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May 5, 2021

On 5/3/2021 at 9:59 PM, moonchilddave said:

This looks like exactly what I would like to accomplish! My preference is the eMMC Grub2 VCS method - but not speaking French I'm probably missing a good bit. Also when I try the link in the video, I get "This page is not allowed in the US". Has anyone else tried this out? I was thinking I'd like to go with Grub2 simply because it allows secure boot (and my worry is that if I make changes and the firmware gets an update I could be screwed - as I don't have an Atari USB Flash Drive and have no idea how to make one.

Hello,

You could find there https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16TAhHA4ZSQDevPVXtz40Oi54Mddn0kIz?usp=sharing

You can install on eMMC, no problem on my console. If there is a new update this will replace grub's boox64.efi with new one boox64.efi. Boot direct to Apertis after update

If I can help you let me know

April 29, 2021

Hello,

I won't have all the answers to your questions, but here is what I hope will help you.

In my opinion there is no reason to move AtariOS to the M.2 card. The eMMC card is fine for carrying the system. For storage, an Ext4 partition on the M.2 card is visible to the system and allows to move applications and games.

If you still want to test, you need the Atari system restore image (Apertis v2020) first. Just in case.

To each his own technique the goal being to achieve these ends ;)

For Windows
Use a USB device and install Windows 10 with WinToUSB from a PC.
Start Windows 10 on the console, from the USB device and finish the installation and the system update.
Install Macrorit expert partition in Windows and clone the USB device to the internal M.2 card (system copy on reboot).

For batocera
I install it on a USB device, I boot it at least once to finish the installation. From Windows, I backup the Batocera and Share partitions with DiskGenius. I burn the two partitions on the M.2 card and restore both of them. If needed, you have to use the extend partitions option in batocera-boot.conf

You can use rEFInd from a usb key (simpler) provided you have deactivated the secure boot. At startup it will list the partitions that contain a system.

I hope this will help you

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April 27, 2021

Hello,

I have buy this one and waiting for, but not before 12 May (For switching card on laptop)

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B08YFD9FJ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.azurewave.com/img/nvidia/AW-CB375NF_DS_B2_A_STD.pdf

I will tell you when I have tested. I hope you find an alternate solution before

April 25, 2021

For me the changes are effective in the UEFI, but I don't see any change in the Windows Performance Manager.

April 21, 2021

5 hours ago, justclaws said:

The UEFI BIOS has certain certificates pre-registered; they are the ones used for Windows, Ubuntu, Fedora etc..
Microsoft basically generated certificates which could be used for Linux and other distributions needing secure-boot.

When you install Linux, it's also possible to add your own keys, using signing tools, under Linux, for example.
It may be that somebody reading this is expert with this, but for most people it's unfamiliar.
e.g. This Debian page explains that in more detail. ?
https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#:~:text=UEFI Secure Boot (SB) is,operating system has been loaded.

Thanks for the link

April 20, 2021

Good evening,

I recently saw a new folder on the first system partition called "apertis". Until the last vcs.21 bios update it was not there.

It contains what seems to be the latest firmware.
There is a folder called "apertis" with a file called "fwupdx64.efi" and a folder called "fw".
The folder named "fw" contains a file named "fwupd-12b99262-648c-4265-bafd-eb812fb7eb47.cap".

Maybe there are some answers to the question of updates in it? In particular, although I don't know anything about certificates, it seems to me that there are URLs that point to certificates, for example: http://crl.microsoft.com/pki/crl/products/MicCorThiParMarRoo_2010-10-05.crl0

I don't know if this is relevant or not, if in doubt I'll share. Sorry if it's not.

April 19, 2021

9 hours ago, moonchilddave said:

So, anyone know where the VCS connects to check for updates? If possible, I'd love to just block that in my router - so I don't end up locked out with another update now that I'm in.

I don't know for firmware updates, some tools as wireshark, Abel & Cain could answer...

For Apps and games, a start of answer is in Storage partition \games\...

exemple with Chrome bundle.ini file

[Bundle]
Name=Google Chrome
Exec=launch-chrome-browser https://atarivcs.com
Type=Application
Version=70
StoreID=S9d8oFdW8umLtTUp
LauncherTags=browser;chrome
LauncherExec=launch-chrome

April 18, 2021

On 4/17/2021 at 8:48 PM, Erzak said:

So yesterday, someone sent me a message here saying the new password is:

Atar!C3l3br8te$50Ye4r$

I don't know who this person (tadream ?) is, and haven't tried it. I expect it's fake.

Thank you so much!

April 16, 2021

Just now, TwoShedsWilson said:

This now something I want to play with. Now to locate the download. I'm also wating for this same thing with the PolyMega.

