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19 hours ago, adamchevy said:
That’s wonderful news. Thanks for the quick reply! You saved me about $200 for a Gimmick famicom cart I was planning on buying. I like having original carts for the games I really enjoy playing a lot, but that ones a bit steep.
I think the analogue products may need their own thread at this point.
Another question: the noir comes with the 2.4g retro receiver that seems to be unavailable for purchase anywhere? Has anyone found a place to purchase these?
Welcome! And yeah it does, if only to help Kev better keep track of bugs that need to be squashed.
And yes, the Noir does come with one NES 2.4g controller -- they are out of stock everywhere, but it looks like 8BitDo is producing more, if this e-mail exchange is to be believed:
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29 minutes ago, adamchevy said:
Does anyone know if the Analogue nt mini noir when jailbroken supports full expansion audio from famicom games on the SD card? Gimmick comes to mind for example.
It does. In fact the NT Mini Noir "knows" when an expansion audio ROM is being played and will automatically activate the required expansion chip without your needing to.
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16 hours ago, Mattelot said:
If the rumors are true and the pocket does NES, Super NES, etc... it will be their best seller. If it only does handheld games, I imagine it will be one of the better sellers.
The hype behind the Game Boy Advance support alone will make this console a top seller, if not the best seller. I've never seen this much desire behind any of the Analogue products at all. It doing everything else is like some sort of super icing when compared.
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3 hours ago, Atariboy said:
At that time, I was under the impression that it wasn't expected to see multiple runs.
The language coming from Analogue had many of us fearing that and although tempered by the lack of logic in leaving many potential sales by the wayside, I thought I potentially had missed out when I encountered similar troubles to what many others did when attempting to preorder (After rearranging my schedule to be home at my PC, which didn't help my mood).
I'm glad to see that nonsense didn't come to pass.
I never understand this logic at all. Say what you will about their marketing and distancing to their fans, but they've never given anyone reason to doubt that they won't come through on releasing product. Sans a few delays & COVID, they've released everything they've set out to release, with many things having subsequent reprints, and an original console having a UI redesign and final release. There's no reason why they wouldn't continue to release Pockets well into the future. I have full faith in the fact that it will turn out to be their highest seller of all time, in fact.
Everyone had trouble trying to preorder a Pocket, that's just how it is now-a-days. Same for PS5, XBOX Series X, Multiple highly anticipated Switch games, RTX3080s and so on. And even with everything Analogue stated yesterday, it'll still be an ongoing problem.
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Pretty interesting teardown! My first time seeing the insides of this particular unit too! Thanks!
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Another one!
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I dropped this video for people who might want some palettes for use on their Noir. Can also be used on the OG 2017 Mini.
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Just now, Keatah said:
Right. I did as a kid. Now many years later I've got the space. But not the wherewithal to spend the time with the upkeep and dusting and re-acquisition of it all. Hence my focus on minimalism for physical hardware.
I think that's more of a change with yourself then, and that's totally fine as well.
We thankfully live in a time now where both physical and digital forms of most older hardware can mingle and co-exist in ones home to one's own taste now. You can have next to nothing and do everything on your PC or emu-box of choice, or you can have a few consoles and play with a mixture of physical carts and ROMs. You could also go full bore physical media and play with some fancy upscaler. Or fall short of physical media and instead have flash cart or ODE solutions. It's really a great time to be alive and no one should feel the burden of keeping physical media if it doesn't make them happy any more for whatever reason.
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On 12/9/2020 at 10:06 PM, thegoldenband said:
This conversation has taken a rather strange turn, but I want to point out one thing: for those of us who actually play our games, and buy them in order to play them, the idea of a complete set can be a totally different thing, and has more to do with playing than collecting.
Among other things it's a way to experience the entire library for a console, ideally with an open mind and with each game on its own terms, rather than via someone else's idea of what we "should" play.
That's what I love about people who try to beat a system's whole library, like TheMexicanRunner, Goati, and others like them. They understand the big picture in a way that few do -- in the same way that you can understand a director by watching all their movies, or a composer or band by listening to all of their works -- and they seem to develop a deeper appreciation for everything they play, rather than leaping to typical, off-the-cuff YouTube hot takes.
Of course the counterargument is that you can have the same experience with a ROM set, and in many ways you can. But we all know the pseudo-ADHD condition many of us get from ROM sets, in which we can't settle on any one game to play -- and it's not just a question of numbers, but also of the way that ROMs can start to feel meaningless, divorced from the context offered by the game's packaging, manual, etc.
