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On 8/27/2022 at 7:41 AM, Cousin Vinnie said:
Looking at this further, I saw a Tank Command CIB sell for over 400$ about 7-8 months ago. So yeah.... I think the list's games are undervalued as a whole.
I couldn't find any CIB in recent sales on ebay, but i saw two loose carts both for about 230, so I think you are probably right. I will update the price to reflect that (i'll make it 460, twice teh loose price) .
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On 8/28/2022 at 8:37 AM, -^CrossBow^- said:
If only we knew how in demand the need for Pokeys would have been back then. Imagine buying up their entire stock of BB carts at a $1 each back then. Everyone would think you were nuts at the time for doing so. And then in as little as 15 years later, you would be the one laughing as you sit on your throne of pokey chips!
That is a very interesting point. I wouldn't have thought about the value of the components of these games being something that might have a factor on their value today.
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On 8/26/2022 at 8:23 PM, Cousin Vinnie said:
Those…. Do not look accurate to me. The only game that has dropped in price during that time period is Water Ski.
pete rose sells for 100 plus, tomcat is way up there, super skateboarding’ too
Pete Rose and Tom Cat are both listed at around 58 on Price charting. Looking at the recent ebay that seems to be correct:
The only Pete Rose I could find that was completed listing that actually sold was Wata graded (not that that should matter) and it only went or 58.77:
Do you have a source for higher priced sales?
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nah. that is just old man hands. before it didn’t work at all no sound no image. zip. here is a better one.
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Bought this at a swap meet non working with a torn cable for 50 bucks.
Full clean and recap. fixed power cable and it is currently going through its shake down cruise.
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5 hours ago, Trebor said:
Circa '97, O'Shea had these titles brand new at 80 cents each:
-Asteroids
-Ballblazer
-Barnyard Blaster
-Basketball
-Centipede
-Dark Chambers
-Dig Dug
-Donkey Kong
-Donkey Kong Jr
-Galaga
-Hat Tricks
-Jinks
-Joust
-Mat Mania Challenge
-Meltdown
-Ms. Pac-Man
-Ninja Golf
-Pole Position
-RealSports Baseball
-Scrapyard Dog
-Tower Toppler
-Winter Games
-Xevious
holy crap. what a time to be alive, this is great thank you!
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just wanted to jump in here and say that the mod you helped me with for my intellivision is still working like a champ a year later. thanks for sharing your knowledge with us luddites.
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5 hours ago, GoldenWheels said:
I was about to say...anyone wants to sell me one for 182, hit your boy up! Xenophobe, Mario Bros, Kung Fu Master, Impossible Mission, all look undervalued to me too.
Thing with Tank Command IMO is it is one of those ones that is SO infrequently listed (at all) that every sale is semi-unique. Whereas all the others are fairly common occurrences throughout a year, even Mean 18 and Ikari.
I feel like some people are buying PAL copies without realizing it too (as the collector type never intends to play them anyway, just slab them or whatever). That throws a weird x factor in there of "bad" sales IMO.
your comment about pal is interesting I ran into that on intellivision too. my book does not break out the game prices by region. If it isn’t too much trouble could you tell me which titles this might apply to in particular? i would want to note that when i discuss those games. think that would be good information.
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8 hours ago, uczmeg said:
I've no idea on values, hopefully someone more knowledgable will be along soon, but I do know there are plenty of homebrew and found games that are worth more than most in your list.
for the moment i am trying to avoid too much conjecture, so i am using the 2002 pice guide as a source of truth. I am worried that any price i include for home brew would be viewed as my opinion. however, if someone has a resource that shows historical data for vectrex values I would love to take a look.
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Hi everyone thanks so much for all this feedback. I will go back through the titles mentions and update the prices as needed. @sixwould it be enough to list the 2002 prices adjusted for inflation? or is there something i would need to do on the 2022 column as well? I am not an economist.
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1 hour ago, CapitanClassic said:
Odd choice of words. Your data is accurate (I assume), to the price guide in that book. The issue is that the proce guide is inaccurate. I personally prefer a site like Pricecharting, since it supposedly tracks the actual sold listings on Ebay. It isnt perfect, but should give a decent approximation. With games for the Bally Astrocade though, most games have about 1-3 sales per year, so not many datapoints.
