mimo Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 just have a break from it for a while, maybe finish SI, or start Tempest I'm sure you will find the answer, use the farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Thanks, guys Although I may have some bad news; I don't think I'm going to be able to pull off the tethered ships. I've been trying to apply it to this version for a week now, and I guess I'm just not at the point where I can do something like this. There are a lot of little 'nuances' that go with this - even the advancement of the point values are different when you are using tethered ships. Bob Well, I can talk you through some of the tethered ship mechanics if you want. Its going to involve having pre-calculated angles and sin/cos values. PM me if you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 PM sent - hopefully I can adapt this to the 7800 version... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Drool........................ {cleaning drool from side of mouth} Me want, me want !!! :-) Curt Based on Atariboy2600's label:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Hi Everyone: After looking at the code and play-testing the last few versions on the 'real thing', I have come to the decision that I cannot add the tethered ships to Space Duel. The major reason being that in the later rounds where the screen is full, there is *so* much computing going on that there are some pretty noticable slow-downs until some of the rocks disappear. If I were to add the table look-ups and computations that the tethered ships would require, it would make the game much worse than it is now. I do apologize to everyone, and I believe I pretty much have everything else from the game in there (aside from the box outline of the bonus levels; but, you do still bounce off the edges). I did add the following elements: 1) UFOs cannot be made to have a zero 'X' velocity (by bouncing into them). They will regain their momentum (like the arcade does). 2) When there are less rocks on the screen than the level number, a 'Star' will be thrown onthe screen (if shot, it will be replaced, like the arcade). 3) I slowed down the rocks - they are slower in Space Duel than they are in Asteroids / Deluxe. Again, I apologize, and I will be posting the Final Release Candidate tonight. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Don't sweat it Bob. I can't wait to pick up a copy of both of your new games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 ...I do apologize to everyone, and I believe I pretty much have everything else from the game in there (aside from the box outline of the bonus levels; but, you do still bounce off the edges)...Again, I apologize, and I will be posting the Final Release Candidate tonight.Bob Bob, you crack me up. Apologize? And you state it twice. PLEASE...the only courtesy that needs to be extended here is a *HUGE* *THANK YOU* for all your hard work on this and all your other "hacks" (Still doesn't sound right describing them as such). Your generosity and talent is amazing. And thank you again for sharing all your hard work with the community. As always, you know you have my purchase for this and any other titles you release. As I said in previous post, you're really a class act and extremely professional... ...Now don't make me read one more "apology" message from ya, or else! -Trebor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) Trebor - you are too funny Thanks. As promised, here is the release candidate with the added above three enhancements. *NOTE* - I was already alerted of an issue where the player was left with no rocks on the screen but didn't advance to the next level (probably because of something with the added 'star'). - Attachment removed temporarily. Edited September 25, 2007 by PacManPlus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Quite impressive! This was always one of my childhood favorites, and it warms my heart to see it ported to a game console. You've done what Atari SHOULD have done over twenty years ago! Now follow it up with a 5200 port! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariRocks Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 ...I do apologize to everyone, and I believe I pretty much have everything else from the game in there (aside from the box outline of the bonus levels; but, you do still bounce off the edges)...Again, I apologize, and I will be posting the Final Release Candidate tonight.Bob Bob, you crack me up. Apologize? And you state it twice. PLEASE...the only courtesy that needs to be extended here is a *HUGE* *THANK YOU* for all your hard work on this and all your other "hacks" (Still doesn't sound right describing them as such). Your generosity and talent is amazing. And thank you again for sharing all your hard work with the community. As always, you know you have my purchase for this and any other titles you release. As I said in previous post, you're really a class act and extremely professional... ...Now don't make me read one more "apology" message from ya, or else! -Trebor I was going to give him an extra 10% from the payment I've already sent but forget it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hi - Here is the Release Candidate. It looks like I fixed the afore mentioned bug. Oh- and please be aware that when there are *many* rocks on the screen there is a noticable slowdown on the real hardware; although it is still very playable (IMHO). Let me know what you think! Bob SPACDUEL.ZIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightytodd Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hey Bob, Having new 7800 games to play with is AWESOME! Thanks so much for keeping this platform alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) Hi Bob plays very well;great work.Now i would like to see a PAL version.Hope there will be a cart soon.Count me in for one. greetings Walter Edited September 28, 2007 by gambler172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet-X Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 someone do fully packaged carts of both games (SD and AD) so I can buy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Great work PMP. Congrats on finishing another project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Great work PMP. Congrats on finishing another project PMP should be an inspiration to the rest of us for finishing our projects. Many cheers to PMP!!! Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Thanks guys! The reason why I was apologizing is becuase I know a few people were looking forward to the tethered ship option (I know Bakasama was, for example), and I hate letting people down. Walter - I actually tried to make a PAL version of this game by doing the same thing I did to Pac-Man Collection, but this game crashed. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Thanks guys! The reason why I was apologizing is becuase I know a few people were looking forward to the tethered ship option (I know Bakasama was, for example), and I hate letting people down. Walter - I actually tried to make a PAL version of this game by doing the same thing I did to Pac-Man Collection, but this game crashed. Bob Hi Bob no problem.I also own an NTSC system. greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) Possible PAL version, Walter (gambler172) already told me of some garbage at the bottom of the screen in Space Duel, although that will be difficult to fix as I don't get that on my ProSystem elumator here in PAL mode. I think the games play slightly slower in PAL... let me know what you find please Thanks! Bob SPACDUEL.ZIP Edited October 4, 2007 by PacManPlus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Ah... not gonna be in front of my PAL 7800 tonight, I'll try them tomorrow hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi: I think I may have found something (if my logic is correct) - is this one any better? SPACDUEL.ZIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keitaro Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hi, I tested it in Mess emulator: but looks better than the "NTSC game running in a PAL 7800": However, I can´t test it on real hardware, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks I got feedback from mimo and Gambler172 about the garbage is still there I just don't see why it would be when I added the extra lines at the bottom just like I did with PMC... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Yep the garbage is still there... in fact during the game I'd actually say there was LESS garbage running the NTSC version on the PAL system than there was running the PAL version! It's hard to see in the pics below on the title screen, so I drew a little line to represent where the garbage started... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted October 11, 2007 Author Share Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Hi: Thanks everyone for testing this. I believe I have found the issue (I hope) - although I was leaving space for the extra lines, they weren't being copied to RAM Let me know if this one is ok on the real thing - thanks again! Bob SPACDUEL.ZIP Edited October 11, 2007 by PacManPlus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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