PeteD Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't believe GB64 numbers, especially when it has stuff like http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=3213&d=18&h=0 in. That was just a demo we did back in the day and it keeps getting put on C64 sites as either a game or at least a game preview. lol Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't believe GB64 numbers, especially when it has stuff like http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=3213&d=18&h=0 in. That was just a demo we did back in the day and it keeps getting put on C64 sites as either a game or at least a game preview. lol Atleast it looks like a game preview, so don't be surprised why people think it is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't believe GB64 numbers, especially when it has stuff like http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=3213&d=18&h=0 in. That was just a demo we did back in the day and it keeps getting put on C64 sites as either a game or at least a game preview. lol Atleast it looks like a game preview, so don't be surprised why people think it is one. i'm still surprised by how it's classified; "Shoot'em Up - H-Scrolling" indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 The surprise comes after years of telling them and other websites who have it listed as a game preview, that it isn't/wasn't/never was going to be I suppose it's up to whoever runs the sites if they want to leave it in their db but we thought they'd like to know it wasn't just for histories sake. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't believe GB64 numbers, especially when it has stuff like http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=3213&d=18&h=0 in. That was just a demo we did back in the day and it keeps getting put on C64 sites as either a game or at least a game preview. lol Atleast it looks like a game preview, so don't be surprised why people think it is one. i'm still surprised by how it's classified; "Shoot'em Up - H-Scrolling" indeed... lol yeah I hadn't even noticed that. Shows how much research they do. Methinks that has propagated from another site with it listed as a "game preview" Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Whether educational programs should be included in such databases could also be discussed. There are just tons and tons on both platforms... I'm sure you can add at least 1,000 entries to GB64 and 300 records to Atarimania with all the American stuff. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) I suggest an apology is in order, don't you think? To Caramel? So he can go on with his moronic antics? Considering what you said to Rockford, I also find this a bit of a joke... -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Oh you're one of those:.....'but look what YOU said'....makes it alright, does it? Anyway, Rocky Mountains resigned to the fact that I was right in the end, so there (see I can do that too) Edited September 26, 2009 by frenchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Of course, C64 users see this and go, way hey 20600 games released for C64, COOOOL! Actually, we don't... no more than Atarians take the 8,000 plus total at AtariMania as an actual count of titles because it contains multiple entries for the same game, homebrew, Boulder Dash levels, missing titles and so on as well. At most it can demonstrate that there were more C64 than A8 games, but after that... Yes, Andym00 does believe so indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Of course, C64 users see this and go, way hey 20600 games released for C64, COOOOL! Actually, we don't... no more than Atarians take the 8,000 plus total at AtariMania as an actual count of titles because it contains multiple entries for the same game, homebrew, Boulder Dash levels, missing titles and so on as well. At most it can demonstrate that there were more C64 than A8 games, but after that... Yes, Andym00 does believe so indeed. We = Plural, Andym00 = singular Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 It appears Learning with Leaper on atari was designed with NTSC artifacting as a consideration. Here is a screenshot with emulated artifacting via atari800 emulator NTSC filter: (click to see in larger size) Not a huge difference, but reminds us to be careful when putting too much emphasis on screenshots for these comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 The surprise comes after years of telling them and other websites who have it listed as a game preview, that it isn't/wasn't/never was going to be Most game previews never were going to be a game, otherwise they had become a game I think for them anything which looks like a game but isn't quite a game is a "game preview". How else would you define it anyway? There are thousands of reasons why a game project might have been stopped, and some of them were just meant to be prototypes or not even that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 The surprise comes after years of telling them and other websites who have it listed as a game preview, that it isn't/wasn't/never was going to be Most game previews never were going to be a game, otherwise they had become a game I think for them anything which looks like a game but isn't quite a game is a "game preview". How else would you define it anyway? There are thousands of reasons why a game project might have been stopped, and some of them were just meant to be prototypes or not even that. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying, I've written enough "previews" in my time. I'm just stating goldrunner demo WASN'T one of them It wasn't "stopped" it wasn't a "prototype" it was a demo for a laugh, never one iota of intention to continue it past a demo, not sure why you're trying to tell me otherwise as I was the one who coded 1/2 of it? