Irgendwer Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Hi, here are the CMI08 (second place of the Abbuc Hardware Contest) ordering conditions: complete kit (without housing) price is 26,- EUR add shipping: DE: 3,- EUR, EU: 5,- EUR, World: 7,- EUR add 5,- EUR if you like to have at least the small SMD parts (56 pins) soldered to the PCB (recommended for all non master solders). The remaining pins (about 70) are 'do-it-yourself'! orders with the subject "Order CMI08", the number of kits and the SMD solder wish (yes/no) and complete shipping address toC. Krueger. B (at) web. de (without blanks and @ (spam protection)) after order german bank account or PayPal will be provided by email you can find the assembly instruction and manual in english and german (PDF) attached below CU Irgendwer PS: The interface is suitable for Atari 400/800/XL/XE, VCS xxxx, C64 and other machines which work with standard paddles CMI08Manual.zip Edited May 30, 2009 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi, the CMI08 (second place of the Abbuc Hardware Contest) is ready for binding advance orders complete kit (without housing) price (depends on number of orders) max. 30,- EUR / 40,- US$ add shipping: DE: 3,- EUR, EU: 3,50 EUR, World: 5,50 EUR / 7,- US$ add 5,- EUR / 6,- US$ if you like to have at least the small SMD parts (56 pins) soldered to the PCB (recommended for all non master solders). The remaining pins (about 70) are 'do-it-yourself'! orders with the subject "Order CMI08", the number of kits and the SMD solder wish (yes/no) and complete shipping address toC. B. Krueger (at) web. de (without blanks and @ (spam protection)) orders are taken until mid of December, then the final price, german bank account or PayPal will be provided by email you can find the manuals here: English version (at least I tried it ): http://www.file-upload.net/download-127103...nualEN.pdf.html German version: http://www.file-upload.net/download-125828...nualDE.pdf.html CU Irgendwer PS: The interface is suitable for Atari 400/800/XL/XE, VCS xxxx, C64 and other machines which work with standard paddles (so feel free to make advertising even in foreign forums to lower the price per unit... ) Pre-order sent! Looks like a cool project. Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Guys This is a cool project.It works on Atari XL,2600 and 7800. I own one of the protos. greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) Hi, I've got feedback of potential customers which wonder, if the interface will also fit to their XE models. Yes, it fits. Beside the solution to work with a Y-joystick cable to plug interface and a joystick simultaneously to a port and just use the device which is supported by the running software (my configuration ), you can use also a joystick extension cord. Since the hardware is a kit and comes with no casing, additionally the following solution can be applied: * remove the surrounding borders of the connector before soldering it to the PCB - ready! Here a photo of the connector on the PCB when it is plugged into the XE. The photo shows prototype board with no additional parts for better inspection. It also works with two interfaces in both ports. There are no parts in the port area which prevent the connection. An additional photo shows the modified connector. The screws, metal facing and roughly the sides will already be removed when shipped, since the board does not support the hole for the mounting clamp. Removing the top border and the sides neatly is a 5 min task. Obviously you can also solder a full equipped 9-pin cable directly to the interface if you like to build a nice housing. CU Irgendwer Edited November 27, 2008 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepax Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Cool, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 For indecisive customers I have made a little video, showing the CMI08 in action; CMI08 Demo Video Please note: Monday is last day for pre-orders! CU Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Hi, the major part of kits were shipped today. Since I didn't get payment for all pre-orders: The request for payment was sent last weekend, please may check your spam folder if you ordered and didn't get the email. I also like to inform you, that I have some spare kits (final price is EUR 26,- per kit, SMD/shipping see above), so if you like to order a kit now, it's possible that I can satisfy the demand (first come, first serve). Thank you for all orders Irgendwer Edited January 29, 2009 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Guitarman Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 PM Sent Hi, the major part of kits were shipped today. Since I didn't get payment for all pre-orders: The request for payment was sent last weekend, please may check your spam folder if you ordered and didn't get the email. I also like to inform you, that I have some spare kits (final price is EUR 26,- per kit, SMD/shipping see above), so if you like to order a kit now, it's possible that I can satisfy the demand (first come, first serve). Thank you for all orders Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Hi, the major part of kits were shipped today. Since I didn't get payment for all pre-orders: The request for payment was sent last weekend, please may check your spam folder if you ordered and didn't get the email. I also like to inform you, that I have some spare kits (final price is EUR 26,- per kit, SMD/shipping see above), so if you like to order a kit now, it's possible that I can satisfy the demand (first come, first serve). Thank you for all orders Irgendwer Got mine in the mail today! Can't wait to assemble it. I'll try to take pictures during assembly. Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajero_pn Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Was Cmi08 tested with computer XEGS ??? Example: 65XE/800XL..min=4...max=228...........is OK XEGS.............min=4...max=197-206.....Value oscillation Greeting Pajero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Will a USB to PS2 adaptor worth with this unit? I was thinking of using a wireless mouse that has a USB reciever and a PS2 adaptor to interface with this unit for paddle use on my ATARI 2600 & 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 Was Cmi08 tested with computer XEGS ??? No, there wasn't a dedicated test with XEGS. But I'm surprised you have this problem. To rise the upper value you can exchange the two mega-ohm-resistors to resistors with even a bigger value (e.g. 3 MOhm) - a stabilization could also be an effect then, since the potentiometers don't have to operate on their end of range which may is the reason for the jitter. Have you tried real paddles? If they also show the behaviour, your XEGS seems to be the origin of the problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Will a USB to PS2 adaptor worth with this unit? I was thinking of using a wireless mouse that has a USB reciever and a PS2 adaptor to interface with this unit for paddle use on my ATARI 2600 & 7800. If your mouse supports a PS/2 adaptor (which sounds so, as it was delivered with the device?), there is no reason why it wouldn't work with the interface. I have here an optical Logitech-USB-mouse with adaptor too, and it works very well. But not all USB mice supports these adaptors! (Device specific feature!) Edited January 13, 2010 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajero_pn Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 CMI-08. Built inside a computer. To the joystick port - permanently. Not connected mouse. 10 ?PADDLE(0) ; CMI-08 gives the 112 value. If you are connecting a Paddle. Paddle shows the wrong values. Can I turn off the CMI 08 ? Atmel has a pin CE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) ... If you are connecting a Paddle. Paddle shows the wrong values. Can I turn off the CMI 08 ? Atmel has a pin CE? * if connecting Paddles simultaneously to the CMI08, the resistors operate parallel - therefore the wrong value * you are not able to turn off the CMI08. Even if there would be something like a CE for the Atmel, the chain of resistors would be still connected to the paddle pins * it is imaginable to enhance the CMI08 with an additional 'switch off' logic, but this would mean, that major parts of the CMI08 have to change: Additional CMOS switch IC as well as a bigger AVR. (The used AVR is fully occupied with pin assignments - it isn't even possible to change it's logic by the ISP interface.) * to cover your need, it sounds more practicable to add a simple 2 signal separation switch, connected to the paddle pins internally Irgendwer BTW: I have still a small amount of spare kits. Edit: BTW2: Did you resolved your issue from "Jan 9, 2010"? Some feedback would be nice! Edited June 27, 2010 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) I enhanced the firmware: There is now an additional Amiga mouse emulation for the few titles which support this device connected to the 8-bits: 1.) middle button/scroll wheel click (configure) 2.) left click 3.) right click = AtariST mouse emulation 1.) middle button/scroll wheel click (configure) 2.) right click 3.) left click = Amiga mouse emulation So you get now five modes in total. Edited November 7, 2010 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Is it possible to update the firmware in the existing devices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Is it possible to update the firmware in the existing devices? Sorry for being late, but I just discovered your posting. As we all know ( ), you socketed the µC. So it would be possible to reprogram the device and use the new firmware. But IMHO the very few Amiga-Mouse only titles are not worth the effort/shipping costs. Patching those applications for ST-mouse mode seems easier to me. I added the mode only because it was easy and I had space left in the µC. BR Irgendwer Edited January 7, 2011 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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