Another possibility is to just look at current Ebay, Amazon, etc. Buy-It-Now prices. Clearly the auction price would be less than those prices, or at least that is the max price.
Thanks for the advice. As it happens the fact that I was using price charting was a big reason that they were criticizing me. At any rate, what I wanted to look at was how the price has changed over the last 20 years. Price charting doesn't go back that far. I am using it for my 2022 pricing. Do you have any suggestions where I could find historical data for the astrocade that wont be considered wildly inaccurate by serious collectors? I apprecaite you taking the time to comment.
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1 minute ago, lawdawg710 said:
Not to be a huge critic, but honestly, if you aren't going to at least do basic research on the console and/or games so that the video is factually accurate, why would someone want to watch that?
There is so much misinformation about so many things already and people read/see it and then they too spread the disinformation.
I notice you say you have a lot of work to do for your videos, that is an understatement....I can't watch these types of things, especially since it does appear you made similar videos about other systems with similar critiues, yet still put out similar stuff only now for the Colecovision. Man not a fan, sorry!!
OK. Well, thanks for watching. Sorry it wasn't for you.
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4 minutes ago, TPR said:
Yes, because it really doesn't seem clear. I'm not exactly sure how you wind up with a list of the "most valuable" without including the "most rare" because those, in theory, are also the most valuable. And just because they are omitted in whatever book from 2002 you have, doesn't mean those titles shouldn't be listed in a video you're making again. Again, my two examples above, SHOULD be in your video if you really are making a list of the "25 Most Valuable ColecoVision Games." But if this isn't the kind of feedback you're looking for, just ignore it and carry on...
Yup. I get it. At the risk of making an excuse, I did not want to include a price for a game I didn't have a reference for, but there is no reason I couldn't cite a specific atari age forum member for assistance with research, just as easily as citing Billy Galaxy.
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Hi. I am making a series of videos on the value of classic video game libraries over the last 20 years..
I have already completed 3 and I have received some feedback from forum members that some of my data was not as accurate as it could have been. In the interest of improving this I wanted to share my current numbers here and get feedback from the collectors on the Atari 5200 Forum. My numbers are based on the Price Guide included in Billy Galaxy's book Collecting Classic video games. It was my belief that using these as my source of truth would avoid anyone arguing over the validity of these numbers, but that has not been the case. So, I'd like for you to take a look at what I have so far and, if you're interested, give me some feedback BEFORE I spend 20 hours making an 5200 video. Here are the numbers. This list is ranked by the games that had the largest change in value over time. It is not sorted by rarity. I want to include rarity for context, but it is not a list of "most rare games":
Title CIB Price 2002 CIB Price August 2022 Percentage increase System Publisher Bounty Bob Strikes Back $275.00 $1,497.00 444.36% 5200 Big 5 Decathalon $25.00 $107.00 328.00% 5200 Activision PItfall 2 $18.00 $75.00 316.67% 5200 Activision Zone Ranger $25.00 $90.00 260.00% 5200 Activision Montezuma's Revenge $70.00 $172.00 145.71% 5200 Parker Bros Megamania $28.00 $68.00 142.86% 5200 Activision Dreadnaught Factor $30.00 $69.00 130.00% 5200 Activision Keystone Capers $27.00 $59.00 118.52% 5200 Beamrider $35.00 $70.00 100.00% 5200 Activision Robotron 2084 $35.00 $63.00 80.00% 5200 Atari Zenji $65.00 $111.00 70.77% 5200 Activision Meteorites $255.00 $421.00 65.10% 5200 Electra Quest for Quintana Roo $70.00 $110.00 57.14% 5200 Sunrise Zaxxon $95.00 $130.00 36.84% 5200 Sega Gremlins $65.00 $82.00 26.15% 5200 Atari Frogger 2 $95.00 $116.00 22.11% 5200 Parker Bros K-Razy Shootout $100.00 $120.00 20.00% 5200 CBS Blueprint $55.00 $65.00 18.18% 5200 CBS 007 James Bond $65.00 $75.00 15.38% 5200 Parker Bros Mountain King $65.00 $75.00 15.38% 5200 CBS Gorf $50.00 $49.00 -2.00% 5200 CBS Star Wars: Arcade Game $85.00 $68.00 -20.00% 5200 Atari Rescue on Fractalis $65.00 $45.00 -30.77% 5200 Atari Mr Do's Castle $130.00 $83.00 -36.15% 5200 Parker Bros Star Wars: Death Star Battle $130.00 $76.00 -41.54% 5200 Atari Here is a link to a google sheet with these numbers. If you're interested, please leave me comments on any errors, discrepancies or inaccuracies and I will take that into consideration when working on the video.
