lucifershalo Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I know undiscovered prototypes are found all the time but do we know if the following unreleased games have a chance to exist or not? 20th Century Fox 9 to 5 (not released) Fall Guy, The (not released) Apollo Kyphus CBS Madden Football (not released) Satan's Hollow (not released) Commavid Mission Omega (not released) Underworld (not released) Data Age Mr. Bill's Neighborhood (not released) Mr T Smokey the Bear (not released) GGC Family Feud (not released) Jeopardy (not released) Joker's Wild (not released) Password (not released) The Price Is Right (not released) Tic-Tac-Dough (not released) Wheel Of Fortune (not released) Imagic Microsurgeon (not released) Safecracker (not released) Konami Super Scramble Milton Bradley Scramble (not released) Star Trek: The Motion Picture (not released) Tank Blitz (not released) M Network XIV Winter Olympics (not released) Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (not released) AD&D: Tower of Mystery (not released) AD&D: Treasure of Tarmin (not released) In Search of the Golden Skull (not released) Loco-Motion (not released) Mission X (not released) Mystic Castle (not released) Probe 2000 3149VC Power Lords (not released) 3152VC Pursuit of the Pink Panther (not released) Panda 102 Baseball (not released) 103 Galactic Invaders (not released) 107 Conservation -- The Watt Way (not released) 112 Shuttle Rescue (not released) 113 Midnight Rider (not released) Parker Circus Charlie (not released) Incredible Hulk, The (not released) Octopussy Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 1 (not released) Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 2 (not released) Playaround No.206 General Retreat/Westward Ho (not released) Sega 48 Hours (not released) Airplane! (not released) Buck Rogers: Caverns of Zagreb (not released) Buck Rogers: Marathon of Zenda (not released) Buck Rogers: Secrets of Zadar (not released) Dragonslayer (not released) Escape From Alcatraz (not released) Friday the 13th (not released) Marathon Man (not released) Mission Impossible (not released) Subterfuge (not released) War of the Worlds (not released) Spectravision Cave-In (not released) Drive 'Em Krazy (not released) Eagle Mountain (not released) Glactic Tactic (not released) Master Cylinder (not released) Protobob (not released) Romper Room's Countdown to Fun (not released) Romper Room: Do Bee's First Alphabet (not released) Romper Room: The Street Where You Live (not released) Sector Alpha (Unreleased) Time Escape (not released) Vertinko (not released) Vortex (not released) Sunrise Snowplow (not released) Tigervision 7-010 Scraper Caper (not released) 7-013 Changes (not released) 7-014 Sky Lancer (not released) 7-015 Super Crush (not released) Ultravision Astro Battle (not released) Quest for the Idol (not released) Space Robot (not released) Venturevision Solar Defense (not released) Wizard Flesh Gordon (not released) are we sure some of those were never coded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler_26 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Kyphus from Apollo and Locomotion from M-Network have already been found. General Re-Treat/Westward Ho was released and IIRC In Search of the Golden Skull and Pink Panther have also been found. Edited November 9, 2008 by Impaler_26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I have a feeling Quest for the Idol is just another name for Inca Gold. Given the strong Ultravision/Funvision connection this makes sense. Astro Battle and Space Robot are probably pirates of the two Dimax/sinmax games. General Re-Treat / Westward Ho was released by Playaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifershalo Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Kyphus from Apollo and Locomotion from M-Network have already been found. General Re-Treat/Westward Ho was released and IIRC In Search of the Golden Skull and Pink Panther have also been found. I also meant, that the rom of those games could be freely accessible couldnt find Kyphus and Pink panther has been found but never released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler_26 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I also meant, that the rom of those games could be freely accessible couldnt find Kyphus and Pink panther has been found but never released Ah Ok! Unfortunately there a few protos out there that haven't been dumped yet or the rom wasn't made available like Good Luck Charlie Brown, Locomotion, Anteater, Pink Panther etc. But here's the Kyphus rom. Kyphus__1982___Apollo___AP_2007___Prototype_.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzillajoe Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 What is the reasoning behind not dumping the rom to a proto? Is there any money to be made from 30 year old games? At most you get $1000 or so. Not like you can retire on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifershalo Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 What is the reasoning behind not dumping the rom to a proto? Is there any money to be made from 30 year old games? At most you get $1000 or so. Not like you can retire on it. being selfish? "I have it and the rest of the world doesnt"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymailman Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 These games would be great if found. When found, I hope they are shared with all so everyone can enjoy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnidog Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 