bcprs1 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Checked out ebay this morning and found this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1377547344 Come on now, $165 buy it now. I think this ruins the hobby for people who collect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorleagueguy Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 I agree, but, you know someone out there IS going to pay it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 First of all this is flat out FRAUD. This guy is NOT selling THE prototype, he is selling the finished game. So this is a FRAUDULENT auction to begin with. Second of all, the seller is a profiteering weasel. The game, when released, cost $50. To raise the BIN and most likely the Reserve to more than triple that amount is scandalous. I urge everyone to avoid this auction like the plague. There are plenty of decent, honest people out there who may make you a more reasonable deal on this cool game, and I bet you can get a copy of it from Hozer for much cheaper if all you want is to play it. This is just sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smada Bez Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 What is wrong with the people on E-bay and why do they want this game so bad Look at these two other auctions for this game. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1374440492 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1375811523 I did notice that the first one IS signed by Bob Polaro but for me that wouldn't increase the value $210. I feel really bad for both of these people because AFAIK you can still buy this game from Atari2600.com. They still have it in their online store anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Yes, I'm sure that Atari2600.com still has copies of this game available for sale. I saw them selling copies at CGE2K2, and it was initially released at PhillyClassic 3. When games like this are still available from the original vendor for the original asking price, it's disturbing to see them on eBay with a Buy It Now price much higher than the original (in this case, over three times as much!) While I understand that people may have many reasons besides profiteering for selling games on eBay, cases like these are unfortunate, because they are examples of trying to take advantage of people who don't know they can get the game for much less elsewhere. Of course, there is always "Buyer Beware", but that doesn't make what the seller is doing right. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 "There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum ( I think he would really enjoy ebay) Would not come down too hard on the sellers. It doesn't look like their opening bids were more then they paid. The buyers just ran it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap5750 Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Here you go: https://www.atari2600.com/cgi-bin/cp/cp-app...g=prod&ref=3896 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I just emailed the bidder and let him know this it's still available. I'm editing the post to say I emailed EVERYONE whgo bid over $45.00 that this is still available. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangles66 Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Looks like 2 of the bidders are fairly new to ebay and neeed to do thier homework before they bid on stuff. Callipygous wrote "There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briskbc Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 "There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum ( I think he would really enjoy ebay) LOL Why do people get so testy about a high buy it now price? Sure this guys a tool but it's just an option. No one's holding a gun to anyone's head. If your going to bid then just bid what you feel is fair and move on to the next item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Why do people get so testy about a high buy it now price? Sure this guys a tool but it's just an option. No one's holding a gun to anyone's head. If your going to bid then just bid what you feel is fair and move on to the next item. Yeah, I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand, people really should do their homework before bidding on something like this. On the other hand, I'm generally not fond of people who take advantage of others' ignorance for their own personal gain. You have to assume that the sellers know the game can still be purchaed for $45 new, and they're pimping this "rare" game in the hopes that some sucker will come along and buy it on impulse, without doing even a simple search on the net to learn more about it. Man, I just looked at two of the auctions and one ended at $162.50 and the other at $255.00. Ugh! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap5750 Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Okay...I'm selling a few unique item here. It's called Combat for the Atari 2600. This is a vintage item that everyone must own. The game is nearly 30 years old, but still looks like new. I've personally tested it and it works fine. But wait, there's more! Use my buy it now feature and I'll include the one that started it all. Yes, that's right...Pac-Man! Now you too can experience the thrill of playing Pac-Man in your own home. But wait, there's more! Also included is the shrinkwrap that was used for the boxes to these games even including the original sticker price!! But wait, there's more! For an additional $340.00, I'll include a very rare set of paddles, a TV switchbox, powersupply and 2600 jr. Let me tell ya folks....it's hard to find any other deals as good as this one. Bid now before it's too late! A little off-topic, someday Albert I really will get that list for you. It's just exactly my favorite thing to do. Maybe I'll just send you the Excel spreadsheet I have that includes most everything I have along with the quantity. Cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 A little off-topic, someday Albert I really will get that list for you. It's just exactly my favorite thing to do. Maybe I'll just send you the Excel spreadsheet I have that includes most everything I have along with the quantity. I know what you mean, I was hoping to put together an accurate trade list for CGE2K2, but just didn't have the time. Now nearly a month has passed since the show and I still don't have them updated! I think it's because I know how much work it's going to be to sort through everything I've acquired in the last year, add some items to my collection, then organize the dupes, and finally enter them all into Cart Commander. Fun fun! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap5750 Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Well, I don't want to stray this topic too far, but.... Part of the reason for my delay is I'm trying to get my database set up the way I want it. From there, I can then input everything (again) via the silly little spreadsheet I set up. Once that's all finished, creating a report using Crystal Reports will be a snap. Plus, I've been an e-bay-a-holic lately and every time I get everything updated I end up buying (and thus receiving) more stuff. I'm also looking at getting some rubbermaid tubs to store the stuff in. My livingroom floor right now looks like a huge maze with stack after stack of games. And to think my collection is only a little over 400 carts...which will be a little over 500 sometime next week. What will I do when it gets to 1000? Cap PS: I guess I mentioned e-bay so I didn't stray too far...