Marsupilami Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Hi, I'm trying to find if there is a link between the serial numbers and the Secam/NTSC/PAL standards. That could be useful for example when you buy a 800 XL on ebay, just to be sure you're buying what you're looking for. Some of them comes from a french website 800XL NTSC 7YJ HA 3647524 - (Atari/Warner made in Hong-Kong) - hunmanik 7YJ HA 4029134 7YJ HA 97921 144 - (Atari/Warner made in Hong Kong) - Christophero Sly 72RHA 008718 (114) - (Atari/Warner made in Taiwan) - hunmanik 72RHA 085837 (224) - (Atari/Warner made in Taiwan) - hunmanik 72RHA 076908 (D-344) - (made in Taiwan) - Sikor 72RHA 213491 (D-464) - (Atari made in Taiwan) - Marsupilami 83AHA 01864 (473) - (made in Hong Kong) - a8isa1 83AHA 17336 (503) - (made in Hong Kong) - Athleos SECAM 84 ATS 04006 (S 125) - www.atarimania.com 84 ATS 12580 (S 464) - Marsupilami 84 ATS 18088 (S 454) 84 ATS 24588 (S 454) - Marsupilami 84 ATS 25600 (S 454) 84 ATS 25872 (S 454) 84 ATS 32524 (S 035) - Marsupilami 84 ATS 34507 (? ???) - atari-passion 84 ATS 40006 (? ???) 84 ATS 48211 (S 155) PAL 83AHA 34103 513 (PAL to be confirmed) - bf2k+ 83AHA 11592 493 (made in hongkong) - "converted to PAL" - sup8pdct 83AHU 21851 164 83AHP 11367 (084) - (made in HongKong) - sup8pdct 83AHP 13572 (084) - (made in Hong Kong) - sup8pdct 83AHP 13877 (084) - (Atari/Warner made in Hong Kong) - pepax 83AHP 13911 (084) - (Atari/Warner made in Hong Kong) - Rybags ?????? AT 8439429 (B-394) - (made in Taiwan) - Sikor ?????? AT 8461554 (? ????) - atari-passion ?????? AT 8482898 (B-404) - (Atari/Warner made in Taiwan) - myker 72R3CG AT 8423119 (B045) - (Atari Made in Taiwan) - Bunsen 72R3CG AT 8426404 (B-374) - (Atari/Warner Made in Taiwan) - Bunsen 72R3CG AT 8437070 (B-394) - (Atari/Warner made in Taiwan) - Marsupilami 72R3CG AT 8438771 (B-394) - (Atari/Warner made in Taiwan) - e bay 72R3CG AT 8472444 (B-384) - (made in Taiwan) - Sikor 72R3CG AT 84160764 (B 474) - (Atari Made in Taiwan) - Bunsen 72R3CG AT 84172013 (B 125) - (made in Taiwan) - Sikor 72R3CG AT 84196194 (B446) - (Atari/Warner Made in Taiwan) - Bunsen the last letter before the numeric sequence seems to have meaning, but possibly not in other cases.P - PAL S - Secam A - America (?) U - United Kingdom This post is for 800 XL only. Edited October 26, 2008 by Marsupilami Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 My 800XL (Australia, PAL, made in Hong Kong) 83 AHP 13911 084 Guess the first 2 characters are probably the year, although I bought mine just after mid-1984. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1593946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hunmanik Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 800XL NTSC Atari/Warner 72RHA 085837 224 (224 is blue) Taiwan (white label) 800XL NTSC Atari/Warner 7YJ HA 3647524 Hong Kong (black label) 800XL NTSC Atari/Warner 72RHA 008718 114 (114 is blue) Taiwan (white label) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 (edited) On my 800XL i've found the following: 72R3CG AT8482898 B-404 It's in PAL and made in Taiwan (signed by Atari/Warner, too). Edited September 28, 2008 by miker Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I've got an 800XL here serial # 83AHA 34103-513 It has no display hooked to my NTSC monitor. I am wondering if it might be a PAL machine. Any ideas based on the serial #?? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Hard to say. Atari's PAL stuff often has a little PAL label plastered on as an afterthought but they could come off easily enough. On most of the 800XLs listed so far, the last letter before the numeric sequence seems to have meaning, but possibly not in other cases. P - PAL, S - Secam, A - America (?), U - ??? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari-passion Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Hello, my french computer atari 800xl : - secam : 84 ATS 34507 - PAL : AT 8461554 A+ Arnaud Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) U would be United Kingdom. That PAL model is mine and it still has a tiny blue "UK" sticker. Addendum... The label for one of the SECAM models listed above actually says 84-ATS-40006-S125. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Edited September 29, 2008 by www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 Hello all, Thanks for you replies, i've updated the first post. Could someone post a picture of the rear of your pal/ntcs/secam XL just to help the others to recognise their Atari standards ? I'll add your pictures to the first post. regards, Marsup. