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    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

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    14 hours ago, toddtmw said:

    If I place an empty .atr file on the SD card and the ECXL lets me write to it, what's to keep it from overwriting other .atr files? How does it know which disks are okay to write to and which disks aren't?

     

    The use case is, I wanted to copy some floppies from real disks to .atr files. I was like, I can just use ECXL, but the File menu on ECXL seems to be missing the ability to create empty .atr files and also to say whether to make them writable or not, and also as a bonus, when it's okay to actually write the changes.

     

    If I have 10 disks I want to copy, I have to create 10 blank .atr files (copy the file 10 times) on the SD card and then put that in the Eclaire?

     

    Then what? Mount one and sector copy to it?

     

    Just feels like a missing piece of utility. I ended up using my SIO2USB device because my SDM has not (yet) been modified to coexist with other SIO devices.

     

    It's not exactly necessary, there are other ways to do it, it would just be a nice bonus feature.

    Ok, yeah that is the way it has to be done at the moment, yes. I guess it could be one or two steps simpler if there was a disk creation tool in the Eclaire. A write protect toggle would be nice as well, I’ve never actually thought about it since I’ve always wanted to write to the .atr files I have. I keep a couple of backups on my computer so I don’t have to be afraid of losing anything.

    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    1 hour ago, toddtmw said:

    Yeah. That's not really a good option. Plus, if I did that, how would I save the data? How would I right protect a disk?

     

    I think this functionality might be missing entirely.

    I don’t think I quite understand what you are trying to do. What kind of data do you want to save and where? Is it the .atr file you want to have write protected?

    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    13 hours ago, toddtmw said:

    I have a question. 

     

    Is is it possible to create disks using the sd card?  In other words, can you use this to sector copy real disks to .atr files?

    I don't see why not. As far as I know, there's no way to create an empty disk image on the EclaireXL, you'll need to create one and place on the SD card manually. (or just copy another .atr file and format it into a blank in the program of your choice) I've sector copied real disks to an SD2SIO previously and it works just fine, this should be even simpler, if anything.

    dump my Atari OS ROM

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

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    2 hours ago, hunmanik said:

    I was reading over this thread and remembered this Finnish 600XL manual that seems to describe similar localized OS functions:

     

    http://www.atarimania.com/documents/atari_600xl_manual_finnish.pdf

     

     

    Ooh, I assume there is a place to find all these exotic ROMs? Would be cool to try out.

     

    As a follow-up to my own issues above I can just say that it is probably an issue with the emulator I was using. The Swedish ROM worked just fine when I tried it elsewhere and is now my default ROM image in my EclaireXL as well.

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    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    If there are more Swedes than me and @KlasO I can recommend the keyboard I bought earlier today: https://www.clasohlson.com/se/Mekaniskt-gaming-tangentbord-Exibel-GKX-C/38-7975#undefined

     

    Now for finding a solution for the keys. I am running the EclaireXL with my original Swedish ROM, so the keys aren't the same as in the US sticker set earlier in the thread. I'll get back with some photos when everything is in place.

    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, KlasO said:

    It seems to be available on Amazon DE but not shipping to my our country. Shipping from Amazon international is indeed almost as much as the keyboard costs...

    Exactly, I checked Amazon UK as well, same thing. Amazon FR actually didn’t say it wouldn’t deliver to Sweden but they didn’t have it in stock, so I’m guessing it’s the same from them. I’ll keep looking ...

    Atari compatible hardware eclaireXL, in mini form.

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    Mine appeared this morning after a very snappy delivery over the weekend from Greece to Sweden. Thanks a lot @santosp and @foft for a true work of art of a product. Thanks also for having the latest core pre-installed, took me a while to realise I should test that first before trying to install one myself. ;) Hope to source someone to print the beautiful XL case from @wt808 soon as well. Good times! Tomorrow's project will be to transfer the Scandinavian ROM from my original 600 XL.

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    New Atari Console that Ataribox?

    in Atari 2600

    Posted

     

    You'll buy a brand new box for a $20 - $30 game that's already going to be on PS4, Xbox One, and PC for likely at least a year before Atari VCS is even out?

     

     

    Fair point ... I wouldn't mind a PS4 I guess. But if I was to start thinking about getting one, I'd probably start thinking I "needed" to get the pro version and the PSVR headset. And then we'd be a bit beyond those $200. But then again, running T4k in VR would probably justify it.

    EclaireXL annual update

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    - Spectrum Next ran by me completely, so I wouldn't actually know. 3,000 you say ? But, I don't have a reference point on how strong Spectrum retro community is compared to, say, Atari one. They were very strong in UK, no ?

    - Still, on KS, you need some WoW factor.

    - You know what ? You actually are onto something here. You just made me realize -this very moment- that we could use my 3D demos for exactly that. I already talked to foft that we might generate more interest here on AA, once those demos are up&running.

     

     

     

    I'm glad you were inspired! =)

    Yes, the Spectrum Next is probably a very unique case, with the original's inexplicably large UK following. Plus the fact that they managed to get the original industrial designer to design a great looking new case. I also think they managed to hit a good price point and looked very trustworthy in their campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1835143999/zx-spectrum-next

     

    BUT: they certainly didn't have any cool new 3D demos AND it wasn't a Fuji logo on the case. Considering the evidently failed Ataribox, that's probably something people would go for. Now, securing the rights for that might be a very different task of course ...

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    EclaireXL annual update

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted

    If we can't get 20 people here on AA, which is the most hardcore target group, how could KS help get more ?

     

    Besides, there's a strong anti-upgrade sentiment in the Atari community, even though almost every other Atari later down the road was upgradeable...

     

     

    I think there could be a target group that just doesn't hang around these parts of the web... Remember the Spectrum Next? They had more than 3000 supporters. Granted, that project was on a different scale but still.

     

    And maybe I'm not the only one being very interested in an ÉclairXL but lack the skills to contribute anything this early in the project.

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    Developers/testing required for mini-itx clone system - ÉclaireXL

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

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    Not sure how to interpret this. Are you saying that anything not in a stock or re-make of stock case is really worth doing?

     

     

    Ah, sorry, no not at all. I'll definitely be buying an Éclaire anyway, but a remake case would be a fantastic bonus. And since several projects are using the mini ITX standard, I'm hoping there's an industrial designer out there that would fancy doing an Atari 8-bit look-a-like mini ITX case.

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    Developers/testing required for mini-itx clone system - ÉclaireXL

    in Atari 8-Bit Computers

    Posted · Edited by P1r

    Has anyone done a comparison of the Eclair project with other FPGA solutions like MIst or MIster? I heard the core developer is the same on both. I'm excited for all new Atari projects and products but have several original Atari 8-bits, and a MIst. I may create a USB 800xl since none of the new projects fit natively in an A8. I am in no discord with the developers' design intent- that's just what I like. What are member's opinions on this... Would an Eclair be worth it to a MIst owner or seem redundant? Would you prefer an XEL if you were to spend on new project hardware?

     

     

    I'm not a fan of the generic mini-itx boxes but realise the pros of keeping to a standard. I'm hugely envious of the Sinclair fans who got the Spectrum Next and would easily jump on a Kickstarterproject that did the same with the Atari 8-bit line. Given all these great projects you mention, there really only is need for a nicely designed box that would fit in with the old XL and/or XE lines ...

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