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Thanks Jas. Looks like PAL & NTSC carts are indeed different, in relation to the speed of the runs. Nads commented on my original query on the HSC thread, pretty much outlining this difference in more detail. Other lads also noticed the speed difference. Oh well. Can put this to bed and get back to some atari gameage! Thx & Cheers

Thanks nads Interesting. Oh well. It is what it is. Game on. Last score run on SKIING. 23.68. That's it for me on this bonus. Played on STELLA, NTSC rom.

Cheers oyama. Started a thread to move my query, http://atariage.com/forums/topic/275432-pal-version-of-skiing-different-than-ntsc/

Due to possible excessive banter about my query and hijacking a HSC thread .. I've started this post. Here is the thread I started the question on http://atariage.com/forums/topic/275371-season-7-week-5-frostbite/ . An excerpt of my last post is below. Wow My Skiing run felt good on the original atari/activision PAL hardware, being an aussie. I noticed some of the other scores were already seconds faster. How can then be? So I jumped on Stella, started the PAL version of Skiing and ran the same path I use. Around the same time. Doh . I then ran then NTSC version on Stella using my same path, with only a handful of runs. 23.81 Near on 5 seconds faster on the same path. Plus.. I think one of the trees seemed to be in a slightly different horizontal position, causing me to do another tap side-wards. PAL vs NTSC framerate differences surely can't account for the huge time differences ... can they? Don't forget ... I played an original PAL cart on a PAL Vader and then the PAL rom on Stella with the same-ish times. So its not my hardware. Interesting . Food for thought. Definitely time to improve once the brain shuts off Pity its on emulation though #EDIT#. Hold on!!!! (sorry to hijack!). I'm a fan of the atari kwik twitch games like Dragster/Barnstorming/Skiing. Recently at home I equaled the twin galaxies listed record for Skiing, on Game 1, at 32.72. I just realize that I played that on the original PAL cart and my PAL Vader So does that mean the PAL cart of Skiing ... runs differently on Game 7??? I need a beer . Sorry to hijack ... but I thought other PAL players may be affected. Cheers. If this query looks like it will turn into back and forth banter, I'll move the query out of this thread instantly. So in a nutshell.... ~ I played an Activision PAL version of SKIING last week on a PAL 'Vader' with s-video mod. I equaled the GAME 1 Twin Galaxies HS of 32.72. The HS is listed as NTSC. ~ After work today ... and with a few beers under the belt .. I dip my toe into the HSC pond to drop a time on one of this weeks HSC games, SKIING Game 7. ~ After some research on youtube (which made me feel guilty ) I cranked up my PAL Vader, inserted the same PAL Activison SKIING cart, I had previously equaled the TG record, and attempted some good times based on a path I found on youtube. I dropped a 28.40, which I felt was solid based on the gameplay. After comparing this time to historical times and some lads on the HSC thread ... I was 5 seconds-ish behind. WTF?? ~ I literally ran to my laptop and cranked up STELLA (pretty sad ). I started a PAL rom of SKIING and tried my path. I think I hit a 28.81 with a few tries. Same time-ish. ~ I then started a NTSC rom of SKIING .. and within a few runs .. I hit a 23.81. Same path. 5 second-ish faster. WTF?? And so my query begins..... Any answers from the gurus? Not the death of a president I know .... just interested in the why. In my eyes ... which may be biased ... GAME 1 on my PAL cart appeared to play the same as the NTSC version. Hence being able to equal the top score. GAME 7 however appeared notably slower. My wife even videoed me on my phone playing the atari .. and I compared it to a very similar run on youtube. Noticeably slower. Around 5 secs as I stated. MMM?