The download you mean is based on the official Apertis restore image 2020.1204.160451 named, "atari-flasher-ab-upgrade.img"
There are some fews and easy operations to do with the original Apertis restore image to create USB bootable Apertis disk or install Apertis on internal flash disk (permanent).

I don't know if it's the place here to explain details or not ? @justclaws Is it the place ?

April 16, 2021

Hello,

Apertis 202012.04 is running fine on Asus FX504 (Intel I5 8th Gen) except WIFI/Bluetooth audio, boot to bashboard OK, play Vault games OK

Wired Giga network is detected at start, I can change language (french for me), but can't update.

I wait for a RTL8822CE Wifi/Bluetooth card from China for tests on my laptop Maybe Wifi + Bluetooth audio in couples of weeks, I hope...

March 28, 2021

Hello to all,

As for you, it is impossible for me to do a classic installation of Windows10 from a USB key.

The installation stops after resizing the partitions with an error message that says that the copy of files is not possible.

Currently the only way I found to install Windows10 on the M.2 card is the following:
1/ Create a Windows10 x64 ISO image with Microsoft Media Tool creator.
2/ Copy the ISO image with WinToUSB with GPT/UEFI, and Legacy settings which will allow to access and resize the partitions.
3/ Start Windows10 from the usb disk, finalize the installation, and update Windows.
4/ Install Macrorit expert partition in Windows10 and clone the USB disk to the internal M.2 card by indicating to switch off the machine at the end of the operation.

5/ Once Windows10 is copied, unplug the USB disk, start the console by holding down the Esc key to access the UEFI parameters, select Boot Manager, then in the list that appears, Windows boot manager. Windows boots from the M.2 card

If it can help you I made a video (but in French only) where I realize this installation.

March 20, 2021

Hello,

REALTEK RTL8822CE drivers are present in Windows 20H2, but not in holder versions for what I have test

Most simple is download a fresh iso 20H2 whith Microsoft Media Creation Tool 20H2

If you need to install holder windows version, you can use this compatble drivers from Lenovo for REALTEK RTL8822CE Wifi card.

Realtek RTL8822CE WIFI Driver for Windows 10 64-bit (Version 1909, 2004) Tested well on 1809 (LTSC), 1909, 2004

Note : I don't use the .exe installer, I extract the drivers from .exe file with 7zip.

And after install it from Windows (I don't know for name for "Gestionnaire de Périphériques" in english) See below

March 17, 2021

Hello to all,

I would like to share with you the fruit of my work on my console.
I have two consoles, an Onyx with the secure boot removed (thanks to the mebre of the site that I thank again very much by the way), and a collector's edition that remains locked.

For these reasons I wanted to have a boot loader for each.
That's why I got interested in rEFInd and Grub2.

rEFInd is not supported with the secure boot enabled Luckily there is still Grub2 (native to Ubuntu) which is well supported.

So I directed my work in these two directions

The result is in video (but in French only, sorry), however despite the poor image quality, the software used are in English, and the manipulations are very basic, so I hope that everyone will find their way.

Have a good view and if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

Dowload links in videos descriptions

[ATARI VCS 800] USB Multi boot rEFInd VCS

WARNING !!! Do not try to perform these operations on your console without having deactivated the option: "Enforce Secure Boot". You could irreversibly damage your console

[ATARI VCS 800] eMMC (permanent) Multi boot rEFInd VCS

WARNING !!! Do not try to perform these operations on your console without having deactivated the option: "Enforce Secure Boot". You could irreversibly damage your console

[ATARI VCS 800] USB Multi boot Grub2 VCS

[ATARI VCS 800] eMMC (permanent) Multi boot Grub2 VCS

I hope you enjoy

BR

February 26, 2021

23 hours ago, zzip said:

This happens to me on my PC too. rEFInd is my bootloader, but every few months, the built-in system bootloader becomes primary and I have to reinstall rEFInd

Now it can be permanent

Just a correction with my last post, the update has to be done before copy/past rEFInd in both of partitions EFI (1) and EFI (2)

Each update erase rEFInd boot, except that, rEFInd stay on boot all time

February 25, 2021

?

It finally works Apear me permanent since lots of reboot from last night...

Explain:

I started from restore disk without updates (clean install eMMC)

I have copy/past rEFInd in both of partitions EFI (1) and EFI (2) 122.1MB partitions and replace by the fact the ATARI system BOOTX64.efi file

I have updated to latest Apertis version and connect online. No problems.

Since that, I have install Ubuntu 20.10, all is fine.

Got now Windows, Batocera, Ubuntu M.2, Apertis eMMC on start on rEFInd dashboard every boot

So happy !

