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  1. I made an interesting discovery today with my SIDE2 Cartridge. First some basics - I own a 600XL in stock configuration, with 1064 expansion, a 800XL in stock configuration and my "daily driver", a 130XE that I freshly extended with a U1M from Lotharek this week and that has a built-in a SIO2SD that I added a long time ago. I also own a SIDE2 cartridge since 2015, but the SIO2SD i built into the 130XE was always "good enough" and familiar, so I never used the SIDE2 much. Yesterday I decided to give the SIDE2 a go together with the U1M and updated it's really ancient firmware with the most recent one from FJC. Had a few issues with that because UFLASH didn't like the Cart at first, but the alternative way with SIDE2.COM worked fine and after the update UFLASH also started to work. Flashed the SIDE2OSS ROM. So far everything works great on the 130XE with U1M. Today I wondered what happens if I use the SIDE2 with the other machines and discovered an interesting difference between the 800XL and the 600XL with 1064. As I had not used both machines for a longer period of time this was intended to also test the machines to make sure they still work fine - I loaded the CF Card with games and digged the machines out of storage. I am aware that the 64K of a stock machine is only enough for basics, so I didn't expect too much. I first tested the 600XL and everything worked surprisingly well - I could run games using the SIDE Loader. I tried SpartaDOS X - everything was accessible and I could even run SIDECFG and switch the ROMs: Tried UFLASH and got a "179 Memory conflict", but that was expected. If I remove the 1064, the SIDE2 is not able to run at all. So far, so good. The 600XL seems to work fine. Then I tried the 800XL and to my surprise it behaved differently - the SIDE Loader was not able to detect the CF card properly: I then switched to SpartaDOS X - after turning on the machine, drivers were loaded, but no partitions visible or accessible: If I reset the machine with the reset button, I can access the CF card and the partitions on it: But trying to run SIDECFG gives me a "179 Memory Conflict" here. I first thought that the machine might have hardware problems, but it works fine otherwise - the builtin memory test is fine and I was able to run several games from an external SIO2SD without problems. So the hardware of the 800XL also seems to work fine to me. But now I'm lacking an explanation, why the machines behave differently. The only idea I got after a lot of googling: Does anybody know if the SIDE2 is able to use the 16KB RAM of the 600XL that the 1064 disables by default? From my understanding it should be the only difference between the two machines and 16k more memory might really be the big difference here. Otherwise I am lost what the problem of the 800XL is, that the SIDE2 behaves so different with the same amount of memory while everything else seems to work. Would appreciate any help in getting this sorted out. The 600XL and the 800XL were my first two computers, so I want to keep them in stock configuration and working as good as possible.
  2. While browsing the web, I found this picture: It looks like someone is working on remake of full size 800XL motherboard. Source: https://ezcontents.org/atari-800xl-pcb-remake https://twitter.com/ezcontents Did anybody heard about it before or know this person?
  3. Dear Atari fellow, I wonder in what form the 1985 special packs were sold in the UK. On 16 February 1985 PCN announced that packs would be available in the UK, to clear the warehouses before the arrival of the 130XE. On 27 April 1985, Silica Shop offered 3 different packs. (see details below) The question is: what did these packs look like? Was it just a promotion, the components of the packs were just sold as normal, but with a discount? Were they put together in a special box (like the "Dixon exclusive" packs later with the 65XE)? Was there a special box, bag, packaging? I ask this question to complete the Atari 8-bit FAQ. I know there were other packs, later, or in other countries. I'm specifically trying to get some information about the 1985 UK packs... On 16-Feb-1985, an article in Personal Computer News reads: "Depreciation seems to start work on the 800XL before it even crosses the counter. The machine's price was virtually halved by Christmas last year, and two packages due to be put together this month effectively bring it down again. Its price at the moment is 129 GBP. The first package will give you an 800XL, 1050 disk drive, Home Filing Manager and a disk-based adventure for 249.99 GBP. The second puts together the 800XL, a 1010 recorder and Pole position for 129.99 GBP. [...] If dealers start to split these packages [...]" On 27-Apr-1985, a full page ad of "Silica Shop" - one of the largest Atari reseller in the UK - lists: Atari 600XL entertainment pack 600XL + Donkey Kong (cart) + Qix (cart) + CX40 = 69 GBP Atari 800XL and recorder pack 800XL + 1010 + Pole position & demo program (assumption: cassette TX8034, "Pole position" & "Atari graphics demonstration") + Invitation to prg #1 = 129 GBP Atari 800XL and disk drive pack 800XL + 1050 + Home filing manager (diskette) + The payoff (diskette) & demo program (diskette) = 269 GBP Thanks in advance for your contributions.