Wow My Skiing run felt good on the original atari/activision PAL hardware, being an aussie. I noticed some of the other scores were already seconds faster. How can then be? So I jumped on Stella, started the PAL version of Skiing and ran the same path I use. Around the same time. Doh . I then ran then NTSC version on Stella using my same path, with only a handful of runs. 23.81 Near on 5 seconds faster on the same path. Plus.. I think one of the trees seemed to be in a slightly different horizontal position, causing me to do another tap side-wards. PAL vs NTSC framerate differences surely can't account for the huge time differences ... can they? Don't forget ... I played an original PAL cart on a PAL Vader and then the PAL rom on Stella with the same-ish times. So its not my hardware. Interesting . Food for thought. Definitely time to improve once the brain shuts off Pity its on emulation though #EDIT#. Hold on!!!! (sorry to hijack!). I'm a fan of the atari kwik twitch games like Dragster/Barnstorming/Skiing. Recently at home I equaled the twin galaxies listed record for Skiing, on Game 1, at 32.72. I just realize that I played that on the original PAL cart and my PAL Vader So does that mean the PAL cart of Skiing ... runs differently on Game 7??? I need a beer . Sorry to hijack ... but I thought other PAL players may be affected. Cheers. If this query looks like it will turn into back and forth banter, I'll move the query out of this thread instantly.

Skiing 28.40 Played on: 'Vader' with S-Video mod.

Ahhh .. The Shovelware Game On!

Realsports Football 99-6 4:38 left on clock. Played on: 'Vader' with S-Video mod. Thanks to Mr Strum for the tips.

Damn Leto Do u sleep with that under your pillow?

Oops. Late reply. Dissapeared off the face of the earth when I posted this. Didn't want to be rude by not replying Yup .. expensive. Still happy as hell. Faultless!. Since then, I got off the lazy chair and bought a refurb kit from mojoatomic, and new soldering station. Started refurbing my other Vader, keeping her original (RF). Having only just got back into the 2600 at the time of this post, I was going through the honeymoon period and the Retrofix website played the Jedi mind trick on me

Minor Improvement 22,980 Just ordered a Retronic usb adapter. Feels so wrong using the KB to play, when the cart's not in the collection! The 2600 gods are telling me to sit in the corner

About time I dipped my virgin toe into the 2600 HSC AA-pond, instead of just admiring with popcorn! Plus .. a gr8 kick-in-the-pants to sit in front of the 'Vadar' with a beer more often! 21,030 Keyboard mashing on Stella. Don't have the Beamrider cart. Gr8 game. Straight onto the Want List

Thx for the link RH. Gr8 pics. Hah! Atari wrist sweatbands. Gold

Recently, I decided to go down the path of modding one of my PAL 2600 'Vaders', sending her some 3400km across Australia to get some electronic beauty therapy, massage, botox and boob job This morning, I was pleasantly surprised to find a 'Vader' sized box sitting on the breakfast bar. A number of weeks ago, I sent off the Vader to Retrofix Australia for a full service, cosmetic refurb & AV Modding with S-Video and Composite. I also had a little red 'Power' LED mod for some w#nk value. https://www.retrofix.com.au/magento/ I must say, I'm mighty pleased. The whole case/switches look stunning after its plastic/metal polishing and the AV Mod is mega neat with quality components. The Atari's picture on my 10 year old 40" Sony Bravia LCD is fantastic, with a mega crisp and clean image. More info on the actual refurb and AV Mod details can been found here ... https://www.retrofix.com.au/magento/index.php/products/atari/2600/consoles-modified/atari-2600-vadar-console.html A big thx to Jess and the Retrofix team for the Vader facelift. Awesome job My shitty phone photos don't do the refurb real justice!

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+1 on BGs' review Picked this up in my last cart bundle. Good game and a refreshing take on a shooter. Have to admit, I only gave Game 1 a wack for a while. Will lend my peepers on the manual and give it a more in-depth bash.

I just picked up Tutankham in my last cart bundle .... and I must say .... I'm lovin' it ! She's grabbed me by the crotch, causing me both pleasure and pain This port doesn't appear to get too much lovin' .. but I keep going back for more. Gr8 run 'n gun rumblings imo

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/198275-heavy-vs-light-sixer-differences-revisited-more-than-a-thick-base/?hl=+heavy%20+sixer%20+vs%20+light%20+sixer

Hah.. I had to re-read that first off. My nightshifted brain initially read it as .... "......I love the thing I would have taken a six inched woodie had I the chance" Oops .... nothing to see here, move along!

The Atari-Bird laid another cardboard square egg at the front door for me this morning ...

The top half of the number '3' also has the same style. Top leg is flat with a slight upward curl on the middle short leg.

Just received my 'Mojo Kit' , down here in Oz. Sturdy package. Excellent communication with Mojo. Very helpful indeed! Thx Dougy