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Posts posted by dashv
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As a collector/enthusiast/preservationist I agree with JetmanUK.
So many experiences are being lost to time. The reason some of these games hit so hard at the time and stuck with us isn’t always due to pure nostalgia.
Sometimes there was nuance and ingenuity that provided a novel experience.
ROMs can be loaded, the game can boot, but those don’t always lead to a recreation of the original overall experience.
I have OG Atari’s and a Retron 77. But I really appreciate and feel that the Atari 2600+ is the closest we’ve come so far to bringing back the original experience on new hardware that looks and feels like the original.
It’s really darn close. Cheats, Saves, Pause would all be welcome enhancements.
But sincere thank you for what we’ve got so far.
I wish Atari would someday partner with Analogue.
An Analogue Atari that played 2600, 7800, and 5200 and supported all the peripherals would be absolutely wild.
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19 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said:
Driving Controller and Video Touch Pad incompatibility are frequently brought up. Its interesting to me as they are just electrical messages being sent to the machine and if the CX40 Joystick and CX30 Paddles work then whats up with that?
I don’t know if this helps, but a few weeks ago I was searching up and down for details on how the touchpad worked.
I found nothing. So I asked Bing AI and it told me this:
The Atari keypad worked by using a matrix of four rows and four columns of wires, each connected to a different pin on the controller port. Each key on the keypad was a switch that connected one row and one column when pressed. The Atari console could scan the keypad by sending signals to the rows and reading the columns, or vice versa. For example, if the Atari sent a high signal to the first row and read a high signal on the third column, it would know that the key labeled "3" was pressed. The Atari could also use the potentiometer lines to read the keypad, by using pull-up resistors and measuring the voltage drop across the switches. This way, the Atari could detect multiple key presses at the same time.
Another thing that would be cool to have would be Cheetah code support. It’s actually built in to Stella but might be tricky to implement.
That said, keypad support would do wonders for opening up accessibility and adding easy to access new features like Cheats, save/restore states, etc.
I imagine the switches and one button joystick make adding stuff like that a bear to access.
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Does anyone know if Stella's Stocking works on the 2600+ I’m thinking of buying it cause I want to play Stay Frosty.
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It just updated and now just says “Scheduled Delivery Date: not available”
Ah, well. A Steam Deck weekend it is.
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46 minutes ago, Dbug said:
I'm a software developer myself, I understand the time it takes to get updates done, tested, validated, etc... obviously ASAP is good, but better late than broken
Speaking of… not sure my 2600+ is arriving today after all. The tracking hasn’t been updated since Tuesday.
Thats gotta be some wild weather!
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Got an update on my shipping from FedEx.
Looks like mine went out late then encountered bad weather delays so it’s supposed to arrive on Friday.
Hopefully that means I’ll get to play a bit this weekend before going back to work.
Oddly, my order details on the Atari page no longer link to the fedex tracking. I had to dig up the email from last week.
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Mine has said fedex label printed since the 16th but I suspect I too will join the waiting for Dec brotherhood.
Was hoping to play over Thanksgiving holiday, but oh well.
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Here’s hoping there is a breakthrough with the touchpad. Star Raiders is calling my name. Spent so much time on that as a kid.
Really psyched to see the UK gamepad on deck for release!!! I’ve debated importing a pair for a long while.
I have only been lurking through half of this thread so maybe I missed it. But how healthy is the relationship between the Atari+ project and the emulator authors whose work is being leveraged?
Love seeing all the behind the scenes stuff!
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Don’t get me wrong. I’ll jailbreak as soon as it’s available. But I already feel I got what was advertised.
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14 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said:
Is the Dock supposed to not save your video settings or is there a save thing that I am missing somewhere?
I wonder the same. I’d like to play on my tv with the filters and frame blending enabled but I don’t know how to get into the menu while docked.
15 hours ago, blzmarcel said:I'm not yet very keen on these .pocket files, but it'll be far nicer to have a rom loader to load regular rom images proper. I really do not believe that the world needs yet another proprietary / device specific rom format.
I have been having a lot of fun with GB Studio. I understand why analog is being careful to try to cater to home brew but also avoid the CND hammer of Nintendo.
there will eventually be a jailbreak. But there will always be folks buying things for the potential vs the advertised features.
I feel the advertised features work just fine. It’s wishlist items that leave some folks disappointed.
I have tons of original carts. So I’m happy enough. Though I hope the Lynx and TG 16 adapters release soon.
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This tab has and will forever remain open in my iPhone safari browser until the full game is released.
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Woooooooo. Going to be watching my mailbox!