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym00 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yes, Andym00 does believe so indeed. Personally I don't give a parrots shit if it's 20 or 20,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying, I've written enough "previews" in my time. I'm just stating goldrunner demo WASN'T one of them It wasn't "stopped" it wasn't a "prototype" it was a demo for a laugh, never one iota of intention to continue it past a demo, not sure why you're trying to tell me otherwise as I was the one who coded 1/2 of it? Gamebase64 is mostly made by gamers not scene people. They often do strange decisions, for example for them a crack is automatically better if it has "more trainers", no matter if it works or not or if the other version is on a single diskside and the one they chose is on 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yes, Andym00 does believe so indeed. Personally I don't give a parrots shit if it's 20 or 20,000 Hey you said you won't be back til monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Isn't Mr. Do!'s Castle only 8K on the Atari? Anyway, it may have to do with the fact that Parker Brothers wanted to release the game on cartridge in the first place. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Parker Brothers games were all cartridge only unlike the Sega licences on both formats as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't believe GB64 numbers, especially when it has stuff like http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=3213&d=18&h=0 in. That was just a demo we did back in the day and it keeps getting put on C64 sites as either a game or at least a game preview. lol Pete Gamebase64 includes many many games from typed in listings for a start. And then there are 100s of coverdisks from magazines of similar games that weren't released by a proper published (just the magazine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockford Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Same company as Zaxxon, those morons did not know how to program for Atari, probably took you awhile to find a title from that era that looked better than a8 You will be surprised how easy it is Today another full budget game from "golden era of Atari"... I wonder what went wrong this time ? bad programming ? ... more love for C64 ? 26 - Mr. DO'S CASTLE C64 C64 C64 The C64 version has better graphics, animation, sprites and plays fast and fluid. The atari version has ugly sprites, poor animation and works slower (even though the play area is smaller ). C64 wins again. ATARI ATARI ATARI looks like nothing went wrong Atari 8 is clearly closer to the arcade version. How do I know for sure. I own this full sized arcade machine. The Atari is clearly superior. Thanks for the help Rockford! Excellent joke You know, in the kingdom of the blind the man with one eye is king By the way, thanks for admitting that the C64 version is even better than the original one from arcade. It really shows the power and superiority of C64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Excellent joke You know, in the kingdom of the blind the man with one eye is king By the way, thanks for admitting that the C64 version is even better than the original one from arcade. It really shows the power and superiority of C64. And exactly now Rocky Mountains is entering dreamland again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 It really shows the power and superiority of C64. I tell you what: For every title you can find, there is an other C64 title with a higher 'Lemon-rating' where the Atari version is even better. This is superiority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Parker Brothers games were all cartridge only unlike the Sega licences on both formats as far as I know. Wrong, Mr. Do's Castle and Montezuma's Revenge ended up as disk releases on C64 / Atari "flippies". Was Mr. Do's Castle also on cartridge on the C64? On the Atari, it was distributed in that format... in Canada only! -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockford Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) I suggest an apology is in order, don't you think? To Caramel? So he can go on with his moronic antics? Considering what you said to Rockford, I also find this a bit of a joke... -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Oh you're one of those:.....'but look what YOU said'....makes it alright, does it? Anyway, Rocky Mountains resigned to the fact that I was right in the end, so there (see I can do that too) OH DEAR :!: .....you were right... but when? who? what? how? .....as STE said you are REALLY priceless BTW, teach me again about the word "digitalize" or show us some more games like "Night Driver" You know, the discussion has become boring recently, so we are all waiting impatiently for your "ingenious posts" Edited September 26, 2009 by Rockford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 You can put them with rating on the list: Mercenary (EFT): 8.3 Mercenary (TSC): 7 Frogger II: 7.8 Alternate Reality (TC): 7.9 Alternate Reality (TD): 8.5 O'Riley's Mine: 7.3 Mr. Robot: 8.2 Oils Well: 7.5 Space Shuttle: 7.2 Colossus Chess 4: 8.4 Chess 7.0: 8.5 So, now you can put your 'Fantasic Soccer 2.9' crap on the list (BTW: C64 Amaurote has 4.8 and seems more relevant then...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Same company as Zaxxon, those morons did not know how to program for Atari, probably took you awhile to find a title from that era that looked better than a8 You will be surprised how easy it is Today another full budget game from "golden era of Atari"... I wonder what went wrong this time ? bad programming ? ... more love for C64 ? 26 - Mr. DO'S CASTLE C64 C64 C64 The C64 version has better graphics, animation, sprites and plays fast and fluid. The atari version has ugly sprites, poor animation and works slower (even though the play area is smaller ). C64 wins again. ATARI ATARI ATARI looks like nothing went wrong Atari 8 is clearly closer to the arcade version. How do I know for sure. I own this full sized arcade machine. The Atari is clearly superior. Thanks for the help Rockford! Excellent joke You know, in the kingdom of the blind the man with one eye is king By the way, thanks for admitting that the C64 version is even better than the original one from arcade. It really shows the power and superiority of C64. Nice try, obviously the c64 version is inferior,not bad just inferior. You really do not listen you know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchman Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) .....you were right... Thanks, of course I am right, as always. Edited September 26, 2009 by frenchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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