No, that is a LONG list of games to be found..it would be nice once found, that they are shared Good luck to all paulie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzillajoe Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Also is it known how many from that list were finished, started or even scheduled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifershalo Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Also is it known how many from that list were finished, started or even scheduled? exactly my question, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I know undiscovered prototypes are found all the timebut do we know if the following unreleased games have a chance to exist or not? 20th Century Fox 9 to 5 (not released) Fall Guy, The (not released) Apollo Kyphus CBS Madden Football (not released) Satan's Hollow (not released) Commavid Mission Omega (not released) Underworld (not released) Data Age Mr. Bill's Neighborhood (not released) Mr T Smokey the Bear (not released) GGC Family Feud (not released) Jeopardy (not released) Joker's Wild (not released) Password (not released) The Price Is Right (not released) Tic-Tac-Dough (not released) Wheel Of Fortune (not released) Imagic Microsurgeon (not released) Safecracker (not released) Konami Super Scramble Milton Bradley Scramble (not released) Star Trek: The Motion Picture (not released) Tank Blitz (not released) M Network XIV Winter Olympics (not released) Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (not released) AD&D: Tower of Mystery (not released) AD&D: Treasure of Tarmin (not released) In Search of the Golden Skull (not released) Loco-Motion (not released) Mission X (not released) Mystic Castle (not released) Probe 2000 3149VC Power Lords (not released) 3152VC Pursuit of the Pink Panther (not released) Panda 102 Baseball (not released) 103 Galactic Invaders (not released) 107 Conservation -- The Watt Way (not released) 112 Shuttle Rescue (not released) 113 Midnight Rider (not released) Parker Circus Charlie (not released) Incredible Hulk, The (not released) Octopussy Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 1 (not released) Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 2 (not released) Playaround No.206 General Retreat/Westward Ho (not released) Sega 48 Hours (not released) Airplane! (not released) Buck Rogers: Caverns of Zagreb (not released) Buck Rogers: Marathon of Zenda (not released) Buck Rogers: Secrets of Zadar (not released) Dragonslayer (not released) Escape From Alcatraz (not released) Friday the 13th (not released) Marathon Man (not released) Mission Impossible (not released) Subterfuge (not released) War of the Worlds (not released) Spectravision Cave-In (not released) Drive 'Em Krazy (not released) Eagle Mountain (not released) Glactic Tactic (not released) Master Cylinder (not released) Protobob (not released) Romper Room's Countdown to Fun (not released) Romper Room: Do Bee's First Alphabet (not released) Romper Room: The Street Where You Live (not released) Sector Alpha (Unreleased) Time Escape (not released) Vertinko (not released) Vortex (not released) Sunrise Snowplow (not released) Tigervision 7-010 Scraper Caper (not released) 7-013 Changes (not released) 7-014 Sky Lancer (not released) 7-015 Super Crush (not released) Ultravision Astro Battle (not released) Quest for the Idol (not released) Space Robot (not released) Venturevision Solar Defense (not released) Wizard Flesh Gordon (not released) are we sure some of those were never coded? The red ones are known to exist. Astrobattle and Space Robot are Dimax / Sinmax games, not Ultravision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 General Re-Treat / Westward Ho was released by Playaround. Was it released in NTSC format or strictly in europe. I have only ever seen a pal version but now am curious if an NTSC version exists? Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Was it released in NTSC format or strictly in europe. I have only ever seen a pal version but now am curious if an NTSC version exists? AFAIK it's a PAL only release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) I have a feeling Quest for the Idol is just another name for Inca Gold. Given the strong Ultravision/Funvision connection this makes sense. Very well possible. Astro Battle and Space Robot are probably pirates of the two Dimax/sinmax games. Not pirates, but original Dimax / Sinmax titles: I think Astrobattle was eventually released as Astrowar: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...7410&MENU=2 Mission Impossible is still a mystery to me. Edited November 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 These are the ones I know of from reading about and also playing some of them : 9 to 5 (not released) -WIP name, released as Bank Heist Kyphus -found and dumped to public Smokey the Bear (not released) - may have been found Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (not released) -found, not dumped to public AD&D: Tower of Mystery (not released) -found, not dumped to public AD&D: Treasure of Tarmin (not released) -found, not dumped to public In Search of the Golden Skull (not released) -found, not dumped to public Loco-Motion (not released) -found, not dumped Mission X (not released) -found, not dumped to public 3152VC Pursuit of the Pink Panther (not released) -found, not dumped to public Octopussy - just a mock up, not a real game Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 1 (not released) -found and dumped, ewok adventure Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 