Can’t wait to play some Chuck Norris Superkicks!
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What are ya’ll doing to get nice consistent scanlines? Mine are double width every other line on my NT Noir, SG, and NT.
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11 hours ago, adamchevy said:
I get your sarcasm but I am surprised nonetheless given the fact that this is FPGA and not a pc running an emulator. Where it loads the binary data from shouldn’t be impacted like this I would think. I wonder if the Mister has this problem on occasion. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that it does the same thing. I’m not sure how fast the data was transferred on an original NES through the 72pin connector but it can’t be faster than 2 MB/s.
I’ll go through Super Mario 3 again soon and pinpoint the spots where the slow down is occurring. It was very noticeable to me and a friend that I had over playing.
Like other folks have said, sometimes folks forget the original NES often had trouble with flicker and slow down in even super popular AAA titles.
Some emulators and fpga implementations allow you to "overclock" the emulators CPU and remove sprite limitations to reduce or even eliminate that slowdown. But that's not technically true to the real consoles behavior from back in the day.The NT's are generally defaulted to playing at the standard speeds, timing, and sprite limitations (though you can tweak some of that in the advanced options).
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5 hours ago, Atariboy said:
Fair enough.
Switching gears, does anyone know if an 8BitDo M30 2.4g controller can be paired to an 8BitDo TG16 Mini 2.4g USB receiver? I'm curious if I could pair the two for use on my Sega Genesis Mini, but can't seem to sync it up.
I know it's not actually an Analogue question, but since 8BitDo is essentially the official controller line for Analogue products, we obviously discuss 8BitDo regularly in here.
I remember reading on the forums at 8bitdo that the receivers are designed for the specific product. So generally you cannot mix and match them. ? super bummer.
update on Parprium.
It does indeed play correctly now and it looks and sounds great!
I am a very happy camper!
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Just now, Atariboy said:
His reception is due solely to how he's chosen to handle himself here with his interactions with other members. Not because he's dared to point out faults with existing Analogue products.
Many of us have regularly pointed out areas that we've felt were lacking, games that were broken, extra features we'd like to see implemented, etc. But we've done so without an attitude, without aggression towards other members, etc.
I've seen several times in this thread folks told to go use a different product if it works better for them or makes them happier than the NT. I'm just saying not everyone saying those things is trying to bash the product or cause contention. Some genuinely want to see the product improve.
Can and should folks use decency and respect as they share their thoughts and experiences? Absolutely.
Did I applaud his earlier attitude? No.
He was chastised for it and from what I have seen in this thread he's dialed it back. Sticking to facts and objective comparisons.-
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On 3/2/2021 at 11:16 AM, vanfanel said:
Hi,
I had a lengthy conversation with Kevtris about this yesterday on Discord.
I know folks have been giving you crap on here. But thanks for getting the word out there about ways the NT products can be improved.
Also, thank you Kevtris for listening to community feedback and making improvements! I’ll be giving Parprium a try on the newest firmware today!
I’m an engineer and something really agitating me is that some folks refuse to hear or accept any kind of criticism or improvement suggestions.
While it’s true no one has infinite time or money and it’s also true that sometimes the payoff is not worth the effort. It’s just as true that sometimes we as consumers end up with abandoned and inferior products simply because we didn’t have the time or desire to point out issues and ask for better.
I’m very happy with the full screen pixel effect in the new software. ? It doesn’t matter to me if the person who drove the conversation stuck around to use it. ?
It’s going to be awesome if Paprium is fully working now. I literally held back my YouTube compatibility video when I saw it broken in the previous firmwares because I filed a bug with Analog and had faith in Kevtris that he wouldn’t let it go.
Criticism doesn’t always equal an attack or insult. It just means there are areas that could potentially be improved. If we plug our ears to it we block potential for understanding, progress, and improvement.
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On 1/29/2021 at 3:59 PM, Reaperman said:
Soooo. I hope I've properly encoded this question:
Preorders are open for a very expensive MVS flashcart, but I also feel Analogue may have me covered in that area. It's almost 'more weird' that Analogue hasn't gone back to Neo Geo already, that'd be fair to say, right?
I'm reminded of a certain pricey lynx screen upgrade I preordered shortly before the pocket announcement
I've had my fun with it, but it was still a D'oh! moment.
I currently own a NEO SD MVS (which is what I assume you are talking about).
I also have a single slot jamma mvs arcade board with a supergun to HDMI. And I have two Neo Geo arcade sticks with competition buttons and stick custom installed.
It’s certainly not the cheapest route to go to just scratch the itch.
But if you want to plug the jamma board into a cabinet and play on a real arcade machine, I personally feel it’s worth it and a lot cheaper than getting a 2 or 4 slot MVS board and then buying individual carts.
I’m not going to plug my Analog consoles into my arcade cabinet. But I wouldn’t mind being able to load up roms on it from a jailbreak core if one ever became available.
I could be completely wrong, but I feel like the market for NEO GEO may be so small that the work required to provide support for it on Analog Consoles may just not be there or we may have to wait a crazy long time.
Then again we are getting a TG16 so... take with a grain of salt.
If mister can support it and you are cool with that, I say go with what works for you.
I feel like the SD cart (especially the MVS one) is aimed at folks determined to have a hardware cab or an arcade board consolized with a supergun.
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Almost there. I accepted the invite. Now I can see the channel and I can load the link given earlier but the analogue-mega-sg server shows a padlock icon and says it can't load the messages.

UPDATE:
Hah. Figured it out by starting in the readme server.
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29 minutes ago, XtraSmiley said:
Yeah, I clearly have no idea what I am doing! I blame it on old man brain. What happened to BBS'? You young kids and your discord this and braided that...
Hahaha. That's okay. I am 42 but feel like I am 99 sometimes. Getting harder to keep up with technology.
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8 hours ago, XtraSmiley said:
I don't appear have access to the above discussion channel and the second link is just for discord itself.
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12 hours ago, XtraSmiley said:
On Discord I think they are trying to get Kevtris a copy (or he's getting it himself) to look at.
Where on Discord? I may be able to loan him mine.

Atari 2600+ Beta Update 1.1
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Posted · Edited by dashv
Fixed typo.
Open to help kick the tires.
I have over 100 2600 games and about a dozen 7800 games. All NTSC. Including variants of quite a few.
I also have a few working 2600 consoles and a working 7800.
Updating hardware/firmware via a windows pc is not a problem for me. 🙂
Fun Fact: I started and maintained the unofficial Retron 5 compatibility list back in the day.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oDQByg6OWl6eFwzqLdJm18tDjCZ2up1b2DbOdJyRxFc/edit