5200 vs Colecovision ad

[+Psionic]

[Course, Coleco didn't have the legal right to put a computer version of DK out, and they did (on the ADAM). But that happened after the 5200 had been out for a while....

Yes, but that ADAM version was not technically a computer version and that's what led to the fateful incident with Nintendo at 1983 CES.

[else]

Yes, but that ADAM version was not technically a computer version

 

That was a big slime on Coleco's part. Ask pretty much anyone if the ADAM was a computer or not and they'll tell you yes it was. Look, I'm a big Coleco fan, but I'll admit it was a pretty dirty and underhanded move for Coleco....

[Lord Helmet]

[Course, Coleco didn't have the legal right to put a computer version of DK out, and they did (on the ADAM). But that happened after the 5200 had been out for a while....

Yes, but that ADAM version was not technically a computer version and that's what led to the fateful incident with Nintendo at 1983 CES.

 

What incident was that?

[+Psionic]

[Course, Coleco didn't have the legal right to put a computer version of DK out, and they did (on the ADAM). But that happened after the 5200 had been out for a while....

Yes, but that ADAM version was not technically a computer version and that's what led to the fateful incident with Nintendo at 1983 CES.

 

What incident was that?

In early 1983, Nintendo had shown the Famicom to Atari and they were entering preliminary negotiations for Atari to market and distribute the Famicom (NES) in the U.S.

 

Then, at 1983 CES, Ray Kassar walked by the Coleco booth and saw a demo of Donkey Kong running on Coleco's new ADAM computer. Kassar flipped out (since Atari had the computer rights to DK and Coleco only had console rights) and tore into Coleco. He then accused Nintendo of double-dealing with Coleco (an accusation which was understandable, given Coleco's past relationship with Nintendo). This caused a major rift in relations between all three companies and stalled the negotiations between Atari and Nintendo. In the months following CES, Kassar left Atari. Shortly thereafter, Atari split up, and the consumer division was sold to the Tramiels, who put on a freeze on console game development, and the deal with Nintendo was never made.

 

In an ironic twist, the Tramiels did secure the console rights to Donkey Kong from Coleco after the latter exited the video game business. Atari then released Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. for the 7800 and reissued those same two titles for the 2600 in 1987.

Edited August 7, 2007 by PingvinBlueJeans

[johannesmutlu]

On 8/7/2007 at 3:52 AM, else said:

 

That was a big slime on Coleco's part. Ask pretty much anyone if the ADAM was a computer or not and they'll tell you yes it was. Look, I'm a big Coleco fan, but I'll admit it was a pretty dirty and underhanded move for Coleco....

The adam sounded very good on paper but i guess it backfired on coleco due all it’s problems it faced with, it’s like the 32X wich confused people too and worked against sega also because of it’s complicated things it dealt with including rumers that the 32X could even damage your genesis games etc,,,

but coloco was not the only company to convince the consumer to turn there game console into a hybrid computer,mattel tryed it with it’s keyboard alltrough being cut down after a court was made against them,

nintendo come with a famicom disk system,keyboard and cassette drive along with famicom basic(still hardly becoming a computer) BUT they could,ve come with an ‘famicom operating system” on disk to support both the famicom keyboard,cassette drive and famicom disk system,but sadly they never did(let homebrewers come up with a famicom operation system program for the fds systo support cassette drive/sata recorder and keyboard to make it happen and what could be better then developing such program then doing it on famicom basic?)

and lastly atari had ideas to make a keyboard and floppy drive for their atari 7800 by using the expansion port,but it never ever materialized, i tout they mentioned it somewhere on the box or in the manual to convince retailers and consumers that their atari 7800 could be expanded into a computer because back in 1984 when the 7800 was supposed to get launched,no retailer or consumer wanted a game console anymore,they only wanted a computer for wich you could,ve play both games and do your taxes on it,all these pseudo promises about computer expansions for game consoles was a ultimate smart clever way from companies to still get ridd off and sell their game consoles back in 1984,all to convince retailers and consumers to buy their systems??

[BIGHMW]

On 8/4/2007 at 10:22 PM, NE146 said:

 

There is an Atari 8-bit version of the same game with much better sound than the 5200 version. The pacman chomping sound is more accurate to the arcade version.. more "waka waka" Same game though.. different sound.

That "waka-waka" version of Pac-Man is also available for Big Sexy (the 5200) and yes here is Pac-Man for C-V and also 5200 Donkey Kong as well for all those who have yet to find them as of this post:

 

 

Pac-Man - Fixed Munch.bin Donkey Kong.bin Pac-Man.rom