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5 hours ago, masteries said:
Regarding thread:
I attached an EmuTOS bootable SD card image, EmuTOS driver is embedded.
This image loads EmuTOS entirely into RAM, as far the image author stated.
Probably this can be used to create new TOS 1.0 - 1.04 suitable
partitions... never tried it. If I remember well, the author is Czietz.
Awesome. Thank you! I will give this a shot in about 8 and a half hours. haha. I have somewhere I need to be until then.
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12 minutes ago, Tillek said:
Putnik? He's bashing eveyone who doesn't worship him and agree 100% with everything he says. That's how he got banned just about everywhere... don't take it personally. Actually, I find it funny how obsessed he is with AtariAge posts. I mean, seriously... how do you attack people new to the hobby for asking "stoopid" questions and still call yourself a man?
(Though to be honest, I always recommend that people asking questions about the ST go to Atari-Forum or Exxos forum for this reason).
But back to your issue.
Assuming you downloaded EmuTos from here, did you get the PRG version? https://sourceforge.net/projects/emutos/files/emutos/1.2.1/
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If you want to run this from the auto folder, one of these would be the option you want (just choose the one for your preferred language and probably the 256k).
I would give this a try and then have the bigger partition(s) on the card be a FAT16. These should work fine in Windows and EmuTos and can be up to 2gb. (EmuTos can't read FAT32) I think this will give you the experience you're looking for without having to buy anyone's driver.
Got ya^
Back on point here, I absolutely welcome any useful information regarding the question at hand. I can and will check those other forums.
I did not try those yet. Maybe that's what I was doing wrong. I downloaded that image from the github you provided. It says "works with TOS 1.00" but when I tried using it, nothing happened on my ST. It literally just loaded the original desktop as though I had nothing attached. I am sure I am incorrectly assuming something should show up on the desktop but I don't even get the same boot screen I do when I have the other image flashed.
The other problem I have is that the one image I have that works, marks the whole drive as RAW so I can't create another partition in Windows. Is there a utility I can run in GEM that let's me alter partitions? Problem is I only have one piece of hardware that loads software, it's the SD solution I bought from masteries sales.
The next thing I will try is to grab those files from sourceforge and add them to my SD card using the drvImg program.
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Updated. Moved a few things to sold, and added some stuff.
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I still can't tell if he is bashing me, or everyone else for not answering my question (or answering it wrong?... to.....him?)
I have yet to build a solution that will allow me to accomplish my initial goal.
I know the best method would be to update/upgrade the TOS, but I am looking for a software solution first. Sure running emu TOS might not be the "best" way to run a later TOS, but with 4mb of RAM I figure it won't be e terrible experience.
I would rather not pay $40 to upgrade something and add $10 in future value to the machine. That seems like serious overkill to me.
My main question here is regarding auto booting into a later TOS with partitions on the SD card that can be read in TOS 1.0, as well as later TOS, and Windows. I would like to have a partition that I can put files on in Windows, that can be used on my machine, that auto boots TOS from 1.0 to TOS 1.04.
Example:
Partitions of 200-256 MB, one that can be read in TOS 1.0 and ran. (C drive perhaps) and the rest that the files can be managed from within Windows.
My machine has hardware TOS 1.0 (physical eeprom/rom in machine).
I turn on the machine and it grabs TOS 1.04 or emu TOS (not sure exactly the terms for this) from AUTO folder.
Machine then boots into later TOS from RAM (?) and can now read FAT partitions that can be used in Windows.
If none of this is possible, that's fine. I am only asking if anyone either knows how to do this, or has done it before.
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Well maybe I didn't do it right, or maybe my SD card hard drive adapter is not supported. I downloaded the pre supplied image and flashed it to a 4gb SD card. It made a 200mb ish partition so I made 2 more fat partitions, roughly 1.7gb each. I put the SD in the adapter and fired it up. I let it power itself first, then powered the Atari like usual. It just boots to nothing on the gem desktop.
Using the 1.00 tos image I linked before, everything boots into a desktop with hard drives and floppy icons (but no floppy drives attached).
I tried to move the emutos.sys file to an auto folder but it didn't do anything. Also not sure I made the auto folder on the right partition.
Here is what loads when I boot from the image I previously linked:
Then it loads this desktop:
I don't think the driver this solution uses supports fat partitions. Any ideas?
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31 minutes ago, Tillek said:
So I guess the question is, are you talking about partitions that are simply going to be too big for TOS 1.0's limits? Or a file system incompatible with 1.0? Something else?
I'm also just going to say this as well. I have had bad luck in the past with TOS/DOS(Win) partitions getting corrupted. Others will swear by them and hey... YMMV. If you're just dealing with games or something you can easily copy again, no problem. If it's the source code for the next great Atari ST game....
... back up often. 
Out of curiosity, are we talking about a 520 without the built in drive? Or something else with a dead drive?
