I think I know where you are Chris,inbetween "I wanna have a say,because I read some docs about Jaguar" and actually programing,Those two don't mix well,your comment on Raptor basic shows me you don't understand what Raptor can do in basic,let alone in asm or C,this leaves with you cannot program and have tried numerous times and failed.Just being honest with you,if you would stop saying things that all programmers know is not true things would be easier for you.