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZ Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Checked out ebay this morning and found this.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1377547344 Come on now, $165 buy it now. I think this ruins the hobby for people who collect. I think there is a deep way to think about this issue. Although I agree that these prices are too high, let's think of this in a different way... You say this may ruin the hobby for people, but consider this... The seller gets $125 from a buyer for this game. What do you suppose the seller might do with this money? I would submit that they may pump it back into the market, because their interest centers mainly on games (specifically classic games). Of course, if this seller no longer has any interest in the classic gaming scene, then YES, I would agree that he might be ruining the hobby for others, as you say. If someone lives in a small town, for instance, and wins the lottery. Provided that they don't hoard their winnings, they are actually contributing to their community and the businesses there by purchasing items, or buying goods/services. If they leave the small town, then you could refer to them as being "a traitor". Is this an "off the wall" philosophy about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggerthehun Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Interesting take on that, KAZ... yeah, I like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I'm not entirely convinced that the ends justify the means here, KAZ. If I sell drugs to the neighborhood kids, but then take that money and buy groceries at the local market, I'm keeping the money in the community, but I'm doing it in a sleazy way. Just thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZ Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 haha, good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggerthehun Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 So, Stan, you're NOT approving of my selling crack during passing periods? (Hey, I'm AT SCHOOL anyway - and LORD KNOW'S I DESERVE THE EXTRA PAY!) Alright, I'll stop... Oh, and just for the record - the buy it now on that auction IS obscene, if he puts it back into the gaming scene or not... but I like the lottery idea. Another thought... I'm seeing the beginnings of the ATARI auctions looking somewhat like the beginning of the crash of the Star Wars craze. In some ways, I think it is a good thing... in that - with people buying and hoarding - and selling for way too much... well, that's gonna eventually turn people away from buying atari altogether - then things'll crash - and you'll be able to pick up atari stuff cheap - en masse. At least, that's what happened with the Star Wars stuff. True, some of the stuff I bought back in '95 ain't worth what I paid for it then - but I DON'T CARE - cause it was'nt an investment - it was me caring about that magical part of my childhood. Maybe this is the way things have to happen to eventually bring prices back down to the range where the "true" fans can afford it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella'sGhost Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Here's how I see it, if you are new to ebay and new to Atari collecting, why would you bid so high for a Bugs Bunny "prototype"? without doing some research. Any serious or even not so serious collector by now would have discovered and spent some time at Atari-age and gotten some valuble information on whats going on in the world of Atari collecting... if you are collecting and buying games on-line for the Atari and never visit this web site or others that deal on this subject than you are missing out and will certainly get ripped off sooner or later. It may be their own fault, but hopefully they will come to their senses soon before they get ripped off again! They may just be new to all of this and eventually they will learn, I'm still learning stuff all the time thanks to this site and others like it!.... I have no prototypes! I wouldn't know what to do if I found one... maybe a little dance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpolaro Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 atari2600.com still has copies available for sale at the regular price of $45. i'm upset that someone who asked me to sign the game at the show is preying on collectors. please avoid all bugs bunny ebay sales... http://www.atari2600.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeftrevino Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 look. Someones selling a snow white proto too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1380127727 this pisses me off. since i'm new to collecting. it's hard to know what to pay. (ie is it over priced?) you guys here at atariage help alot. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Here are my thoughts on it... One of the main issues that I have with a lot of games sold at the various collectable gaming shows is that their exclusivity sometimes outweighs their availability. I do not think that people are ruining the community by buying or selling games higher than what they paid for them -- hell, people have been paying how much for Battlesphere on the Jaguar? The best way to solve the problem, in my opinion is to make it so that there are more than one way to get the game. The 'exclusive' or 'limited edition' version and the regular version. When we started looking for games for the Midwest Classic, that was a big requirement for all of us. The games that we ended up with -- Warring Worms and Berzerk -- are both available in non-Midwest Classic editions. Collectors do not have to pay an arm and a leg for these versions unless they specifically want too. Just my $.02 cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 I agree with Dan on this as well, if you want the plain Bugs Bunny boxed version, that's fine but if you want the signed one, start bidding (not that I am gonna sell mine ) ! At the end of the show I saw a bunch of people buy 2 or 3 each of the homebrews because they brought the cash and the room to store them so they can later sell them to collectors that didn't spend the money for plane tickets and hotel rooms etc. ! AND ? Would you demand that someone sells you a Kituragi handsigned PS2 for $199.00 after flying to Japan to get it ? I don't think so. Another $0.02 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Is the Snow White still available at a normal retail? I usually find it pretty hard that these sell out at shows. I do think it is bull that any games released for cons are not available for outside sources, especially for the overseas customers. I personally do not have time nor money to just leisurely travel all over the country to buy an Atari game or two. As for the Bugs Bunny being sold high, I personally don't like it but they have the right to do so. But as a collector I also have the right to contact the bidders and tell them these are available on atari2600.com, so things become a little more equal. If the game was not available for its original retail price, then I would give the go ahead on whoever wanted to sell it for a profit, but I find it rude and unfair to charge high prices for something that is readily available. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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