  4. First post on here. I've assembled 2 SDrive Maxs, and powered them externally and via the SIO port at times. The SIO port power at Atari startup is inconsistent. This is I think what causes graphical glitches that go away once you click on something. The GOOD part of the SIO 5v power is it comes on when the machine comes on (also one less wire). Overall I would just prefer the power to be external, but I still want the SDrive to come on when the machine boots up. My idea is to use an arduino nano to manage the powerup by detecting the SIO 5v, and then allowing power to the SDrive only when the SIO 5v is active. I can't believe you have read this far thank you. Since the SIO 5v is inconsistent at Atari startup, I have the nano wait before attempting to power on the SDrive. All of this actually worked. Except it didn't because the SDrive gets enough power for the display, but not enough for the Card Reader to work. Current power supply is 5.0v 4A (Actually measures around 5.15 to 5.20 volts) Hooked up directly it works perfectly, nice bright screen, SDcard works, everything fine, I just don't want to have to unplug it every time. Could I just install a switch, yes! Unfortunately this method occurred to me while looking for a small switch in my stuff and i want it to work. My next steps are to -try a power supply with higher voltage -try reading the voltage off the transistor more carefully -try power supply with higher amps? -hope one of you all has a great solution for this
  5. My saga started when a friend gave me their 800XL, turned out it had problems. Most of which was solved by a PC Tech friend who basically recapped everything. The motherboard is now perfect. Even after buying a new mylar, my friend discovered some of the keys on the keyboard are broken. Neither one of us are keyboard experts, I would love to keep the 800XL as original as possible. Can anyone help me? I need someone to look at the keyboard and figure out what is wrong.
  6. A while back a friend gave me their Atari 800 XL computer, to be honest they didn't know it worked or not. After I got it I managed to get a modern power supply and TV hookup only to find out that some of the caps went bad. I have another friend who is a PC Tech who loves anything retro. His collection of classic computers should belong in a museum he has so many including a full Apple II set from monitor to printer. So after getting the closest match to what he needed and a replacement mylar for the keyboard he went to work. He fixed the motherboard where nearly every cap was bad, he got it working. The Q Bert game I picked up earlier actually works. Unfortunate the keyboard is another matter. Which is finally the reason for this post as in "I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO?". Not everything works, and there are parts missing. Really Atari Computer People what should I do?
  7. I'm using ErgodoxEZ keyboard connected via usb and every time when I try typing something in the emulator (basic), my characters are getting lost in terms of that I need to press key multiple times to get a character on the screen. Is this a known issue or it's just my emulator config which is not tuned well enough to handle usb keyboards ? I'd appreciate if someone would post config here which is actually working to emulate 800xl. thanks !
  8. We have new shipping options, Using couriers to ship to Miami (Air and Sea) and from Miami using Usps or similar. for the Sea option saves a lot of money to send larger packages (they Charge by the cubic feet) So decided to list some Hardware on Shipping Boxes. Thia form of Shipping avoids the dreadfull customs officers who opens every game, they can do that in a whole shipping container. But they take a while to arrive, (even the air option). I can also sell individually or several different items. Boxes will be protected with cardboard outside (no shipping stickers on your original box) Shipping costs not included, need the address to quote. Vcs Cartridge Adaptor, Sealed box of 4 160$ (50$ Each) without shipping. ColecoVision Expansion Module #1 Sealed box of 4, 220$, 65$ each without shipping. Atari Trak-Ball Controller (made in Mexico) Shipping boxes are not sealed (tape glue dissolved) and the shipping box do not provide enough protection, so is best to sell them by unit. 70$ each without shipping. Compumate Box of 6 (Consecutive serial numbers) 600$, 120$ each without shipping. cp/m card for apple II New & Sealed, 180$ without shipping. New Additions: Atari 410 Tape Drive, Sealed box of 2 (Probably need a rubber belt replacement) 120$ without shipping. Sealed Box of Two Atari 5200 Consoles, probably the shorter box model 3500$ Shipped OBO. Not Common at all from Venezuela. Sealed Box of 2 800XL 400$ Plus Shiping. Box of 2 New The Proggrammer Set for Atari XL 80$ Plus Shipping.
