Marco(2) Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Hey German collectors, Does anyone of you have a complete list of Quelle games? There are some lists floating around, but I'm not sure if all the titles on those indeed exist. A Quelle catalog or something would be really cool. Anyone? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Sorry Marco, I haven´t seen a complete list. Maybe we should ask Quelle if a list exist? Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 Sounds like a good plan - do you know how/where to contact them? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Maybe GameReset has a complete list? Don't know, but the list is large. StarSoft StarSoft Black The second list are double game paks I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Mail has been sent to Quelle. Hope we get an answer Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 Maybe GameReset has a complete list? Don't know, but the list is large. StarSoft StarSoft Black The second list are double game paks I think. Thanks for the input. It made me realise I should have been more precise. I was talking about the Quelle brand games (with German titles), not the no-name games. As for the lists you mention, I don't think we should still use the Star Soft name, as this is a non-existing firm. Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Thanks for the input. It made me realise I should have been more precise. I was talking about the Quelle brand games (with German titles), not the no-name games. As for the lists you mention, I don't think we should still use the Star Soft name, as this is a non-existing firm. Cheers, Marco This list are from Quelle. They are only list on GameReset as StarSoft. But I am 100% sure they are from Quelle. This stand too on the lists at the top. I don't know if the list is complete. But I think its near complete. They must maybe only rename the list. And maybe not all games from StarSoft Black are Quelle. But I think all StarSoft games are from Quelle. And they have all a german name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 Matty, The StarSoft list contains lots of the Quelle games, the other one does not contain the Quelle games I am talking about. From the first list, I doubt Baumeister, Piratenschiff, Ufo Patrol, Tennis, Galactic, and Normandy Landing are regular Quelle games (the ones that actually have "Quelle" on the box and manual). The first two are German releases of Spectravision games. Ufo Patrol is part of a Double-Game Package and the others are most likely generic Taiwanese pirates. Obviously, these don't have German names either. Finally, Star Soft really doesn't mean anything and it does hardly help to distinguish games as lots and lots of pirates all over the world used the cases with S.S. molded into the back. We really should stop using it alltogether. So, I'd still like to see a definitive list of 'real' Quelle games (as described above). Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 my mac crashed before posting the list i made .... damn. and now my carts are in the storage again i have a about 70 titles .... will relist them soon also i wrote quite a bit about the differenciation: 1) quelle games with grey or colored labels (with or without SS mark) 2) 2-in-One packs with black labels (one long one short cart, black labels, generally sans serif typo) 3) same ones in single packs (same design than quelle boxes, one long cart, black label, generally sans serif typo) 4) same ones in single packs (similar design than quelle boxes, one short or long cart, black label, cooper black typo) more later ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 19, 2002 Author Share Posted July 19, 2002 I am looking for a list that contains games that: [*]were sold by Quelle AND [*]have cases with S.S. molded into the back AND [*]have "Quelle" listed on box and manual AND [*]have a serial number, like Best.-Nr "719.383 2". So, no single or double Taiwanese pirate or other crap, like the Bit games. Heck, if we were gonna list everything Quelle sold, we should also include regular releases by Atari, Imagic et al. So, what I would like to see is a complete and corroborated list of what I would like to call the Real Quelle Deal Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I am looking for a list that contains games that: [*]were sold by Quelle AND [*]have cases with S.S. molded into the back AND [*]have "Quelle" listed on box and manual AND [*]have a serial number, like Best.-Nr "719.383 2". Das sind ja mehr als drei Wünsche auf einmal. Gibt´s nicht mal beim Überraschungs-Ei OK, lets wait for the Quelle answer (hope we get one). Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Marco, I don't know that such a list exists. Albert and I were discussing Quelle a few weeks ago and we realized that we need to overhaul our Quelle entry. We had initially listed on the basis of 'traditional' Quelle titles but then decided that we should only list titles as Quelle if they meet criteria similar to that which you posted. All the unknown games that were simply sold by Quelle will be moved to Unknown. I simply haven't had time to go through and fix the list, but I will try to do that soon. Perhaps that can be a starting point, complete with visual representation, for a true Quelle list? If we can help you with this, we'd love to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Ok, then we can start our own list. everyone who have a boxed Quelle cart can add it here. I have these game with box from Quelle: 100% from Quelle, but diffrent box and manual, no Quelle on manual. But has a seal from Quelle on the Box like the others: Bobby geht nach Hause (476.774 5) all others with Quelle seal and on manual: Alices Abenteuer (732.273 Der hungrige Panda (731.662 3) Jagd auf Diamanten-Frisco (875.413 7) (Quelle too on Box) Robin Hood (I have no manual) (684.733 9) Schnapp die Apfeldiebe (429.663 Super-Ferrari (402.272 9) Top Gun (626.502 9) Ungeheuer der Tiefe (719.013 5) Vogel Flieh (465.302 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnenhexer Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I found 2 carts with manual: Fuchs und Schweinchen Schlau Kampf dem Steinfresser Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 my little boxed collection: Angriff der Luftflotten 495.4632 Billiard 626.6100 Bobby geht nach Hause 476.7745 Der flinke Architekt 343.3737 Der Vielfraß 176.5437 Die Ente und der Wolf 688.3839 Der moderne Ritter 700.2231 Die Ratte und die Karotten 687.4630 Die Springteufel 176.6542 Die Unterwasser Bestien 463.7344 Dschungel Boy 262.8949 Eddy Langfinger, der Museumsdieb 732.0526 Eishockey-Fieber 873.790.0 Fuchs und SchweinchenSchlau 806.1749 Hili Ball 689.3028 Katastrophein-Einsatz 876.0134 Labyrinth 805.7846 Landungskomando 176.4331 Mein Weg 686.5612 Mission 3000 633.7232 Motocross 719.3832 Pac-Kong 219.2920 Phantom-Panzer 475.6136 Raumbasen-Attacke 732.0740 Robin Hood 684.7339 Schießbude 701.1349 Schnapp die Apfeldiebe 429.6638 Stopp die Gangster 377.9436 Strahlen der Teufelsvögel 463.8607 Super-Cowboy beim Rodeo 874.2546 Super-Ferrari 402.2729 Tom´s Eierjagd 731.5039 Top Gun 626.5029 Vogel Flieh 465.3028 Wachroboter jagt Jupy 715.8535 Weltraumtunnel 292.6517 Wüstenschlacht 262.7941 Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 20, 2002 Author Share Posted July 20, 2002 Thanks for the kick-off, ren.dhark! I have added some more titles that I have in my collection: Alices Abenteur 732.273.8 Angriff der Luftflotten 495.4632 Aufruhr im Zoo 719.694.2 Bermuda 322.913.5 Billiard 626.6100 Bobby geht nach Hause 476.7745 Der flinke Architekt 343.3737 Der Hungrige Panda 731.662.3 Der Vielfraß 176.5437 Die Ente und der Wolf 688.3839 Der moderne Ritter 700.2231 Die Hungrigen Frösche 043.151.0 Die Ratte und die Karotten 687.4630 Die Springteufel 176.6542 Die Unterwasser Bestien 463.7344 Dschungel Boy 262.8949 Eddy Langfinger, der Museumsdieb 732.0526 Eishockey-Fieber 873.790.0 Fuchs und SchweinchenSchlau 806.1749 Gefährlichte Mäusejagd 719.551.4 Gefecht im All 147.443.6 Hili Ball 689.3028 Im Reich der Spinne 322.773.3 Im Schutz der Drachen 719.252.9 Invasion aus der Galaxis 495.563.9 Invasion der UFO's 731.322.1 Jagd auf Diamanten-Frisco 875.413.7 Kampf dem Steinfresser 463.574.4 Kampf im Asteroiden-Gürtel 719.302.2 Kampf um die Schatzinsel 719.163.8 Katastrophein-Einsatz 876.0134 Labyrinth 805.7846 Landung in der Normandie 876.482.1 Landungskomando 176.4331 Marineflieger 176.764.9 Mein Weg 686.5612 Mission 3000 633.7232 Motocross 719.3832 Pac-Kong 219.2920 Phantom-Panzer 475.6136 Phantompanzer II 343.273.9 Raumbasen-Attacke 732.0740 Raumpatrouille 731.064.2 Robin Hood 684.7339 Schießbude 701.1349 Schussel, der Polizistenschreck 731.273.9 Spiderman 495.663.7 Schnapp die Apfeldiebe 429.6638 Stopp die Gangster 377.9436 Strahlen der Teufelsvögel 463.8607 Super-Cowboy beim Rodeo 874.2546 Super-Ferrari 402.2729 Teller Jonglieren 685.996.1 Tom´s Eierjagd 731.5039 Top Gun 626.5029 Ufi und sein Gefährlicher Einsatz 732.174.8 Ungeheuer der Tiefe Vogel Flieh 465.3028 Wachroboter jagt Jupy 715.8535 Weltraumtunnel 292.6517 Winterjagd 343.073.3 Wüstenschlacht 262.7941 Also, I have two that come in boxes that are slightly different, and also have a different serial number: Feuerwehr im Einsatz 657644 Kampf in der Galaxie 657644 So, there are at least 62 'real' Quelle games, and 64 if we count these two. Anybody got any more Quelle games that are not yet listed here? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc--- Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Just an idea: I browsed ebay.de and there are about 15 - 20 auctions with Quelle catalogs, some of them from the early 80s. The catalogs go for about 3 - 15 Euros. I would buy some, but shipping charge would be more than 15 Euros from Germany to Austria. So maybe any of you German guys might be interested and scan the Atari pages for us then ... Cheers, Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 21, 2002 Author Share Posted July 21, 2002 Dieter, I have some ads from Quelle, but they only show official release games - very strange! Can you show us some URLs, Dieter, so we can check out the goods? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 i picked up about 25 (!) different pages of quelle / otto/ ... -catalogs at the 8-bit meeting in francfort .... and none has anything mentioning their games ... i believe that quelle wasn't into getting legal trouble, so they just not promoted the games. little conspiracy theory: the big warehouse got the ok to produce games in mass-production, possibly to "save the market" with producing "new" stuff, and that might have been at the same place that atari produces their carts in asia (remember that older consp. theory), but on the other side they were not allowed to promote them. i can't believe that such a big company would have done completely illegal bootlegs in such high quantity (over 60 titles!!!). even in the outlaw-market brasil, a company with financial power like CCE only made a few more titles ... and i can't imagine that quelle bought all the rights for the games ... i don't think even bill gates would have financed that in the early eighties just a thought ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 here's one from 77. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=1550674096 i asked the seller if it allready has the VCS inside, although i don't really believe it. i'll let you know. maybe i'll try to snipe that one ... but it seems there is special katalog collectors and they sometimes spent pretty much for those catalogs ... btw, i picked up a box from the SP- series, i had never seen those before: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=2040465523 interesting that there must be many other boxes in that style out there .... and a bit frightening for our purse, isn't it marco scans will be uploaded to atariage as soon as i have them here (i'm picking up günther's too) greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 btw, i picked up a box from the SP- series, i had never seen those before: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=2040465523 interesting that there must be many other boxes in that style out there .... and a bit frightening for our purse, isn't it marco scans will be uploaded to atariage as soon as i have them here (i'm picking up günther's too) greetings I have one boxed SP too. I own SP-204 Sternen-Kampf. I have get it with 4 other complete boxed games for only 20,- Euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 ok, he replied and told me that the 77 katalog only contains pongs but no VCS console the box i won isn't credited .... not on the front at least .... i'll post more infos when i'll have the boxes. they were suposedly distributed by ariola as well (beeing ripoff of suntek/rainbowvision games and comming from the same sources than the HES/activision games) so they tend to be called ariola-games ... that's more or less under what i file them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I have one box from SP, and on the back is only a manual. Nothing where you can see where it came from. Only a noname Game. So I think your box will tell nothing more then my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 i have an interesting new entry for our list .... best. 259.151. 9 (L 267/943) haha, guess what it is! ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 btw, i picked up a box from the SP- series, i had never seen those before: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=2040465523 interesting that there must be many other boxes in that style out there .... and a bit frightening for our purse, isn't it marco scans will be uploaded to atariage as soon as i have them here (i'm picking up günther's too) hehe ... one for you, one for me Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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