Rom Hunter Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) From your current list remove Air Raid, Gauntlet, General Retreat, Karate T Handle, Magicard. You should add the Mystique double enders, Jungle Fever/Knight on Town (Playaround) PAL and Inca Gold. Holy shit. This truly is an amazing find. It's the same game as this one, right? http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...VERSION_ID=8093 Must be a Funvision original. That's their first label design. And this cart also explains the subtitle mentioned between brackets on their Spider Monster instructions: http://atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?TYPE_...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0 It's PAL, isn't it? Edited April 8, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) Using your definition of up to 3 knowns carts, there are only 6 NTSC R10s and some of these have not been found yet. On the other hand, there are about 20 PAL R10s (not including homevision)!Yep. And that's the way it's supposed to be. There are simply more rare PAL carts than NTSC carts. List updated. http://atarimania.com/lst_soft.php?MENU=2&...n_sauver=Search I'm still not sure about removing the original label Magicard and Gauntlet. Also, I'm not sure about adding the PAL PlayAround double-enders. Edited April 8, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) On the other hand, there are about 20 PAL R10s (not including homevision)! So PAL R 10s are really about an R 8 Edited April 9, 2008 by pangasinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 So PAL R 10s are really about an R 8 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 From your current list remove Air Raid, Gauntlet, General Retreat, Karate T Handle, Magicard. You should add the Mystique double enders, Jungle Fever/Knight on Town (Playaround) PAL and Inca Gold. Holy shit. This truly is an amazing find. It's the same game as this one, right? http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...VERSION_ID=8093 Must be a Funvision original. That's their first label design. And this cart also explains the subtitle mentioned between brackets on their Spider Monster instructions: http://atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?TYPE_...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0 It's PAL, isn't it? Its not mine, so I can't answer your questions. The owner is a member here and will answer your questions later in the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 I'm still not sure about removing the original label Magicard and Gauntlet. Also, I'm not sure about adding the PAL PlayAround double-enders. Well, if you limit it to 3, then those should be removed as there are more than 3. As for the Playaround double enders, there is only one to be added, along with the Mystique double enders. As more are found, these can easily be removed, but as things stand, they should be in for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 (edited) As for the Playaround double enders, there is only one to be addedI don't understand. There are more of them: http://www.atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-...I-SOFT_LIB.html Shouldn't they be added too? Its not mine, so I can't answer your questions. The owner is a member here and will answer your questions later in the year.Yes, I know. Edited April 9, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 As for the Playaround double enders, there is only one to be addedI don't understand. There are more of them: http://www.atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-...I-SOFT_LIB.html Shouldn't they be added too? http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...=63646&st=0 You're right, there are 2 that should be added. There are four that have been found but 2 of those have more than 3 known to exist. Jungle Fever knight on town and Philly Flasher/Cathouse blues should be added. You can add the 2 taht have not been found once they surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Ok, I added three PAL PlayAround double-enders now (3 or less known to exist). It's interesting to see that the PAL ones that are still not found were actually found in PAL under the Mystique brand. Makes you wonder if PAL Bachelor Party / Gigolo and Bachelorette Party / Burning Desire from PlayAround really do exist. About Gauntlet and the first label type of Magicard: Are you sure that more than 3 of each are known to exist? Edited April 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 Ok, I added three PAL PlayAround double-enders now (3 or less known to exist). It's interesting to see that the PAL ones that are still not found were actually found in PAL under the Mystique brand. Makes you wonder if PAL Bachelor Party / Gigolo and Bachelorette Party / Burning Desire from PlayAround really do exist. About Gauntlet and the first label type of Magicard: Are you sure that more than 3 of each are known to exist? Gauntlet definately. There's Cincyoti's post on this. Magicard, not sure but I thought it should be removed as you will then get a lot of people arguing that its a label variation and if you put in this label variation, why don't you have Sears picture label Superman etc. I'd be suprised if there weren't at least 4. There are a lot of magicards out there in long time collector's hands. I think Atariager has one and now Crunchysuperman had one. I'd be suprised if there weren't at least another 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) It's done: http://atarimania.com/lst_soft.php?MENU=2&...n_sauver=Search Talking about released label variations: Which ones are true Holy Grails? Atari Black Label Flag Capture Sears Picture Label Superman Any others? Edited April 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchysuperman Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 How about: Atari text label Space Mission Atari text label Space Combat Atari Berzerk '82 picture label-yellow main label text Atari Berzerk '85 picture label-blue main label text I only know of one each of these. There are plenty more on my list, but I can't confirm their existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Hmm. This will not work for our database, because minor variations are (thank God) put together. What about rarity 10 label types? BTW: do you have any pictures/scans of that Space Mission? I thought it was an ad cart only? Edited April 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchysuperman Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 BTW: do you have any pictures/scans of that Space Mission? I thought it was an ad cart only? I don't have scans, but it exists - sskatari2600 (ebay id) has one. I've been trying to get him to sell it for years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Marco, any idea which of the Home Vision games are 3 or less known to exist (not counting the unfound ones)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 BTW: do you have any pictures/scans of that Space Mission? I thought it was an ad cart only? I don't have scans, but it exists - sskatari2600 (ebay id) has one. I've been trying to get him to sell it for years! Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. There's also a Atari text label Baseball cart out there somewhere too IIRC (not Home Run). What ever happened to those? I'm guessing that they're the same as the released versions and are only pre-production label mock ups, but I'd really like to know for sure. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You mean these: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=18359 http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=18360 Don't know where they went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 What about rarity 10 label types? What about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 What about rarity 10 label types? What about this? Bah, show me Zoo Fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 What about rarity 10 label types? What about this? Bah, show me Zoo Fun. Or Inca Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Or this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Ok, before you start showing Brazilian double-enders, first things first: Marco, any idea which Home Vision titles are 3 or less known to exist (excluding unfound ones)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Or this? Thats PAL ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Ok, before you start showing Brazilian double-enders, first things first: Marco, any idea which Home Vision titles are 3 or less known to exist (excluding unfound ones)? No idea, I'm not counting finds, to be honest. Cheers, Marco PS: shouldn't we make a new topic about PAL R10's and keep this one for NTSCs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 You're right. I've dragged this topic into the dark side without even knowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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