Ok so what I understand is that TOS 1.0 requires a different format that my SD adapter can understand, and it is unreadable in Windows. I got it from here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jajpcc8pcp623do/1GBRTWIKI1_6TOS100.RAR/file
Reading this requires a program called drvimg. Using said program on windows, I can transfer files to it. It makes it kinda hard and I am not even sure how to rename the drive partitions, they are in Spanish. I would like to boot this image in TOS 1.0 with an emulated TOS in the auto folder. From there I would like to know if I can have a partition on the disk (SD card) that is FAT so I can read and move files easily within windows.
I am completely new to this entire operating system and will most likely only use this for games for now. Any files I put on it would be easily replaceable. I actually goofed at one point trying to move files to the auto folder, and inadvertently made a partition unusable. I have no idea how that happened so I just wrote that image to SD again and went from there.
It's the 520ST. External power, no internal drive of any kind, HDD or Floppy.
30 minutes ago, Tillek said:Hey... looks like they did more with it and gave it a GitHub home.
https://github.com/czietz/emutos-bootloader
I will totally check this out. Seems like it might be exactly what I was looking for!
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45 minutes ago, Smithers said:
PS .. the mouse is quite slow and needs a lot of wrist work to move. I cant believe there is not a way to adjust the cursor movement. The STFM is from the early 90's. Nothing in the manual about mouse/cursor speed adjustment. I am just surprised the TOS at this time did not have any cursor speed adjustment option 🤨
That is my main complaint as well. There is a prg you can run called fastmouse. It basically doubles the speed of the mouse movement.
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2 hours ago, Tillek said:
My recommendation... get the EmuTos boot disk image and leave that in your floppy drive. We can help with that if needed.
This will boot to EmuTos, and then start the HD boot (it has it's own built in HD driver).
I've also seen that they've worked on a technique to boot that image from a HD (and I think you can do it as an executable too).
I do not have a floppy drive at all.
Can you tell me more about this boot image from HD? My main concern is if I can have a partition that 1.0 can read, and a partition that 1.0 cannot read. Will that mess anything up with the sd card (hard drive) or the system itself?
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Oh crap I should have specified. I have a 520ST that is upgraded to 4MB. I have the RAM to run an emulated TOS, but I am unsure if it will work like that. My goal is to start my machine running TOS 1.0 with an autoboot TOS (1.04?). Is that doable?
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My machine currently has TOS 1.0 and it runs. I'm not ready to upgrade the TOS yet so I would like to know if it is possible to boot into a partition meant for TOS 1.0, then auto boot a later TOS from the drive, and use a second (or multiple) partitions that can be read in later TOS and DOS.
I have the low cost SD solution from masteries, posted for sale here:
Has anyone had any luck doing anything similar? I'm not even sure where to begin to partition the SD card image on a windows PC in order to do this. I am sure I could figure it out if my TOS was later, but for now I have no idea how to actually create an image with partitions in windows for use on older TOS.
Thanks for any tips or direction.
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Ohh nice! Another round. I'd like to put my name in the hat, please. Thanks!
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Sent you a PM
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I have one but shipping might be cost prohibitive. It's yours for the cost of shipping but any padded envelope or small package these days is $5.
To be really sure the one I have will work, I can measure the height of the peg if you want. You'd have to measure yours as well to know if what I have is longer.
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12 minutes ago, videofx said:
Now I feel like I have a brand new 1200XL
Please help me find out where my extra screw goes!!!
Thanks!
Did you get the one in the corner of the heatsink?
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oOOOOOHHHHhhhh. Me please! I will send my message before the deadline but wanted to be accounted for!
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That's what to expect with a name like "hit a score". You think you hit a score? Nope.
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Prices adjusted slightly. Offering split on Coleco & Roller Controller.
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5 minutes ago, videofx said:
Now I have my original 800 with incognito, XEGS and now the 1200XL. I think think that a good assortment.
That's definitely an assortment. I would have kept mine but I needed to downsize, and money.
At least now I can put effort into upgrading the one I have left. haha
Definitely watching here to see what is suggested.
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3 minutes ago, videofx said:
Yes, searching for long time, I bought the one on mercari. If I would have know about yours I would have bought it!
🤷♂️ It was there since aug 24th. I just checked. I would announce these things in their sub forums but I figured it was against the rules to double post.
I am glad you got one. I ended up keeping my 800XL and parting with the 1200XL.
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I had one in the AA market for that price for over a week with no takers. Ended up selling yesterday for $150 with free shipping. Not sure if geography restricts you as I am in the US. Was your purchase the one from Mercari? I saw one sold earlier today for around that price on there.
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Free shipping if you can pay on Venmo (preferably not marked as purchase. Equivalent to F&F on Paypal.)
Time for me to pay a CC bill.
Temp prices in main post are still valid.
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Added Super Nintendo. Prices in previous post still stand until further notice.
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Do you have a Sega model 1 power supply?
I can send you an adapter for the cost of shipping.
... back up often. 
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