Thank you.
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Hi. I am making a series of videos on the value of classic video game libraries over the last 20 years..
I have already completed 3 and I have received some feedback from forum members that some of my data was not as accurate as it could have been. In the interest of improving this I wanted to share my current numbers here and get feedback from the collectors on the Atari 7800 Forum. My numbers are based on the Price Guide included in Billy Galaxy's book Collecting Classic video games. It was my belief that using these as my source of truth would avoid anyone arguing over the validity of these numbers, but that has not been the case. So, I'd like for you to take a look at what I have so far and, if you're interested, give me some feedback BEFORE I spend 20 hours making an 7800 video. Here are the numbers. This list is ranked by the games that had the largest change in value over time. It is not sorted by rarity. I want to include rarity for context, but it is not a list of "most rare games":
Title CIB Price 2002 CIB Price August 2022 Percentage increase System Publisher Alien Brigade 15 113 653.33% 7800 Atari Scrapyard Dog 9 60 566.67% 7800 Atari Basketbrawl 15 74 393.33% 7800 Atari Midnight Mutants 25 123 392.00% 7800 Atari Ninja Golf 25 116 364.00% 7800 Atari Summer Games 15 52 246.67% 7800 Atari Ikari Warriors 39 135 246.15% 7800 Atari Fatal Run 25 82 228.00% 7800 Atari Commando 25 75 200.00% 7800 Atari Xenophobe 15 35 133.33% 7800 Atari Mean 18 Ultimate Golf 39 90 130.77% 7800 Atari Motor Psycho 25 57 128.00% 7800 Atari Planet Smashers 30 59 96.67% 7800 Atari Rampage 30 57 90.00% 7800 Activision Tank Command 98 182 85.71% 7800 Froggo Double Dragon 30 55 83.33% 7800 Activision Mario Bros. 15 24 60.00% 7800 Atari Sentinel 50 73 46.00% 7800 Atari Impossible Mission 25 31 24.00% 7800 Atari Super Skateboardin' 35 39 11.43% 7800 Absolute Water Ski 90 76 -15.56% 7800 Froggo Pete Rose Baseball 35 27 -22.86% 7800 Absolute F-18 Hornet 35 17 -51.43% 7800 Absolute Tomcat F-14 Flight Simulator 35 15 -57.14% 7800 Absolute Kung-Fu Master 35 14 -60.00% 7800 Activision Here is a link to a google sheet with these numbers. If you're interested please leave me comments on any errors, discrepancies or inaccuracies and I will take that into consideration when working on the video.
Thank you.
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Hi. I am making a series of videos on the value of classic video game libraries over the last 20 years..