  9. Hey there, I recently picked up a really nice looking PAL 800XL on Ebay in the UK. This thing looks mint but it was sold with an issue with the audio volume being low. I did some research before buying (on here) and it looked like the likely candidate could be a dodgy LM358N audio amp chip. So I took the risk and bought the machine and ordered some new LM358N chips I then took the old one out and replaced with a brand new one. And the result, the audio volume is no better, well maybe it's a little better. It's also slightly louder through the RF modulator and the video port but nothing drastic. I've reseated the POKEY just in case that made a difference, but it didn't. So has anyone got any ideas what else I could look at to the problem? Thanks in advance for any help. Ely
  10. Hello everyone! I'm new here. I finally have a space where I can pull out my old 800xl and 1050 drive to set up a retro computer area. With the exception of a few corrupted disks, everything is surprisingly in good order. I put things on hold until I get the replacement power cord for the 800xl. From what I understand, the "ingot" PSU I have is a potential MB killer. It seemed like a good idea to update the PSU for the other devices I have, including the 1050 drive. But after scouring the various forums, it sounds to me as if I should just let things be if they're working. Would everyone agree? Is it just the 5V power source that can potentially fry components? Thanks in advance!
  11. Hi all, I have 3 800XL machines, 1 of them works flawless and is stock. Nr. 2 has a faulty OS-Rom, and very likely a problem in it's keyboard. 3rd 800XL is at this moment a 'donation' device. With the Sys-Check v2.2 (by @tf_hh) showed me a good RAM, but a bad OS-ROM. My first question is: Upgrading this machine with the Ultimate 1MB, does this replace the OS-rom entirely?? 2nd question is: as far as I know my keyboard can be repaired by replacing a mylar in it. (keyboard type is not a PCB, it is entirely encased in a metal sheet) Follow up on Q2 is: where to get a mylar in the EU? Thanks for answers! André - PE1PQX
  12. Just finished a huge update of the XL Gamebase *previously called Atarimania by Sparky (HardmanM). https://mega.nz/folder/WoYz0Iaa#aXsTnQXyz_7e1BW2ZJpZ8w
  13. In short a PC Tech friend has been working on my Atari 800XL. He managed to get it working, he also discovered the keyboard has an issue. Thankfully I found that replacement Mylar tracing on 8 Bit Classics. But I need some help from the Atari Computer fans here. My friend wants to replace the caps to be on the safe side. I was able to find cap kits on console5, but nothing for the 800XL directly. They do have one for the 600XL and 800 which one of those 2 would be the best option?
  14. In short a PC Tech friend has been working on my Atari 800XL. He managed to get it working, he also discovered the keyboard has an issue. Thankfully I found that replacement Mylar tracing on 8 Bit Classics. But I need some help from the Atari Computer fans here. My friend wants to replace the caps to be on the safe side. I was able to find cap kits on console5, but nothing for the 800XL directly. They do have one for the 600XL and 800 which one of those 2 would be the best option?
  15. Hello everyone. I'm writing this from Japan. The 800XL I bought from the US on ebay was delivered today. I did a self-check and everything was fine, but then I went to the bathroom and when I came back, the screen was completely black. When I turned the power back on, this screen appeared. https://twitter.com/kurosawa6502/status/1442422599942688775 I don't have any repair skills, so I cleaned the base with IPA. Of course, the situation did not change. I don't have the skills to repair it, so I would like to hire a professional to do the repair, and I would like to know if you have any recommendations. It's depressing to send something back to the US that arrived today from the US. Kurosawa
  16. Hello, looking for a good quality, double-sided photo of the atari 64k memory card (atari 64kmr) for the 1090 xl expansion system. It would help me for to be able to redo this board. or better someone here maybe has the "gerber" file to recreate the PCB ? I have an atari 1090xl expansion system, but I have no cards to put in it ? Thanks!!