I recently got a Jaguar Game Drive cart and found myself having that experience: on a console where I could only play the 7 games I actually owned, and had been able to focus enough to beat the majority of them, now I could play anything...and didn't really want to stick with anything. Having the real thing helps me focus, at least.
Also, I can't tell you how many times I've played a game and discovered that some non-obvious gameplay element was only detailed in the manual or other packaging elements. (The puzzle in Marvel's X-Men for NES was pretty obvious to me as a kid, but impossible to deduce without the physical cart or a scan of it!) And tons of games still don't have full manual scans online, let alone the maps and other things that sometimes came with the games.
That said, I've only really tried to collect complete sets for two consoles with small libraries, 32X and Intellivision. Came very close with the 32X, with only one game left, but didn't want to pay big bucks for Spider-Man; Intellivision, I've got all but a few games. In both cases I got almost everything on the cheap.
I really like this take, and it's something of a path that I've been going down myself, particularly with Famicom Disk System games. Since I've started I've beaten a number of games to completion and found not only a much deeper appreciation for the console, but also of the Japanese Famicom that I never owned and also of the NES many games of which were originally ON the Disk System. If I never sat down and played these games, they would just take up a part of my home much like any other collector.
I've also made that same argument many times when it comes to owning full ROM sets -- for every person who has a ton of physical games and has paralysis on what to play, you have the same problem for someone who has a full ROM set of games... the same paralysis exists, if not becomes worse. Then choice is made much easier when you can have context for what you might want to play, like flipping through a manual or checking out the artwork and such. The same argument could be made for going online and looking up guides or artwork online and so on, but for me it always seems like it doesn't hold true in my experience talking to people.
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On 12/6/2020 at 4:11 PM, Keatah said:
Not exactly. Collecting to the point where it just piles up is simply no fun. It becomes a burden. Then downsizing happens.
Maybe for you and some others. Not everyone has a space issue or collects everything without pause or forethought.
You said it yourself that you wanted everything and anything previously (after my initial post). That's a big issue right there if you have no consideration for space or viability. Many people fall into this trap because it becomes absurdly easy to buy up lots of games.
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I've collected once before as a person who wanted to first collect the games I played and loved as a kid, then towards games I DIDN'T get to play as a kid. Once I got most of what I wanted I stopped, barring something interesting that I find at a convention for a decent price. Alternatively, now I find games at garage sales for next to nothing sometimes and I make the choice to either to add to the collection or sell off for some money. It's actually a nice feeling to know that I always have the choice of playing on flash carts or some sort of emulation to make up the difference for games that are out of my reach or absurdly expensive.
My collecting has had a small evolution when it comes to the NES, however -- I started down the path of collecting Famicom Disk System games due to a friend and a couple of cool YouTube videos and now I'm absolutely obsessed with finishing the set in some form. Since it's only 210 games for the full set and a relatively small form factor, it's quite simple enough to take my time on it. I'm nearing 140 of the set and it literally only took me a year or so, breaking even on my investment every time. It'll be my only full set of games and I'm completely happy with that.
In the end, I'd say do whatever makes you happy. If you are pleased with collecting (tons of) full sets of games, go for it, and don't let anyone dissuade you from doing so. Usually people that do this are jealous, or spend way too much time worrying about how people spend their own money or live their gaming lives. You only have the one life to live, so do what makes you happy. It's definitely an obsession if it matters, haha.
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I also have an NT Mini. And I have a number of RAM Adapters that work just fine with it. And now I have a Noir, and it also works just fine with the same RAM Adapters. If that guy has the first revision of the RAM adapter (or one with an early BIOS) it would be interesting to see.
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1 hour ago, GarrettCRW said:
I haven't been able to reliably play my FDS in YEARS because the Nt Mini can't properly (as shown in the deep recesses of this thread) read the RAM adapter. So, please, tell me more about how I shouldn't expect more updates to my console because there was a surprise re-engineering. And then tell me how the Intellivision WASN'T a long-promised core on the original Nt Mini.
Interested in what board revision your RAM Adapter is. If you can open it up!
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21 hours ago, Malrinth said:
How can you get more preorders when no one is accepting more preorders. In fact they are even cancelling preorders.
But that doesn't make me think money or rather the lack of it isn't the problem.
Maybe Playmaji just doesn't know what they are doing??? <insert perplexed emoji here>
Seems like a major play for investors that flopped big time. There's no way in hell a company like Wal-mart dropped the ball. They just got out of the deal is all. Playmaji is fucked unless they find an angel investor willing to take that risk.