I have already completed 3 and I have received some feedback from forum members that some of my data was not as accurate as it could have been. In the interest of improving this I wanted to share my current numbers here and get feedback from the collectors on the Astrocade Forum. My numbers are based on the Price Guide included in Billy Galaxy's book Collecting Classic video games. It was my belief that using these as my source of truth would avoid anyone arguing over the validity of these numbers, but that has not been the case. So, I'd like for you to take a look at what I have so far and, if you're interested, give me some feedback BEFORE I spend 20 hours making an Astrocade video. Here are the numbers. This list is ranked by the games that had the largest change in value over time. It is not sorted by rarity. I want to include rarity for context, but it is not a list of "most rare games":
Title CIB Price 2002 CIB Price August 2022 Percentage increase Rarity Ms Candyman $90.00 $615.03 583.37% Space Invaders $20.00 $85.38 326.90% Treasure Cove $85.00 $299.99 252.93% Muncher $65.00 $200.53 208.51% Sea Devil $105.00 $274.21 161.15% BioRythm $30.00 $60.50 101.67% Blast Droids $85.00 $169.20 99.06% Sea Wolf $20.00 $36.14 80.70% Pirates Chase $20.00 $33.00 65.00% Solar Conqueror $30.00 $44.97 49.90% Baseball & Tennis & Hockey & Handball $20.00 $28.54 42.70% Clowns & Brickyard $20.00 $27.24 36.20% Panzer Attack & Red Baron $20.00 $24.70 23.50% Artillery Duel $20.00 $22.00 10.00% Cosmic Raiders $45.00 $45.61 1.36% Galactic Invasion $20.00 $20.00 0.00% 280 Zzzap $20.00 $19.99 -0.05% Star Battle $25.00 $21.99 -12.04% Grand Prix $25.00 $18.75 -25.00% Space Fortress $20.00 $14.99 -25.05% Amazing Maze $20.00 $14.88 -25.60% Dog Patch $27.00 $19.95 -26.11% Astro Battle $25.00 $17.99 -28.04% Incredible Wizard $30.00 $21.17 -29.43% BASIC $75.00 $28.50 -62.00% Here is a link to a google sheet with these numbers. If you're interested please leave me comments on any errors, discrepancies or inaccuracies and I will take that into consideration when working on the video.
Thank you.
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Hi. I am making a series of videos on the value of classic video game libraries over the last 20 years..
I have already completed 3 and I have received some feedback from forum members that some of my data was not as accurate as it could have been. In the interest of improving this I wanted to share my current numbers here and get feedback from the collectors on the Vectrex Forum. My numbers are based on the Price Guide included in Billy Galaxy's book Collecting Classic video games. It was my belief that using these as my source of truth would avoid anyone arguing over the validity of these numbers, but that has not been the case. So, I'd like for you to take a look at what I have so far and, if you're interested, give me some feedback BEFORE I spend 20 hours making a Vectrex video. Here are the numbers. This list is ranked by the games that had the largest change in value over time. It is not sorted by rarity. I want to include rarity for context, but it is not a list of "most rare games":
Title CIB Price 2002 CIB Price August 2022 Percentage increase Rarity Melody Master $75 $200 166.67% Animaction $75 $195 160.00% Star Castle $85 $196 130.73% Spinball $50 $113 126.04% Polar Rescue $115 $243 111.62% Space Wars $55 $114 107.16% Fortress of Narzod $75 $154 105.00% Pole Position $105 $200 90.48% Star Trek: The Motion Picture $38 $69 81.32% Art Master $215 $350 62.79% Blitz! $31 $50 61.29% Starhawk $39 $63 60.44% Cosmic Chasm $35 $56 60.06% Bedlam $45 $69 52.71% Rip Off $34 $50 47.06% Scramble $39 $52 32.05% Armor Attack $42 $54 28.55% Clean Sweep $40 $50 25.83% Solar Quest $44 $53 19.32% Web Wars $75 $89 18.41% Hyperchase $42 $49 16.67% Berzerk $45 $51 12.22% Spike $52 $52 0.35% Heads-Up Action Soccer $65 $60 -7.69% 3D Mine Storm $500 $150 -70.04% Here is a link to a google sheet with these numbers. If you're interested please leave me comments on any errors, discrepancies or inaccuracies and I will take that into consideration when working on the video.
Thank you.
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Hi. I am making a series of videos on the value of classic video game libraries over the last 20 years..
