[Atari800 4.1.0]

FYI, I've read a bit more information and understood that there's this software: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/259038-atarisid-vi/

 

If this software works properly on real Atari 800 hardware but fails on the Atari800 emulator without the RMW patch, then that's exactly what I needed to know in order to accept the patch.

[Atari800 4.1.0]

Hi all,

 

first of all: Atari800's home has been on GitHub since 2017-08-03 as can be seen for example here:

https://atari800.github.io/news.html

 

or here:

https://atari800.sf.net/

 

or here:

https://atari800.github.io/

 

Baktra posted a wrong link to the release, that's a pity. All releases on GitHub are naturally here:

https://github.com/atari800/atari800/releases

 

Then, if a patch was submitted but not committed then there's a reason for it. For example the mailing list discussion related to the RMW Pokey contains also my posts that say why it wasn't committed yet:

https://sourceforge.net/p/atari800/mailman/message/34239977/

 

Also, patches in mailing list tend to get lost. GitHub pull request would be great. Even though this is a one liner so I'd have committed it long time ago if only someone else confirmed that the patch does the right thing.

 

I try to accept all useful additions and improvements. If I happen to fail please remind me, I am very busy with the real life so I spend only very limited time on Atari800 nowadays.

 

Thanks,

 

Petr

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Thank you! If you check the "home page" http://joy.sophics.cz/dual-joystick-usb-adapter/ you'll see I use and also strongly suggest to use short extension cable - it's for safety of the adapter when you manipulate with your computer or the joystick cables.

 

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

It's not a good idea to count CPU cycles when you spend most time by emulating the USB.

And there's no space in the flash memory of ATTiny2313 for additional code that would implement the paddles...

I'd have to start that project from scratch, with a different MCU.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

It would be cool if you could implement this, but it may require more than just a firmware update if your controller has no means to take an analog reading off the paddle pots.

 

 

 

Yes, but unfortunately I chose ATtiny2313 microcontroller as the heart of the adapter and this MCU does not have analog inputs. So the answer is no.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Reviving an older thread, but would this work with paddle controllers as well?

 

Give me an example of a paddle controller, please. And please note that even if it worked it would emulate classic four (eight) direction joystick with a single fire button only.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Nice work! Interesting how you kept the joysticks separate as two controllers detected with just the one USB connection.

Looking forward to the Windows Controller screenshots showing both Joystick properties.

I used two USB end points.

 

This is how it looks in Windows 8.1. Sorry it's in Czech, I didn't know how to switch Windows to English (I'm a full-time Linux user/developer). I try to obtain a screenshot from English Windows at friend's computer. Nevertheless, you see that the adapter provides two separate joysticks.

 

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

 

Perhaps a screenshot showing the Windows Controller screen here and especially that sales page?

Something like the picture below showing how Windows recognizes the adapter, which I am guessing both sticks will be picked up as one controller?

 

I'll post it when I come home and reboot to Windows. There are two controllers naturally.

 

This is how it looks in Linux:

 

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

I don't know that retrobit cable but from its reviews it seems to have quality issues and is not Linux compatible. Also, no word about Windows 10+ compatibility. My adapter is 100% compatible with Linux (i.e. also Raspberry Pi and similar small computers useful for retro gaming) and is also working great in Windows 10+.

 

And I find my design actually sexier but what's sexy is just a personal opinion.

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

I just got mine in the mail today and plugged into my Windows 7 setup and it failed, BUT after unplugging and plugging back in it found the drivers and is now working great. Thanks for the neat Atari hardware project.

I'm glad you reported that it's working great. The initial Windows searching for a driver takes incredibly long sometimes but it's just for the first time. I have no idea what Windows do there for so long and it's sad that it can even fail as you say. It's just standard plug&play HID driver for joystick, no reason for searching it like it was hidden somewhere on other side of Moon or so.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Petr,

Can you try to download this emulator (of TI-99/4A) for the PC and check if your adapter works ?

Select the game "Munch Man" that is the easiest (both joystick ports should work)

or "TI Invaders" to check the firebutton

(under options you can see the keyboard / joystick settings) - straightforward

Globeron,

 

as expected my dual joystick USB adapter works out-of-the-box with the TI emulator. No configuration was necessary. TI Invaders was great fun - and looked very much like the Atari original!

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

 

4 directional, or actually 8?

Internally (in the joystick) there are four directional triggers or small push buttons: left, right, up, down. You can push the stick diagonally but then it simply presses two buttons at once - say left + up. So technically it's indeed 4 directional signalling, 4 bits of information about the position of the stick.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Since the adapter makes the Atari joysticks appear in the system just like ordinary "native" joysticks there's no reason it wouldn't work.

 

Basically whenever an emulator supports host joysticks my adapter will allow to use Atari joysticks instead.

 

I can't test Windows binary at home as I don't have Windows anywhere near me. I can try it on Monday at work, perhaps.

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

will this enable a proper joystick to work on other PC games too?

Yes, the Atari joysticks appear in the system just like any other "native" joysticks.

 

I'll add screenshots from Windows game controller setup on the web page on Monday.

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

Does it work with Atari paddles and driving controller?

nope, it's for 4-directional joystick only (it's written on the web page).

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

Alright, just PayPal me and I'll ship it to you. Email me for details.

[Dual Joystick USB adapter]

Hi guys,

not sure if this is the right place for my announcement but if you play games on your PC/Mac/Android using an emulator you might want to check out my new hardware adapter that will make it so much better

http://joy.sophics.c...ck-usb-adapter/

 

The web mentions Atari 8bit games but it's valid for Atari 16/32 bit as well as ST/TT used the same joysticks. And of course Commodore 64 and all other computers with those classic 9-pin four-directional + single fire button joysticks.

If you're interested please send me an email. The contact is linked at the bottom of the web page.

Thanks,

Petr

[Dual Joystick USB Adapter]

Hi guys,

not sure if this is the right place for my announcement but if you happen to enjoy Atari 8bit games and sometimes have to play them on your PC/Mac/Android using an emulator you might want to check out my new hardware adapter that will make it so much better

http://joy.sophics.cz/dual-joystick-usb-adapter/

If you're interested please send me an email. The contact is linked at the bottom of the web page.

Thanks,

Petr