BR

February 24, 2021

After 2 or 3 reboot rEFInd move to second place boot order behind ATARI in UEFI sad

At second reboot got message from Apertis that boot to UEFI where I discover the order change

February 24, 2021

Hello,

I discoverd rEFInd some weeks ago with/by Ubuntu 20.10 install. The Ubuntu version (apt install refind) is containing lot of less files than your shared img

I juste discover the version you share that is lot more files (realy interesting)

Good news, with this versions of rEFInd you share, I got permanent rEFInd boot from eMMC

I use the img you share, extract with 7zip the EFI folder

I'm on Windows and use DiskGenius to copy the EFi folder on root of the first partion of eMMC

Start permanently on rEFInd, we will can reinstall Apertis (to give an other chance) lol

@andymanone

Great job for you tests and shares

THANKS YOU SO MUCH BOTH

BR

Edit : if you want rEFInd wallpaper ATARI inspired see here

February 24, 2021

Hello,

I discoverd rEFInd some weeks ago with/by Ubuntu 20.10 install. The Ubuntu version (apt install refind) is containing lot of less files than your shared img

I juste discover the version you share that is lot more files (realy interesting)

Good news, with this versions of rEFInd you share, I got permanent rEFInd boot from eMMC

I use the img you share, extract with 7zip the EFI folder

I'm on Windows and use DiskGenius to copy the EFi folder on root of the first partion of eMMC

Start permanently on rEFInd, we will can reinstall Apertis (to give an other chance) lol

@andymanone

Great job for you tests and shares

THANKS YOU SO MUCH BOTH

BR

February 23, 2021

On 1/15/2021 at 10:30 PM, Charles Darwin said:

It's not about jumpers...you have to connect the pins of the bios chip. If you connect the wrong pins, you might kill your VCS. I warned you...it's a brute force method!!! I am no expert just a hobbyist!

Took me several hours, but finally I found a way:

Locate the BIOS chip on the motherboard (photo attached). The two pins you have to connect with e.g. a paper clip are marked with red dots.

Connect a keyboard to the VCS.

Switch it on.

Press the ESC button until the (limited) front page of the BIOS appears. Go to the line, where it says setup-utility. Dont press enter yet.

Now shorten the two pins of the bios chip

Next...press the Enter key on your keyboard...and continue shortening the two pins...for about 10 seconds. Stop connecing the pins.

After a few seconds the original BIOS opens...without a password.

It always displays the standard VCS BIOS settings regardless of what you changed the last time. But if you change a setting (e.g. UEFI boot to legacy boot) and press F10 afterwards and restart...the changes are persistent.

You cannot change the password though. It would need some more hacking...but as long as you just want to adjust a few settings once...the solution is good enough.

Again...dont do it...it can destroy your VCS

Hello Charles,

I wanted to thank you enormously for sharing your knowledge, I am stunned by what you have discovered! You are the "McGyver" of my childhood.

I confirm that I have access to the settings utility, that I can navigate in the different tabs, permanently activate or deactivate certain options like Enforce Secure Boot.
However, the list of the boot loader order has disappeared from Boot tab on v20 So I have for the moment temporarily remove the Atari system from eMMC to start rEFind on boot from it.

MANY MANY THANKS AGAIN

BR

February 1, 2021

2 hours ago, justclaws said:

I think this is what you describe... but the explanation is in French.
Very nice effort.

Hello to all

An important point rEFInd will not boot if you do not disable secure boot in the UEFI.

You have to install Ubuntu 20.10 which is what conditions rEFInd.

To install rEFInd open the terminal in Ubuntu and run the commands :

sudo add-apt-repository universe
Enter your password and validate

sudo apt-get update
wait and exit

Open Mozilla Firefox and write URL apt://refind
A window opens, choose APT and Validate.
Choose to install rEFInd, a window opens, confirm
Once finished you will be able to boot rEFInd

To do so, go to the UEFI and indicate rEFInd as the first at boot.

Source : refind [Wiki ubuntu-fr] (ubuntu-fr.org)

Hoping that this helps you

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January 13, 2021

Hello,

First sorry for my language, I'm not native English speaker and use a lot Google Translate

Is there some one who have install Windows 10 on internal M.2 card at moment ?

I have try multiple times, but failed every times Problem appear when Windows try to format partitions (not actived in reality) and install stop when try to start copy files on disk

I have ask support to ATARI but answer is not what I like

Hello, there!
Thank you for contacting us.
At the moment its is only possible to install the Windows OS on an external drive. Please follow the steps found in the following guide:
https://atarivcs.com/content/PC-Mode-Create-Windows-Boot-Drive.pdf
Best regards,
Atari VCS Support.

At moment I'm running Windows 10 from M.2 but in VHD mode, realy better than from external USB but certainly less good that native windows install I hope one day.

If you have advices for me ?

Thanks in advance

BR

Edit :

Sorry I see it's not the good place to post my message

I can't delete it from there

Does a moderator please could move it to the good place

My apologies

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