Omegamatrix Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Would like to know if the ZiMAG version (Cosmic Corridor) was a hack of the Home Vision, the Bit Corp or the Puzzy version, btw. I'll take a look with a comparision disassembly. The key in this one will be the garbage data. Yes, and I'd be curious to know if Decathalon is FE bankswitching, and Space Shuttle too... Seems likes there are a few HES carts that need dumping as well. Decathlon is FE and there are two versions of Space Shuttle, one FE and one F8. Yep. It's the Secam verisions that haven't been dumped that I'm wondering about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 David Winter sent me these three prototypes that test differently. Tempest 2600.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Interesting. Thanks! Omega or Nukey, Could you compare them with similar ROMs in the V5 Collection? I don't notice any differences. Edited October 11, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 The Gravitar rom is an 100% match to: Gravitar (04-12-1983) (Atari, Dan Hitchens) (CX2685) (Prototype).bin The RealSports Football is an 100% match to: RealSports Football (Football II) (1982) (Atari, Alan J. Murphy, Robert Zdybel) (CX2668) (Prototype).bin The Sorcerer's Apprentice is a brand new rom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Okiedokie. Thanks, Omega. Edited October 12, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Okiedokie. http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=1142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think I had David's Sorcerer's Apprentice prototype in the collection I posted. I know I reviewed it: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/sorcerersapp/sorcererproto.htm Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Then these two must be 100% identical: Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype).bin Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype) a.bin Omega, is this correct? If so, why exactly would David's version be a brand new ROM? BTW: David's version is the [a] version. Edited October 12, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Then these two must be 100% identical: Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype).bin Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype) a.bin Omega, is this correct? If so, why exactly would David's version be a brand new ROM? BTW: David's version is the [a] version. They are in fact different I think I had David's Sorcerer's Apprentice prototype in the collection I posted. I know I reviewed it: http://www.atariprot...rcererproto.htm Tempest Yes, it was called "Sorcerer's Apprentice (David Winter)". Edited October 12, 2009 by Wickeycolumbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 They are in fact different Really? Then where the heck did the SA rom I have come from? I could have sworn that was the one David sent me a few years ago (I had it marked as coming from him). Weird! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) They are in fact different Really? Then where the heck did the SA rom I have come from? I could have sworn that was the one David sent me a few years ago (I had it marked as coming from him). Weird! Tempest I guess they did not see it (as it was not included in ROM's collection), but yes, the "Sorcerer's Apprentice (David Winter)" in your ROM package is the same as the 'new' ROM. Edited October 12, 2009 by Wickeycolumbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Then these two must be 100% identical: Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype).bin Sorcerer\'s Apprentice (1983) (Atari, Jerome Domurat, Peter C. Niday, Robert Vieira) (CX26109) (Prototype) a.bin Omega, is this correct? If so, why exactly would David's version be a brand new ROM? BTW: David's version is the [a] version. Hey, that [a] versision is the same as David's rom! However, the [a] verision is not included the V5 collection of the roms. I thought all of the protos were put in there. The other rom is different. Edited October 12, 2009 by Omegamatrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Please don't get me wrong. I already added David's ROM to my V6 collection and renamed it with an [a] The other proto was in the V5 collection. What I would like to know if the [a] version is 100% identical to the other version. In other words: are there any differences between the two ROMs I posted above? Wicky says: yes, there are. Edited October 12, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Please don't get me wrong. I already added David's ROM to my V6 collection and named it with an [a] What I would like to know if the [a] version is 100% identical to the other version I posted. The ROMs attached to post 758 are different Edited October 12, 2009 by Wickeycolumbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 That's what I wanted to know. Ok, then: - Either David gave Tempest a different SA ROM. - Or Tempest mad a mistake by thinking it was David's ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 That's what I wanted to know. Ok, then: - Either David gave Tempest a different SA ROM. - Or Tempest mad a mistake by thinking it was David's ROM. Rom, Wickey is absolutely correct about the roms being different. My post was a little unclear, but that is what I meant too. Looking at the 2600 posted Tempest posted way back, it is clear that David's SA rom is in there. However the other SA rom is not. Tempest has never seen it, so it must have come into your collection from somewhere else. Rom, you might want to also double check the collection since David's rom got missed as there might be other protos that got missed also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.winter Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Just a shorter to say that I have only one SA prototype, which is the one I posted a few days ago, and which is the one reviewed by Tempest on his site. Edited October 13, 2009 by david.winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 So the proto I added to my collection back then wasn't from Tempest and I forgot to add Tempest's version back then? Hmmm. I'm certain I added every single ROM from Tempest not already in my collection. I remember spending an awful lot of time in doing that. Anyway: two different proto's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 So the proto I added to my collection back then wasn't from Tempest and I forgot to add Tempest's version back then? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Weird. Something else: Omega, do you know if this ROM http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?MENU=2&VERSION_ID=12099 truly belongs to the NTSC version of K-Tel Vision's Vulture Attack? It's the only K-Tel Vision game without Funvision logo on screen, which seems strange to me. http://www.atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-TYPE_CODE-G-EDITEUR_ID-2053-SUPPORT_ID--TRI-SOFT_LIB-Page-1-SENS-ASC-TRI-SOFT_LIB-VISU-SCREEN.html Also, David's Jungle Hunt and Alpha Beam with Ernie still need to be posted and studied. Edited October 14, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Weird. Something else: Omega, do you know if this ROM http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?MENU=2&VERSION_ID=12099 truly belongs to the NTSC version of K-Tel Vision's Vulture Attack? It's the only K-Tel Vision game without Funvision logo on screen, which seems strange to me. http://www.atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-TYPE_CODE-G-EDITEUR_ID-2053-SUPPORT_ID--TRI-SOFT_LIB-Page-1-SENS-ASC-TRI-SOFT_LIB-VISU-SCREEN.html Also, David's Jungle Hunt and Alpha Beam with Ernie still need to be posted and studied. I've gathered a couple of posts I did in the past: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/103737-2600-rom-comparisions-and-dumps/page__view__findpost__p__1437104 http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/117919-have-any-of-you-seen-this-before-interesting-vulture-attack-label/page__view__findpost__p__1424782 I know I've dumped Vulture Attack before, but I'm far away from my Atari collection at the moment. David's roms will certainly be added and checked, just really busy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks for the links, Omega. I'll study them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Ok, it's indeed without Funvision logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Also, David's Jungle Hunt and Alpha Beam with Ernie still need to be posted and studied. I had a little bit of time over the weekend to go through Alpha Beam. The differences are in some colors, and length of some events.: Colors: - The color in the title screen text "Alpha Beam", "© Atari 1983", and "© CCW 1983" is slightly brighter in the proto. - The color for Earth and Saturn are slightly darker in the proto. - The color of Ernies pants are green in the proto, and blue in the released version - The color for the transport beam is brighter in the proto. Also both the top and bottom beams share the same values (albeit from different tables) in the proto. In the released version the top and bottom beam use different values. Time: - In a timed event (i.e. game variation #9), if you only make it part way back to Earth, the screen where you see a planet lasts a little bit longer in the proto. - The amount of time after the music stops, while Ernie is still waving, lasts longer in the proto. - The time to a checkpoint to cut the volume comes sooner. This happens after collecting no fuel in a timed event, or making it only part of the way back in a timed event. Alpha Beam With Ernie (PAL proto).zip No time for Jungle Hunt or Cosmic War yet. Probably not soon either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) ... Edited November 16, 2009 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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