Games that worked on the 2600+: Condor Attack Halloween Off Your Rocker MotoRodeo Fatal Run Vulture Attack Malagai Quadrun Adventures of Tron Air Raiders Armor Ambush Astroblast Dark Cavern Frogs and Flies International Soccer Kook- Aid Man (OH YEAH!) Lock 'n' Chase Space Attack Star Strike Super Challenge Baseball Super Challenge Football Tron Deadly Discs Cubicolor Combat Rock Subterranea Death Trap Deadly Duck Decathlon Defender Defender II Demolition Herby Demon Attack Demons to Diamonds Desert Falcon Dig Dug Dodge 'Em Dodger Cars Dolphin Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon Double Dunk Dragonfire Dragster E.T. Earth Attack The Earth Dies Screaming Edtris 2600 Eggomania Elevator Action Elk Attack Encounter at L-5 Soccer Solar Fox Solar Storm Solaris Sorcerer's Apprentice Sorcerer Soundx Space Cavern SpaceChase Space Combat Space Invaders Space Shuttle Space War Spacemaster X-7 Speedway II (one of the carts I bought with my system in 1977) Spelling Spider-Man Spider Fighter Spitfire Attack Springer Sprintmaster (wish this would get a release using the driving controller, 4 player could be achieved with the Quadtari) Spy Hunter Squeeze Box SSSnake Stampede

Thanks, it's definitely the bad board.

Round 4 of testing. There will be a few duplicates that show up as my organization is not the best at the moment and I have various companies like Zellers and Brazilian carts. Games that worked on original hardware but not the 2600+: Lady Bug Arcade Escape from the Castle Circus Convoy (supposed to be fixed in next update) Unholy Mr. Do! (Is there a way to tell if it is Rev C without breaking the case open?) Seaweed Assault Mountain King Games that worked in 2600+ after cleaning: Carnival Challenge Cosmic Corridor Millipede (This one struggled and took a long time to load) Mouse Trap Games that worked on the 2600+ Berzerk Bermuda Triangle Big Bird's Egg Catch Black Jack Blueprint Bowling Boxing Brain Games Breakaway IV Breakout Bridge Buck Rogers - Planet of Zoom Bugs Bugs Bunny California Games Cannon Man Canyon Bomber Capture Casino Cathouse Blues Double Ender Philly Flasher Double Ender Centipede Championship Soccer Chase Checkers Chuck Wagon Sorcerer Vault Assault Tournament Edition Malagai Mental Kombat Cosmic Commuter Up n' Down Skeleton Euchre Special Edition Quick Step Space Invaders Arcade Asteroids DC+ Busy Police Thunderground Pac-Man Arcade Air Lock Radar Space Treat Marauder Doggone It! Hugohunt Tower of Rubble Soul of the Beast Mr. Yo-Yo Game of the Bear Hellway Memory Match Megamania Merlin's Walls Midnight Magic Miner 2049er Minesweeper Miniature Golf Missile Command Mogul Maniac Mondo Pong Montezuma's Revenge Moon Patrol Moonsweeper Ms. Pac Man Mystery Science Theater 2600 Name this Game Nexar Night Driver No Escape! NWGCE Invaders Ocean City Defender Red Sea Crossing Princess Rescue Endless Snow

Here's what it looks like on my 2600+

Two quick updates: I indicated that the "End" Homebrew worked on the 2600+, but it actually does not. I didn't mark it properly in my notes. After more cleaning and about 20 tries, I finally got the Revenge of the Beefsteak Tomatoes working. It needed to be pushed all the way to the right for it to be read correctly.

Round 3 of testing. No special controllers tested like driving, keypad, trackball, or quadtari's since they reportedly don't work yet. There was one game that wouldn't work on any system, which kind of gutted me, since it was part of my original collection: Sky Jinks (If I don't have a duplicate somewhere, I'll need to replace this) Games that worked on original hardware but not the 2600+: Qyx Grizzards Gorf Arcade RubyQ Scramble (Champ Games) Panic! Rooms Dare Devil Robot Tank (Rolling Screen) Smurfs Save the Day Omega Race Pitfall II Stratovox Draconian Mappy Zoo Keeper Venture Reloaded (kind of loads, but won't start and emits a high pitched noise) Deepstone Catacomb Games that worked on 2600+ after cleaning: Sea Hawk (Panda) Sky Skipper Sneak 'n Peek Oink! Picnic Games that worked: Oozy the Goo - Slime Quest Raptor Blocks Vroom! L.E.M. End Robot City Ninjish Guy in a low res world Roc 'N Rope Rubik's Cube SCSIcide Sea Battle Sea Hawk (Froggo) Sea Hunt Seaquest Secret Quest Sentinel Shark Attack Shootin' Gallery Shuttle Orbiter Skate Boardin' Skeet Shoot Skiing Sky Diver Slot Machine Slot Racers Slots Smurf Rescue in Garamol's Castle Snoopy's Red Barron Okie Dokie Oscar's Trash Race Othello Outer Space Outlaw Oystron Pac-Man A Better Pac-Man Pele's Soccer Pesco Pete Rose Baseball Phoenix Piece O' Cake Pigs in Space Pinball Pitfall! Planet Patrol Plaque Attack Poker Plus Polaris Pole Position Pong Sports Ralph Lauren Polo Aquaventure Saboteur Yars' Return Haunted House - Light Up Edition (I should have bought all of these when I had the chance) Crystal Castles - Light Up Edition Adventure - Light Up Edition Missile Command - Light Up Edition Orbital War Space Game Dungeon II - Solstice Cannonhead Clash Avalanche (at least one Champ Games cart works currently)

I'll give it another shot, I was surprised when it wouldn't work.