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On 10/27/2020 at 11:52 PM, blzmarcel said:
I would argue when they bring it back a decade-plus after it was fully superseded is more of a novelty at that point. The main product (Switch, XB1, PS4) is what they're really selling. Things like the "Virtual Console", XBL Arcade, etc, and even the likes of the "NES Classic Edition" are largely emulators, rather than a reproduction of the original hardware. The VC was even found to be using NES roms that could be found on most rom sites over the years, completely with the extra iNES header which was a dead giveaway. So while it might matter to a degree, it's not the same as when the system was in it's prime.
Hmm... incorrect on quite a few fronts. Novelty or not, it's Nintendo's intellectual property and they have full rights to take people to court if they feel they are in violation, even if they (Nintendo) themselves use emulation techniques to produce their own content (such as NES Classic) as well.
The VC actually did not use NES ROMs that was found on the internet, they dumped their own ROMs over the years. This was confirmed VERY recently with the Gigaleaks -- the NES lotcheck and the FDS master lotcheck both contained the full ROM sets that employees had dumped for their own use. We can take this one step further for confirmation -- since the FDS files came from master disks, not only are they the cleanest ROM dumps to be found (both the Smokemoster pack as well as the NoIntro/GoodNES sets have bad dumps), the set also contained 6 games that had never been released (or known) to the general public. They also had to reconstruct the Zelda FDS master disk from ROM chips due to the original master disk failing.
Finally, they created a conversion tool that would convert .QD files (their proprietary disk format which is self checking and has CRCs values of each file on the disk) into the more common .FDS files (CRC values must be generated as they don't exist on this format) for their work. Essentially this means that the .QD files *should* be the standard for the Famicom Disk System ROMs, being the format that Nintendo themselves created that self checks for accuracy. If it matters, the Nintendo master disks actually have CRC values written onto the labels themselves prior to the .QD format creation. Sorry to go so deep into Famicom Disk System territory like this, but right now it's the single best example of Nintendo dumping their own software and media and not going on the internet for it.
The reason why people assume that Nintendo downloads files online is due to a somewhat storied history of their employees using emulators such as VirtuaNES & iNES in their own development work, which is totally fine. As CZRoe said, by they time they started on work like this, emulator standards existed, so no need to reinvent the wheel.
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On 10/20/2020 at 12:46 PM, blzmarcel said:
Another important difference is that Bleed and VGS came out when the PS1 was still being sold, so it was an issue of competition, which Sony argued was unfair. Regardless of who won, it's a very different matter when it comes to consoles and games decades after they ceased being sold in the primary market.
This is exactly my point. As soon as the console becomes an older generation the companies get lax on policing over it, mainly due to them no longer producing units or software for it any more. The more time that passes, the less relevant to their bottom line. The only time it matters is when they bring the software back for a "Virtual Console" or "Classic" affair.
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Ehh, the Bleem story is kinda different. At the time PSX games were new and relevant, so Sony HAD to do something about protecting their IP from a company who was doing stuff like that. This isn't the same thing. Companies like Analogue don't get in trouble because they know to stay away from marketing their products as things that can be used for illegal operation. You can't stop people from hacking their phones and devices and downloading/using emulators, so big game companies really just avoid the cat and mouse on that.
They WILL however go after anyone who openly sells their IP in any fashion for profit. This is why we see the various ROM sites be taken down (even if they are just making ad revenue). This is also why Nintendo goes after groups like Team Xecuter who sold devices that came preloaded with games and software (or required people to purchase a "license" to unlock the features that would allow them to play pirated games). Analogue isn't doing anything near to these examples, so they will be just fine.
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15 hours ago, ApolloBoy said:
That already happened earlier this year, I don't think Analogue is doing a third run(?).
This is the 3rd run technically, and it's happening in approximately 28~41 days from this post.
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16 hours ago, Toth said:
Well, I decided to try it tonight and it actually works. The start and select may be slanted but they are in the same positions and work after the swap. The DPADs and the PCB thickness are the exact same so the button feel and everything is good. The mounting holes are the same as well. Even the micro usb port and the led lights work and are lined up perfectly. It is pretty clear that they fixed the dpad in the newer controllers. The contacts are the same style as original SNES controllers. Also, the new 2.4ghz controllers switched to Torx screws instead of regular Philips head screws for some reason so a set of Torx are needed. The bit I used was the Torx TR6/T6H from the iFixit set though it doesn't have to be the "security" style Torx.
Oh wow, nice test my man!
