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Looks like SONY was reading this thread and decided to design the PS5 as one big Taco

Saw this posted today and immediately thought of this thread Taco's ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNJR_3DWnw

They are starting to go back to work. I know GPD started back at work today

Err, Wonder are the mob that insinuated they would make a gaming phone, that morphed over the years to a game subscription service like Ouya trialed at one point. I had been part of Wonders Alpha program and on their forum. After many year of delivering nothing and being hammered by all their community , they came up with that gaming OS service. By then the whole community had deserted them. I think they even shut down their forum. They tried to get Phone companies to pick up the OS and put on their phones. But no one touched it. It was kind of pointless IMO Now Atari has taken it up - Lol BTW, Wonder started with a $14Million investment several years ago. Some of the notable investors were: Nolan Bushnell and Shakira

In regards to developing a pcb which uses an AMD embedded chip. I can't say too much about it, but let's just say everyone that has tried to do it , has ended up pulling their hair out. According to one CEO I spoke to , who is developing an AMD Embedded product. AMD provide almost zero support for their embedded chips. And also basically zero reference designs. And their driver support for it is poor to boot And there are issues that everyone who has developed using embedded, have run into. In fact, in regards to the well respected company I'm talking about (but cannot name), they have worked on it for a solid year now, and there pcb still has issues. Expect dual channel issues and other memory issues. Power management may also be an issue. But they are lucky it's not battery powered. The story is the same with everyone that has touched it. So don't expect them to debug that pcb in a hurry

Oh dear. The Atari VCS Architect - Rob Wyatt has quit . He claims his company had not been paid in 6 months Also, when Feargal Mac sued Atari, he managed to get $82K from them Here is a deep dive about it all The Register just published https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/08/atari_architect_quits/

Don't take this wrong way, I'm as skeptical of Atari as the next guy, but the RAM on the flip side for something using an embedded AMD APU is not unusual at all. In fact other products that plan to use an AMD embedded APU have shown their motherboards with the same arrangement.

About Antstream Is it me, or is it bizarre that they are streaming retro games that would download in about 10 seconds tops. Retro games that are also the most sensitive to latency(edited) Makes no sense to me

Also announced on Toms Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-r1000-embedded-soc-gaming,39082.html " As part of today's release, AMD announced the Atari VCS uses the new AMD R1000 embedded processors."

Looks like the Atari VCS will use one of the new AMD embedded chips https://liliputing.com/2019/04/amd-ryzen-embedded-r1000-line-of-14nm-dual-core-chips.html "So what kind of devices can we expect to use AMD’s new cheaper, lower-performance R1000 series chips? Well one device that’s already been announced is the Atari VCS retro game console/PC. Atari revealed last month that it would be using an unnamed AMD Ryzen chip. Now we know it’ll be a Ryzen R1000 processor."

Did Atari reveal the exact chip they will use now? Sounds like it will be the AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1202B Wouldn't surpise me since the Smach Z uses the V1605B. Both Smach and Atari both have in common AMD as their chip partner

Does anyone know who came up with the design of the Atari Box console and controller (now Atair VCS) , was it Feargal's company or Atari? I wonder if the dispute is over who owns the patent / copyright on the designs

@Hannacek They are lengthy, but to sum it up . In the new terms there are more things about protecting Indiegogo themselves from being sued. The other thing to note is that IGG have updated their Terms of Service a number of times. So I'm not sure what the actual Terms were at the time of the Gameband campaign

Indiegogo changed there Terms of Service on May 25th this year. Campaigns like the Atari Gameband still fall under the old Terms of Service. The Ataribox(VCS) campaign started literally a few days after the new Terms of Service where introduced ie it started May 31st just 6 days after the Terms of Service changed - Coincidence ? So the Atari VCS campaign is under the new Terms of Service.

It's a tricky one. I guess the best option for the Gameband backers would be to get a lawyer to take on a class action case on a no win no pay basis. But since they said the money is gone, that's going to be very hard to get a lawyer that would do that. They would need some evidence that the Gameband team either lied about there being no money, or there was evidence of fraud so they could to go after the Gameband CEO personnaly to retrieve cash. The situation sucks. This reminds me of the Peachy printer campaign where they flat out came out and said that one of the team members stole a huge chunk of backers money - $320K. And yet nothing happened. At least not to date and it's been years.

So did the Gameband team tell backers what all the money was spent on. If not , they have broken Kickstarters Terms of Service https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/sept2014 Quote, Choice bits bolded: If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if: they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned; they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers; they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised; they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form. The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers.

That's really werid , the IGG campaign says they got zero backers there.. It also only lists the funds they raised on another platform ( ie the $326K raised on Kickstarter) Yet there is campaign updates on the IGG campaign. Weird

I must be missing something. Why did they say in that last Gameband update that $500K was sunk. Didn't the Kickstarter only raise $326K?

Sounds like he is claiming that he went to atari with the Ataribox idea, then after a while working on it, Atari dumped him and kept the idea without paying him anything I must admit , the story does line up to what we overserved at the time if true.

So whats the legal back and forth between Fergal Mac and Atari about ?

I have a GPD WIN 2, it's awesome. They basically stuffed a M3 laptop into a handheld - thus the price. And the main storage is a user replaceable M.2 2242 SSD, the uSD slot is secondary storage. You'd be surprised at the PC games it can play pretty well And I wouldn't buy it from Amazon at that price, generally it sells for $700 for the 128GB model, still steep, but they did cram a lot into it. There is also a 256GB SSD model coming soon

As expected, the campaign went straight into "In Demand" when the clock ended. This means they are taking pre-orders for as long as they like.

I wonder if they will use Indiegogo's In Demand option to offer the Atari VCS after the campaign ends. A lot of campaigns do it these days

A lot of people suspect they will be using the AMD 9700E, it fits the bill. Gaming performance for the 9700E looks half decent:

Campaign is still frozen, no new orders or funds have been registered in the last 10 minutes