Day two of testing. I should have mentioned in the first post that all games are NTSC unless indicated otherwise. Games that didn't work on the 2600+, but did on original hardware: Dragon's Descent (Screen was Garbled) Wizard of Wor (Champ Games) Tyre Trax Galagon Aardvark (Screen was Garbled) RS Boxing Revenge of the Beefsteak Tomatoes Games that kind of worked but seemed to have issues on 2600+: Landfill - Seemed to play fine, but did not hear any sounds X3V0lux - The label indicated it worked with joysticks or paddles but neither option would work Zaxxon - The sound had a lot of static. Not sure if this is the way it was originally as my Telegames unit had the same sound Games that required cleaning to work on the 2600+: Riddle of the Sphinx Tutankham Word Zapper Games that worked but were finicky on how to insert the cart on both units. The only method that worked was to gently press in on the right side and then push the cart down from right to left. Pressure Cooker Private Eye Games that worked. Again I didn't test the trackball mode since it currently doesn't work. Missile Command TB Reactor TB Nexar TB Missile Control TB Space Master X-7 TB Monster Ball The Shaman Goblin Chaser Alien Adventures Failboat Gyvolver Amoeba Jump Popeye Porky's Pressure Gauge Q-bert Qb Quest Quick Step Race (Didn't test driving controllers as I think they currently don't work on the 2600+) Racquetball Radar Lock Raft Rider Raiders of the Lost Ark Rampage Reactor RealSports Baseball RealSports Football RealSports Soccer RealSports Tennis RealSports Volleyball (If they do a compilation of these games, should update the rules to the current ones) River Raid River Raid II Road Runner Ms. Galactopus Bomb on Pixel City Balloon Trip Centipede TB Colony 7 TB Sheep it Up Plaque Attack TB Three-5 Game Panic Immortal Edition Dee Snider's Strangeland Space Chase - Monogrammed Trick Shot Tunnel Runner Turmoil Vanguard Venture Venture II Video Checkers Video Chess Video Olympics Video Pinball Video Simon Video Time Machine Wabbit Wall Ball Warlords Warplock Warring Worms Winter Games Wizard of Wor (remember to use the right joystick) Worm War I Xenophobe Yahtzee Yars' Revenge

Received my pre-order from Atari.com yesterday. I love it so far and hope the firmware updates come soon. I pulled out a bunch of carts today and started testing. I had a Sears Telegames 6 switcher also set up to test any carts that didn't work on the 2600+. I don't have a 7800 out at the moment and since they are homebrews I didn't expect them to work with the factory firmware. I'm using a OLED television with any filtering turned off to reduce possible lag. 7800 games I tried that didn't work: KC Munchkin Astro Blaster Bob Decrescenzo Collection There were 2 games that wouldn't work on the 2600+ or the Original unit. I vaguely remember this might be an issue with my Telegames model, so need to find a different unit to test these on. The Byte before Christmas Stay Frosty 2 Games that did not work on the 2600+ but did on original hardware, I think most of these are already known. Robotwar Load Runner Evil Magician II Millipede Track Ball (the garbled screen shot is below) (TB not tested as known to not work currently) The Pursuit of the Pink Panther Games that required cleaning to work on both units: King Kong Stone Age Games that worked on original hardware but needed cleaning to work on the 2600+ Laser Volley Lost Luggage H.E.R.O. (didn't see any issues that others have reported) Scuba Diver Atlantis - Cromax Imagic (Brazilian multi cart) Pac-Man / River Raid / Pitfall / Space Invaders Games that worked: 10 in 1 cartridge (I also tested these new carts on the Telegames with the new controllers, and they all worked) 4 in 1 paddle games Berzerk Enhanced (I still can't figure out what the robot says when I die?) Mr. Run and Jump A roach in Space Hunger Shark Joust Journey Escape (Had the distorted sound that others have reported) Jr Pac Man Jungle Hunt Kaboom! Kabul! Kamikaze Saucers Kangaroo Karate (This one was very finicky on how the cart had to be seated) Keystone Kapers Krull Kung-Fu Master Kung Fu Superkicks Laser Blast Laser Gates London Blitz M.A.D. Mash Mario Bros Master Builder Math Gran Prix Maze Maze Craze Maze Mania Rocket Pod Star Wars Arcade Track Ball Edition (TB not tested as known to not work currently) Flappy Omincron Pinata Tank Brigade Worm War I Galaxian Arcade Atari Video Cube Freeway Pengo Dare Diver Math Dishaster Jawbraker Wall Ball Dice Puzzle Marble Craze Laser Gates Name this Game Star Wars the Arcade Game Crazy Climber BMX Air Master Mr. Do! Bobby is going home Road Duel This somewhat random selection of games comes out to a compatibility ratio of 90% on the 2600 side. I'll keep plugging away

Pre-Order from Atari.com

I normally avoid collectors editions, but one of the early suggestions of the SwordQuest games made me think about what would it take to get me to buy: 1. My estimate of retail price at $100 -$150, depending on what is included 2. All 4 games on a dip switch cart like the paddle games one 3. Include all 4 manuals and all 4 comic books (If Airworld doesn't have these yet, they should be created) 4. Work with Boss Fight Studios using their Vitruvian H.A.C.K.S. 1/18 system to make Torr and Tarra action figures. The Earthworld outfits are probably the best for this package. There are figures like the Tarzan ones or Fantasy or Greek that could be used for the base. 5. Also have Boss Fight create the 5 prizes in 1/18 scale for the figures to play with. This way all of us get to pretend that we won.