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1594980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hunmanik Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Hello all,Thanks for you replies, i've updated the first post. Could someone post a picture of the rear of your pal/ntcs/secam XL just to help the others to recognise their Atari standards ? I'll add your pictures to the first post. regards, Marsup. Before I re-read your note, I thought you wanted pictures of the label where the serial number is. But I guess you really want photos of the back of the machines? Sorry, I actually don't have a digital camera. But as long as I made these scans, here are scans of the bottom of my 3 NTSC 800XLs as previously reported. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1595316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepax Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I don't feel like typing too much right now.... The almost invisible number is IMHO 2135. All PAL (I hope ). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1595711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepax Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 One more added: Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1597387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Ok guys, you're really lazy Just found this 800XL on ebay (PAL): Firts Post updated Edited October 19, 2008 by Marsupilami Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) 83AHA 11592493 made in hongkong different shaped sticker compared to the other 2. Just discovered it has been converted to PAL 83AHP 13572084 Made in Hong Kong. 83AHP 11367084 Made in HongKong all PAL for Australia james Edited October 20, 2008 by sup8pdct Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 NTSC 800XL 83AHA 01864 473 Made in Hong Kong - Steve Sheppard Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 NTSC 800XL83AHA 01864 473 Made in Hong Kong Hum...Strange because all the "83AHA" we have are PAL... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 83AHA 11592493 made in hongkong different shaped sticker compared to the other 2. Just discovered it has been converted to PAL Hum...What do you mean exactly by "converted to PAL" ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 7YJ HA 97921 144 Atari, Inc. / Warner Hong Kong NTSC Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 7YJ HA 97921 144Atari, Inc. / Warner Hong Kong NTSC Added, thanks. (strange number too: 1 more number than the other "7YJHA3)... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikor Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) O.K. My 800XL machines: 72R3CG AT84172013 B125 B125 Made in Taiwan, PAL 72R3CG AT8472444 B-384, made in Taiwan, PAL (this time not all number - label defected): AT8439429 B-394, made in Taiwan, PAL 72RHA 076908 D-344, made in Taiwan, NTSC Edited October 20, 2008 by Sikor Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
athleos Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 i have an NTSC machine: Atari 800XL FCC ID: BPA83A800 MADE IN HONG KONG Serial No. 83AHA 17336 503 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1606999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Added too, thanks guys ! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1607010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Here we go: 800XL: 72R3CG AT84196194 (B446) Made in Taiwan, PAL, Atari/Warner 72R3CG AT8426404 (B-374) Made in Taiwan, PAL, Atari/Warner 72R3CG AT8423119 (B045) Made in Taiwan, PAL, Atari 72R3CG AT84160764 (B 474) Made in Taiwan, PAL, Atari All sold in Germany Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1607045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 83AHA 11592493 made in hongkong different shaped sticker compared to the other 2. Just discovered it has been converted to PAL Hum...What do you mean exactly by "converted to PAL" ? It was a different video standard and now it is PAL. Judging from the serial numbers I would say it was a NTSC. Reason would say that this NTSC machine was converted to PAL. All the soldering around the Modulator, different style of chip socket for the pal colour clock, solder work around all the colour clock circuit, all points to the conversion being done. James Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1607335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsupilami Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Here we go:800XL: [...] All sold in Germany Added, thanks Bunsen Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/132201-800-xl-serial-numbers-secampalntsc/#findComment-1609962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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