I have already completed 3 and I have received some feedback from forum members like @TPR and @groundtrooper that some of my data was not as accurate as it could have been. In the interest of improving this I wanted to share my current numbers here and get feedback from the collectors on the Odyssey 2 Forum. My numbers are based on the Price Guide included in Billy Galaxy's book Collecting Classic video games. It was my belief that using these as my source of truth would avoid anyone arguing over the validity of these numbers, but that has not been the case. So, I'd like for you to take a look at what I have so far and, if you're interested, give me some feedback BEFORE I spend 20 hours making a Odyssey 2 video. Here are the numbers. This list is ranked by the games that had the largest change in value over time. It is not sorted by rarity. I want to include rarity for context, but it is not a list of "most rare games":
Title CIB Price 2002 CIB Price August 2022 Percentage increase Rarity Nimble Numbers Ned $10.00 $27.48 174.80% Atlantis $60.00 $131.30 118.83% Pachinko! $12.00 $25.00 108.33% Computer Intro! $17.00 $32.89 93.47% Attack of the Timelord $13.00 $24.99 92.23% Smithereens! $14.00 $26.48 89.14% Demon Attack $60.00 $112.00 86.67% Dynasty $10.00 $16.38 63.80% Keyboard Creations $14.00 $22.49 60.64% K.C.'s Krazy Chase! $12.00 $19.06 58.83% S.I.D. The Spellbinder $18.00 $28.43 57.94% I've Got Your Number $10.00 $13.58 35.80% Thunderball! $10.00 $13.50 35.00% P.T. Barnum's Acrobats! $18.00 $24.01 33.39% Type and Tell $15.00 $18.74 24.93% Killer Bees $35.00 $34.99 -0.03% Monkeyshines! $15.00 $13.47 -10.20% The Great Wall Street Fortune Hunt $50.00 $42.51 -14.98% Pick Axe Pete! $18.00 $15.06 -16.33% Q*bert $90.00 $75.00 -16.67% Turtles $50.00 $39.99 -20.02% Quest for the Rings $50.00 $39.99 -20.02% Conquest of the World $50.00 $39.37 -21.26% Frogger $95.00 $69.00 -27.37% Super Cobra $90.00 $65.00 -27.78% Power Lords $300.00 $195.51 -34.83% Here is a link to a google sheet with these numbers. If you're interested please leave me comments on any errors, discrepancies or inaccuracies and I will take that into consideration when working on the video.
Thank you.
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2 minutes ago, TPR said:
Next time, just do some super basic research and use forums like this as a resource instead of an audience base to spam a link for your videos. That's all you needed to do. Seriously...
copy that. I would honestly love to make follow up videos and highlight rarities and ephemera from
collectors here. Making the focus the rarity of the various classic systems. highlighting the knowledge and expertise and share it with people, such as myself who are not as versed in the minute details of each systems library.
For the rest of these series i will add an additional minute to the intro explaining exactly why i am trying to accomplish, detail my sources, clarify that it is not about rarity, and hopefully avoid any confusion or the semblance of me making these videos for any reason other than my own love of retro games and my own curiosity.
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2 minutes ago, TPR said:
OK, well, I appreciate the response. IMO your video was poorly researched clickbait. You can call out as many "excuses" as you'd like, but when I'm not the first person to give you the same feedback and you keep making the same videos after other people have told you the same things, it's clear to me you're just making clickbait videos and don't really want, or know how to process feedback, especially since you specifically asked for it.
Sooo... if you didn't want to hear what people thought, and were just going to argue it, why did you ask for it?
I will not be wasting my time with any of your future videos.
It's Meteoric Shower. Again, had you actually read or paid attention to the post I made above you would know this. But clearly you don't seem to actually put any effort or attention to detail into anything you do.
OK. well thanks for taking the time to critique it. Guess i have a lot to work on.
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43 minutes ago, TPR said:
Well, since you asked for feedback...
I'm sorry but I'm just not a fan of videos like this. It would appear that the creator actually knows very little about the ColecoVision. Games like Meteoric Shower, which is probably the most difficult game to find a loose cart of, let alone a boxed copy, isn't even on the list. And other titles like Super Sketch, another one of the most expensive and hard to find games, is also not on this list. I can see from the other videos you have made about Atari and Intellivision that other people also gave you the same feedback about those videos a well, but it would appear you didn't listen to any of it? While you claim this may not be about "the most rare games" in those threads, then what exactly is it? I mean, a title like Meteoric Shower and Super Sketch are going to be two of the most rare AND most valuable, yet missing from your video just makes this seem very amateur.
Anyone who would have done slightly more research would know this, since there is even a "rarity guides" published IN THIS FORUM made by ColecoVision enthusiasts, maybe that would have been a better start to your research rather than going to some book in 2002 which is going to be completely and totally out of date, or a site like Price Charting, which I personally find to be a LAUGHABLE resource for actual going prices of games, but that's just my opinion.