  17. I performed the 800XL S-Video mod (described here at post #8) remove C56, lift C54, connect R67/68 to chroma pin. I verified everything and checked continuity, but I'm getting a weird result: On my TCL TV, the RF output is still in color but looks worse, and the AV input is snowy, high contrast B&W and rapidly scrolls. On a portable LCD screen, the S-Video is clear but B&W. (My Apple IIe also displays in B&W on this screen.) I know that some TVs just can't display video from older devices, but because the RF is still in color, I think I must have done something wrong. Can anyone suggest what to do next? If it matters, I'm powering the computer from a USB charger (5.3V 2A) In a YouTube video (here) they also remove C55, should I be doing this? Thanks for any help!
  18. Hi Everyone. Are there shrink-wrapped new hardware solutions on the market that do the job of a 600/800XL? And a 1050 disk drive? I have heaps of cartridges & 5.25" games which I can't use now as my 600XL & 1050 are both dead. I am not a hardware literate so I can't do maintenance on these. I was vaguely interested in the Brewing Academy's 1088XEL/XLD options, but they offer a heap of hardware options which I can't navigate. I also can't find in Australia any second-hand 600/800XLs for sale. Any help would be appreciated. cheers, Jonathan
  19. So I'm a new owner of a previously owned 800 XL. Along with it came several issues of Antic(unfortunately without their disks). One issue was Volume 3, Number 4 from August 1984. The Game of the Month, Creepy Caverns, was printed in 2 parts for "the benefit of readers who have only 16K of RAM.", according to the instructions under "How to use the program with (minimum 32K) DOS systems". But the 800XL I have has 64K. So how do I type this in if I don't have this limitation? I had first thought to just type them both in one after the other, but as I was looking at both listings I noticed they have some duplicate line numbers. I'm guessing though that if I just typed them both in, then there might be problems since there can be only one of a single line number. Typing one and then typing the other would overwrite the one before it. This is a huge shot in the dark, asking this question here. I don't exactly expect anyone to have an answer for me, but with me being a new user, any help I can get is appreciated.
  20. I'm looking for empty 800XL case and keyboard or non working computer. Shipped to Chicago. Let me know what you have.
  21. Not sure if this is a known variant (I assume it must be), but the yellow silkscreen is not something I've seen before (in ten years of fixing and upgrading dozens of 800XLs). NOS boxed NTSC machine.
  22. SOLD Decided to thin the herd a little bit. Selling my NTSC Atari 800XL. It is the Hong Kong version. Fully socketed, and has Alps keyboard! Includes the following: - Ultimate 1Mb installed, updated to 3.10 FJC firmware - UAV Rev D for fantastic video output - Original safe (non-ingot) power supply Everything in great condition, keyboard feels excellent! Will be happy to include some more pictures if needed. Looking for $250 plus shipping from Charlotte, NC, US. Can include Side 2 cart for additional $50, in like-new condition.
  23. Hi All, I’ve recently worked on an Atari 400 and 800xl and installed the new Sophia 2 chips with dvi connections. Both are outputting great video now. My 400 had some issues at first running cartridges but after a few tries and cleaning some carts off it worked. My 800xl is another story though. I can’t get a single cartridge to start. Ones that I already tested as working on the 400 do not work on the 800xl. I ran the self test and all items pass. Wondering how to test the cartridge slot itself. I did use some canned air to blow out the port as well as a little 99.8 isopropyl. Anyone have any thoughts to verify if the cartridge slot is working? Are there any continuity points I can check from the cartridge pins? Any suggestions appreciated. GabeShack
  24. I pulled out of storage some Atari data disks formatted with DOS 2.5. The first few times I accessed the disks on my 800XL/1050 combo I was able to perform a directory listing and open any data files (print to screen). For some reason I now cannot access anything on these disks. No file list, nothing. I sometimes get an Error 138 when trying to read the directory on one of these disks with MyDos. I can access many other disks with no problem. I tried using Copymate to preform a sector copy, but it found no data. Any ideas what's going on here or what else I can try?
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