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I think you mean "it's not like these people refuse to accept the Jaguar was a commercial failure" Unless you're starting to believe one of these what if scenarios have come true

Personally the exclusive titles are one of the reasons I like the Jaguar. Just because a good number of games on a platform may be available on others doesn't mean you can't still appreciate the exclusives it does have like: Alien VS Predator, Zero 5, Defender 2000, Battlemorph, Super Burnout, Missile Command 3D, and Iron Soldier. Tempest 2000 is also arguably best on the Jaguar. Would probably recommend a couple other retro platforms before the Jaguar, but if your collection can accommodate it, I'd say it's worth checking out.

Since there seem to be more people arguing FOR the bubble than against it I'll add some thoughts against it And ftr my perception is more aligned with Nuclear Pacman's, as I've seen people complain for years all the while values have gone up. And I started buying when prices were low and kept buying as they rose because i like playing the games and owning the originals. I have to wonder how much of the complaining about current prices is attributable to people who were early to retro gaming, saw prices fall and missed opportunities, and then saw them steadily rise to what they are today. At least in my case, I've been retro gaming long enough to feel a little sting when I pay today's prices for something I could've gotten for much less back then. But had I just started today, it'd be the expectation and maybe I wouldn't feel as apprehensive. Of course, you don't actually lose anything by playing a free ROM. So logically it'd work the other way around and people would say "that free ROM was nice, I think I'd like to pay $300 for the game." I think the most interesting question in this thread is why do people collect? Why do they like to have original physical games on their original platform? Even ones they don't even play? Especially when they exist as ROMs or are far cheaper on a digital platform like XBLA or Wiiware. That would explain if an alternative could ever quite eliminate the interest in the originals.

We have plans to do another print, most likely this year, just wrapping up some other stuff first (website still on schedule to go back online this month, with some new Jaguar and Lynx features and at least one new release). As Gaztee said, the game sold really slowly though, so it wasn't top on our list. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "did that code disappear" though? What is the code necessary for? While it'd be interesting to have available I doubt it'd be of much use to anyone. I don't know if anyone else has it (I read Doug and Steve may have possibly had copies), but one of our dev computers had what looks to be the hoverstrike dev environment that we'd probably share if it isn't already out and if anyone cares... I think that'd be more interesting personally.

thanks! Although that's probably not what a lot of people wanted to hear, it's good to know.

You can also get standard black shells from B&C Computervisions. PLASTIC CASES FOR GAME BOARDSJAGSHE Jaguar Empty Cartridge case/shell 4.00 PullsJAGSHE1 Jaguar 10 each Cartridge case/shell 30.00 PullsJAGSHE4 Jaguar 40 each Cartridge case/shell 110.00 PullsJAGSHE0 Jaguar 100 each Cartridge case/shell 250.00 Pull

I see, I was under the impression from this thread that the version that is floating around could be repaired to the complete version, based on Cyranoj's response. I guess it's worth asking again then, if the one that circulating can be fixed to be complete (without resources from neo's build). Like I said, never really bothered to try and circumvent the bug to see how much content is on the disc, can only go by what JaguarBrett and you have to say about it. Perhaps worth a closer look just to make notes for people who are interested.

Yeah, the good news is that pretty much everybody who wants to play the Jaguar version has a copy by now - the same couldn't be said years ago before they started popping up on ebay then the iso got hosted various places. That prevented the game from being "lost." And as mentioned, the fixed version is just that - a fix of the buggy version that's floating around. So nothing is really being lost, if anything it's good to know that the game can be fixed. I don't really like the game so I've never tried to circumvent the glitch on the JaguarCD version (Gunstar posted a workaround a long time ago). That's cool to know the whole game can be completed with the buggy version though.

The build Clint posted may not be of the same one that DML is known to have. So It's nice for comparison if you're somebody who's interested in the game. Clint's video is of a build that Carl bought on flashcart but was DOA.

I personally find owning originals attractive for their historical relevance. They are an example of a retail product from a specific time. And as gaming tech has evolved so much, they represent an unique look into a specific period of gaming history that cannot be 100% replicated due to the limitations and cultural influences at the time. The above is why I collect and perhaps one of the reasons why other people collect. But, that doesn't really explain homebrew game prices getting so far out of control. Frog Feast carts are a good example. The rarity is artificial, it lacks the substance, gameplay, or historical relevance of a retail game. And yet it'd sell for much more than most retail releases. To an extent I think homebrew prices are a mix of speculation and the increase in genuine interest in collecting mixing to form a nasty combination. But perhaps because I only buy the homebrews I like because they don't satisfy my criteria for collecting, I just don't get it. Generally I think people have a compulsion to collect, just at varying degrees. People I know collect all sorts of stuff, sports memorabilia, porcelain dolls, paintings, cards.etc all of which I personally consider trash

the poker game we released (the general release after the Jagfest X release) was on a black pcb. We used a vinyl label and I have to say it'd be nice if vinyl were cheaper because those freyed/white cut edges on the labels don't look that nice against the black carts. Sadly if we do any more games on black PCB we'll probably use laserjet sticker sheets too. some of our future releases will probably be black pcbs too (i personally like the color for lynx pcb's!).

Fat Bobby isn't that rare, afik you can still order it from the publisher (although I don't know what they mean by "pre-order," in terms of how quickly they get them to you after you order them). It's just expensive like some of those other late telegames releases because Atari had dropped support for the Lynx when they were published so the sales volume was less than the retail lynx games and Telegames never really had a habit of marking down their inventory (more of the opposite, today they charge double in some cases).