IMO... Using a reference from 2002, which appears to already have erroneous information, to base your video off of to make a video TODAY, just seems like a really bad decision. I mean, your book said Word Feud was nearly $700 in 2002??? That seems very unlikely and questionable.
The video is also confusing. It doesn't really seem to be clear if the prices are all complete in box or loose carts. Sometimes he says a "boxed copy" sometimes he doesn't.
And even still, let's assume the pries are just boxed copies, he claims a game like Q*Berts Qubes is currently worth $223 but in a ten second search on eBay I can see a recent boxed copy sold for $300. So which is it? The video claims that Motocross Racer is worth $163 but the most recent one on eBay sold for $75. Again, the video claims Chuck Norris is currently worth $158 but the most recent eBay sale was $324. It took me less than 3 minutes to research all of these current prices. And let's be honest, those prices could be completely outdated in a few months anyway.
My other issue about the video is that it is titled "25 Most Valuable ColecoVision Games" yet there is a picture of a Mr. Do! cartridge on the thumbnail:
Mr, Do! is totally common game and not even on your list of the top 25 most valuable games. Given that is the very first thing we see about the video, how are we expected to take it seriously? (For your Intellivision video you used Burgertime in the thumbnail, yet another not valuable game and one that doesn't appear in that video either.) Your videos just seem like poorly researched clickbait.
On a positive note, the list of games included is not "bad" it's just not complete and the pricing doesn't seem totally accurate.
But really, what I don't understand is this is now the THIRD video like this you've made, and the other two were met with the exact same feedback I'm giving you now, so why didn't you USE THIS FORUM as a resource? I can see you've been an AtariAge forum member for well over a year, so a simple thread asking "Hey guys, what are the most rare and valuable ColecoVision games? I'm working on a video regarding this subject" and I assure you that your data would have been far more accurate than going to "rarityguide" or "pricecharting" for reference, which people have told you in those other threads was a mistake as well.
I'm sorry, I just feel video like this don't really HELP the community or collectors at all and if anything it gives people an unrealistic idea of what the value of something may or may not be.
That's my feedback that you asked for and I'm just being completely honest here. Hope it helps.Hi. I appreciate the feedback. I just want to start by saying that this was not a “most rare games” video. So any “more rare” games that were not included were due to the fact that that was not the subject of the video.
Secondly, I did not ask for anyones input because i was trying to avoid a situation exactly like this where someone says “this is just your opinion”. I chose to use a contemporary source for the 2002 and then to compare that to modern prices via price charting.
any missing titles was due to a limitation in the data sets . I made my sources very clear and at no point presented myself as an expert.
I am just a retro game fan who has an old price guide.
As you say i have responded like this to other commentary. In the future perhaps i will make a “most rare” series and will come back for input. But that was not the thesis of these videos.
I will have about six more of those and they will all be the same. prices from the 2002 price guide compared to price charting.
in my opinion that is the most objective way to do it.
i truly do appreciate all of your comments. I am a collector, but not at the same level as you and I certainly would defer to you knowledge and would be happy to include your insight in a future video that expressly discusses rarity and sites atari age as a source.
also, the thumbnail with common games is just because that is what i have on hand. i like burger time…and don’t own a copy of meteorites.
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Hi. I have spent about 20 hours putting together this video and I hope you enjoy it. I took a price guide published in 2002 and compared the prices of the most valuable games listed there to today. I wanted to see if the values changed much in 20 years. Let me know what you think.
25 Most Valuable Colecovision Games (From 2002 to 2022)
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On 8/22/2022 at 6:13 PM, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said:
There were a few 2002 prices that may have been off a little, but i liked the video. I think the prices for 2022 were right on except i think Spiker & Super Series may have been light. Well thought out video.
Thanks Tecnohed!
Thank you. I appreciate that.
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On 8/20/2022 at 3:27 PM, cmadruga said:
The S&P 500 cumulative return between 2002-2022 in the US was 201.54%.
I counted just 6 games on the video that beat that.
Apparently, people hoarding Intellivision games over the last few years in hopes of making a buck did not actually do so well.
S & P Stocks don't let you play a few rounds of Stadium Mud Buggies tho
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I will site this and use this screenshot in the video (if that's ok with you) doing so will put Ninja Golf and Scrapyard dog at the top of the list for sure.