2 (not released) -not progamed, just a mock up box No.206 General Retreat/Westward Ho (not released) -was released Flesh Gordon (not released) completed game, found but not dumped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 2 (not released) O'rly? You got some sources to back this one up? I'd love to see *anything* in regards to a 2600 version of game 2 aside from the mock up box and screen shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) 9 to 5 (not released) -WIP name, released as Bank Heist - 9 to 5 has nothing to do with Bank Heist. Catalog description: “A secretary's work is never done: dictation, typing letters, filing, and it all has to be done on time. Now, the boss wants coffee, and time is running short. Can she keep up with the pace?" Smokey the Bear (not released) - may have been found - You mean the 'Bear Game' proto from SEGA? Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (not released) -found, not dumped to public - Any evidence of that? Loco-Motion (not released) -found, not dumped - AFAIK this one is dumped, but not released to the public. Mission X (not released) -found, not dumped to public - Only this has been found: http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=20654 Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi -- Game 2 (not released) -not progamed, just a mock up box - This one was released as RotJ - Death Star Battle. Edited November 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user42 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 9 to 5 (not released) -WIP name, released as Bank Heist - 9 to 5 has nothing to do with Bank Heist. Catalog description: “A secretary's work is never done: dictation, typing letters, filing, and it all has to be done on time. Now, the boss wants coffee, and time is running short. Can she keep up with the pace?" Yeah, wasn't Bank Heist's original title Bonnie and Clyde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yeah, wasn't Bank Heist's original title Bonnie and Clyde? Yep. Known WIP names of Bank Heist were: Bonnie and Clyde Holdup Roaring 20's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Yeah, wasn't Bank Heist's original title Bonnie and Clyde? Yep. Known WIP names of Bank Heist were: Bonnie and Clyde Holdup Roaring 20's Roaring 20's thats what I was thinking of Also ROTJ game 2 was a skiff desert game nothing even remotely close to Death Star Battle. The game would have had a totally different kernel,ect. Where did you here Jabba's Skiff turned into Death Star Battle? And in regards to AD&D, the blue sky rangers have all the mattel games on that list in different states of completion. And yes I personally think "Bear Game" could very well be Smokey The Bear but thats just my personal opinion. Edited November 10, 2008 by Shawn Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Also ROTJ game 2 was a skiff desert game nothing even remotely close to Death Star Battle. The game would have had a totally different kernel,ect. Where did you here Jabba's Skiff turned into Death Star Battle? DP: Can you tell me anything about the Game I and Game II prototype boxes? Larry Gelberg: Yeah, I remember seeing those images - they were just placeholders for trade shows and catalogs generated by PB's internal art department. Game II became Death Star Battle. I have no idea about the artwork used. Generally PB went out-of-house for much of the cover art. I used to have a copy of the Hildebrandt cover - it was pretty neat with an AT-ST shooting down a hang glider carrying a terrified-looking Ewok. I had a whole package of Ewok-related stuff - the cover art, a full printout of the source code, and another NTSC prototype that I gave away to a friend's brother about 15 years ago. He's tried to locate it, but thinks it might be in a moving box in a storage center somewhere in Connecticut. It might be worth trying to dig up! And in regards to AD&D, the blue sky rangers have all the mattel games on that list in different states of completion. You're talking about D&D III? That one became ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS TOWER OF MYSTERY Cartridge And yes I personally think "Bear Game" could very well be Smokey The Bear but thats just my personal opinion. Well, Smokey Bear (not Smokey the Bear) was announced by Data Age, not by SEGA and I don't think kids were allowed to shoot at Smokey with a gun. Besides that, the "Bear Game" proto was similar to a SEGA circuit board: http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0 http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Game 2 was for sure nothing like Death Star Battle. Game 2 might have been scraped in favor of making DSB but there is no way in hell they are one in the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Game 2 was for sure nothing like Death Star Battle. Game 2 might have been scraped in favor of making DSB but there is no way in hell they are one in the same. http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=305671 FYI: that's Larry Gelberg talking again. Edited November 10, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Couple more vapourware games that weren't mentioned. I saw in a Silica Shop game mag (Uk Gamers will remember this famous store) back in 83 two games by Imagic that were suppossed to be coming soon. They were Scuba and Zone. The price was set for 29.99 sterling. I asked Rob Fulop if he knew about these two but he said no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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