I have tried the versions from your second link (20151002). The key mapping seems a little bugged out. Profiles that I delete re-appear after I close and re-open the config pane. None of the configurations that I make seem to take effect. The default configuration doesn't work because only like 3 keys are actually responsive. When I create a new profile and choose it then exit the config screen, it is no longer selected when I re-open the config screen. I've had similar issues and gotten it working before. But recently re-installed it to take some screen grabs and the same thing happened this time didn't feel like figuring it out :/ The old versions before it was picked back up work fine. Maybe it's a computer hardware thing or something.

I personally use it only for frame grabs. I have not found it to be all that great for playing games either. I think somebody around here is still working on it, maybe he can explain. I had it working once but wiped my computer and can't be bothered to figure it out again. I just used an older version for my purposes. All I can say is that it is possible

Once in the configure screen the path goes here: You can find the path to your software folder (in windows) by right clicking the folder and selecting properties Then copy the location and paste it into the virtual jaguar configure screen make sure to add the software folder in the path (put \software at the end)

select Jaguar in the menu bar, then configure. it should allow you to set the path for where you place the games.

Perhaps because Time Warner Interactive published Primal Rage and Atari published Baldies. Also, IF Wikipedia is accurate, that would make it the last version released on home consoles of the time in North America. Time Warner probably thought (1) Jaguar CD sales would be dismal due to the lack of traction the Jaguar got, and (2) People would be more inclined to buy it on another platform / already bought it on another platform. SNES August 25, 1995 Genesis August 25, 1995 3DO November 14, 1995 32X November 14, 1995 Playstation November 14, 1995 Saturn November 14, 1995 Jaguar December 1995

To the benefit of homebrew devs, the prices are attracting additional attention from speculators and people who wouldn't other wise buy the games, so they are able to sell more copies of their work (or price them higher, or sell super-limited versions, or whatever). It'll be interesting to see whether people lose interest in collecting for older systems. I personally think carts and systems will cease to function first though Especially now that gaming continues to become more popular and more a part of peoples lives.

i have not posted an update for awhile because I didn't want to keep announcing dates and then delaying them. Right now we are hoping around the end of April, as that is the current approximate of when the PCB's will be ready. I think I mentioned in another thread while back, our host switch servers and that resulted in the old site getting erased. Since I was in the middle of an update anyway I didn't just re-upload our old site. Assuming we still have the domain (I'm pretty sure we do) it should be back up sometime during April with some new Lynx features.

There was a Towers II for Windows 95 on CD. But no Jaguar CD version has been released.

There is a McDonalds around my house that still has a CDi with the Roller Controller playing the Wacky World of Miniature Golf! I wonder if anybody ever questioned whether or not its time to retire the system

yes! I know what you mean about the imprecise feeling. With some games that have the calibration feature sometimes I find myself aiming to the far edge of the screen to get it to calibrate a shot to the center properly! But I've also found where you position the sensor makes a big difference for games without the calibration feature, although sometimes that may be in a crappy spot (like the top of the TV). There's never been a game that I couldn't get working well with the cdi gun (besides a few that that aren't intended for use with it) but as you mention there are a few issues with some games that could've been ironed out.

I thought the remote was pretty functional considering its primary use was for CDs and VCDs, but was also good for "casual" games like Zenith. The gaming controller probably could've used an extra button or two - as Travis mentioned it really needed a pause button. It's actually two distinct buttons with the third being button one and two pressed simultaneously. If the CDi attracted a lot more interest from developers wishing to port games off popular systems like the Genesis/SNES I think it would've been a bigger problem. And while the snes-style one is nice the other feels cheap and almost like it'll break on you (imo, at least). The light gun is really cool though, as it uses a sensor so it works with LCD / Plasma TV's. In additional to gun games it also works well with adventure games. Wish other light gun games of the saturn / psx generation used that tech.

Games I'd recommend (outside of the ports) would be: Some fun, well polished game that have aged well (for retro games at least!) Super Burnout (since you already have it) Iron Soldier Tempest 2000 Battlemorph (Jaguar CD) If you have the patience to deal with the learning curve for a unique experience: Zero 5 Defender 2000 Good additions to the library Missile Command 3D- One of the best looking Jaguar games, above average game play Alien VS Predator- Great game for its time, although the genre has evolved a lot (plus much of the game looks the same due to lack of texture variety) Battlesphere Gold- Well polished space shooter with several different modes of play

Personally I hate Knuckles Chaotix (and contest the videos assertion that it is acclaimed ), would've rather seen Tempo in there. As a "playful comparison" I think it does a nice job, but probably didn't need to be scored as the video itself indicates additional comparisons might tip the scales either direction. To be fair, the 32x was an expansion. So hopefully if you have a 32x you're not ignoring the genesis library. Perhaps it did not live up to expectations but adding it to your system still gives you the opportunity to play some fantastic games that are a graphical leap above the genesis. Keeping in mind, the 32x launched for considerably less than the price other next gen consoles launched at (Jaguar, Saturn, PSX) and could well be seen as a way for Sega to provide a one-time fee for an enhancement chip (like the one in the $100 virtua racing) so that the per game price would be cheaper overall. Judging them solely as unique gaming systems, I agree. There are much better systems out there. The 32X and the Jaguar have their own unique character and offer some unique exclusive games, but certainly not a library that you'd choose over a system like the PSX / N64/ Saturn