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16 hours ago, newtmonkey said:
Interesting, is that the US or JP console?
You probably need to update the firmware on your receiver (and controller).
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3 hours ago, Kismet said:
That's not how it works.
When eBay ends a listing, the listing fees are credited back to the person who listed it. If the listing already ended due to a winning bidder/buyer than it's a dispute between the buyer and seller, and if paid by paypal, falls under Paypal's policy.
https://www.paypal.com/us/brc/article/presale-policy-and-reserves
If they paid the seller by some other means contact the payment provider to say no item was received.
If the seller tries it a third time, they are banned from eBay for life.
Do not bid on pre-orders, because you may just end up out the money, and do not list pre-orders because you're committing fraud.
Oki, is a tad different from directly selling an item that's in hand, but the gist is that there's a 3 strike against a repeat offender. Also, from eBay's policy on Presales:
QuoteActivity that doesn't follow eBay policy could result in a range of actions including for example: administratively ending or canceling listings, hiding or demoting all listings from search results, lowering seller rating, buying or selling restrictions, and account suspension. All fees paid or payable in relation to listings or accounts on which we take any action will not be refunded or otherwise credited to your account.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/presale-listings-policy?id=4252
Listing fees are not returned. PayPal does and will work as hard as they can with the buyer to get their money back, same as eBay. However, getting your money back is much harder if it goes over 30+ days. Thankfully, there are multiple people actively reporting and having the Pocket listings taken down. And eBay is absolutely not in the seller's favor in most disputes, even more so when outed as a scammer or doing shady things.
Sellers should handle all of their transactions via PayPal anyways IMO, but that's just me. Much more oversight for both the buyer and seller. A lot of those other CCs and banks can take a long time to handle and finalize a dispute (up to 80 days).
And finally agreed, no one should bid on (or list) pre-orders. Unfortunately, you're not speaking to the right crowd on that one, I think.
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1 hour ago, Toth said:
You can report those but eBay has so far ignored the reports. (When you hit report these are the categories: Listing practices>Inappropriate seller terms>Presale)
I also question whether eBay would refund you, that your credit card company might not allow a chargeback that long after the fact and what does that do to your relationship with eBay. Also, Analogue probably won't give you warranty coverage on it which is a legitimate concern as we saw with the MegaSG adapters. There are so many shady things that could happen with these.
eBay will for sure refund you, as they favor the seller over the buyer in most cases. However, cases aren't supposed to go that long -- opening a case after 45+ days is suspect, and you have much less of a leg to stand on.
Also it's not Analogue's responsibility to cover anything that's determined to be resold on eBay, so it's understandable that they wouldn't cover the Mega SG adapters.
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8 hours ago, jamon1567 said:
I don't know that they'll do that for a purchase 9 months ago though is my point.
You're violating eBay's policy if you don't ship within 30 days:
QuotePresale listings must clearly state that they are "presale" in the title and description, and guarantee delivery within 30 days of purchase.
In order to protect buyer and seller guarantees, presale listings must follow eBay policy, including listing the date the item will be available to ship.
What is the policy?
- Presale listings must guarantee that the item will be shipped within 30 days of purchase
- The date the item will be available to ship must be clearly stated in the listing
- Listings must clearly indicate in the title and description that the item is being offered for presale
- Handling time details should include the time the seller will wait to acquire the item, in addition to the time it will take to ship to the buyer
Activity that doesn't follow eBay policy could result in a range of actions including for example: administratively ending or canceling listings, hiding or demoting all listings from search results, lowering seller rating, buying or selling restrictions, and account suspension. All fees paid or payable in relation to listings or accounts on which we take any action will not be refunded or otherwise credited to your account.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/presale-listings-policy?id=4252
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36 minutes ago, jamon1567 said:
Im curious as to whats gonna happen when these people just don't send the Pocket for these preorders theyre selling on eBay, cuz eBay sure as hell isn't gonna refund them their money. Maybe they can get it back if they file a chargeback on their card, but I wouldn't take that chance.
I'll get a first time slap on the wrist and forced to refund the full amount to the buyer. What this means is that eBay/PayPal won't refund them the 10%/4% cut they take ("Seller's Fees") from the sale. They'll be out 50-60 ish bucks depending.
If they don't have the buyer's money in their PayPal account, eBay will just have them sent to collections. eBay will also do a courtesy refund to the buyer in this sense and wash their hands of it (it's a tax write off for them in the bigger picture). If this isn't a first time offense of the seller, they'll have their account suspended or banned and that's that.
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