Starcat Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Hi Guys ! I'm a bit confused about Phase Zero... There have always been rumors that the Source Code was destroyed, because the developers were ripped off by atari... I read that Songbird Productions got the rights to PZ. Did Carl also get the source code ? Or *just* the official rights to release the proto on cartridge ? Regards, Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 from what i understand ( i could be wrong ) he is working on a full version.... i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztee Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Hi Guys, From what I understand, Carl got the rights to publish the demo cart, & if they guys who originally started to develop PZ can find the source code then he can have that too. Meaning that he will be able to finish the game. I am sure Carl will correct us at some point Later Gaztee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcat Posted September 13, 2002 Author Share Posted September 13, 2002 Hi Guys ! Having a complete version of Phase zero would be incredible :-) especially with that network feature (which doesn't work in the demo) and more levels. It could become the 2nd best network game on the Jag, after BS :-) Regards, Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Here's what I can tell you: * The developers of Phase Zero were quite surprised that anybody cared about their game nowadays or even thought it was that good (the PZ demo is more fun than several published Jag games IMHO). * They believe the demo that has been floated around is probably very close to the last version they had worked on. They didn't have a copy of the game or even a binary of it, so I sent them a free cartridge. * They gave me permission to do "whatever I want" with Phase Zero on the Jaguar, although they are retaining copyrights. * They are positive they have the complete source and dev tools somewhere on a CDR, but it's been at least 5 years since they saw it. If they can find it, they will send it to me. While making the demo available to Jag fans is a good start, of course my long-term hope is that I can get the source and build a bunch of new missions. And if they actually had the network code running / close to running, even better. But naturally there are no promises in any of this, so please don't assume a new version of PZ is coming out in the near future. Even if I get the source AND it's a complete archive, it will likely take a year or more to properly finish the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Oh well, at least we can hope in the future for now do you still have that special with the PZ demo cart and that JagCD pic disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 The guy who actually WROTE most of Phase Zero (and also happened to be the guy who STARTED the company that developed it by using money he was awarded in a lawsuit against another person who nearly killed him with an automobile) was kicked out of his own company some time ago and had nothing nice to say about his former employees. Among other things he said about their business practices, he said that they discarded the computer containing the source and it was gone forever. He also said that networking never was even started. This is backed up by the fact that they were trying to get the BattleSphere network code from me a very short time before they quit working on the game. At one point they even tried to get Atari to get the source from us under some technicality that they needed to inspect it to make sure we were doing it properly. LOL! Oh the tales we could tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 So, Thunderbird, I know from the past you haven't exactly been a fan of these people, IIRC, but was it anyone in particular that you had a bone to pick with; like the guy who started the company, the people that kicked him out, or just the whole bunch in general? It was basically because they degraded your team and the Battlesphere project wasn't it? That I find hilarious; not the fact that they did this, but the fact that you guys completed your game(s) in a professional way and have the best game(s) on the Jag and that they never even completed the one game...guess you guys showed them who the professionals are... :wink: I do still think that Phase Zero could have been a top rated Jag game too, going by what is completed, it, like Battlesphere, really shows off some Jaguar computing power and it's still better than many so called "completed" Jag games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tst89 Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Hi Carl, if you got all the things from the former developer of PZ, on which medium (catridge or CD) would you bring us the finished Phase Zero? Regards, TST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I wonder if Carl ever got the source code to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Was bumping this thread really necessary? Would not starting a new thread while leaving an old thread dead and buried be better?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Was bumping this thread really necessary? Would not starting a new thread while leaving an old thread dead and buried be better?? Why is this such a Taboo? I dont get it. This thread has the relevant information on the subject. Everyone can read the above few posts and be brought up to speed on what was said etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I don't see much difference between adding new info to an old thread versus creating a second newer thread that doesn't include the history. BTW I am fairly certain the answer is NO the source code has never turned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 As a big fan of what's happened in the past, I think old thread bumping is great. Gives you a chance to read something you missed, plus... it's kind of a form of recycling. :-) Anyway, It'd be nice if Phase Zero was enhanced and finished, Especially the networking feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I wonder if Carl ever got the source code to this? I think if he did, we would probably know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I wonder if Carl ever got the source code to this? I think if he did, we would probably know. I dunno about that. He's been pretty tight lipped in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Was bumping this thread really necessary? Would not starting a new thread while leaving an old thread dead and buried be better?? OK in the future I'll post a link instead or something. Dunno why everyone gets their knickers in a twist over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 OK in the future I'll post a link instead or something. Dunno why everyone gets their knickers in a twist over this. If you read Albert's post from last week, you'll see there have been a few issues with AA that he's been trying to eradicate (the size of the posts table in the db seems quite large and there is a possibility that old posts are going to be archived - I'm not sure of those plans are still in place or not after the server upgrade). Maybe while you're having fun trawling through 10+year old posts (it can be fun, I've done it myself), how about you start up a single thread, something like "JagChris' Jaguar Post Archaeology"? Post links in there to the old posts that interest you and that you want to discuss. That way it'd keep current topics easier to spot & keep the whole forum tidier and hopefully everyone happy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I wonder if Carl ever got the source code to this? I think if he did, we would probably know. I dunno about that. He's been pretty tight lipped in the past. And if he did get the source code and was willing to say so, he probably would have done something other than bumping an ancient thread for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 It was NOT for no reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Sorry, guys, I tried to get the source for several years but to no avail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 buddybuddies contacted one of the devs a little while back (maybe a year ago) and got the same answer, something along the lines of no source yet but the devs would be glad to share it if it were found. Really too bad considering the presence of numerous unfinished levels in the ROM... can't say for sure that anyone would actually do something significant with it anyway. always was impressed with the phase zero demo, the resolution was a little low and the interface was a little rough, but it was def. a fast game with some nice looking graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 always was impressed with the phase zero demo, the resolution was a little low and the interface was a little rough, but it was def. a fast game with some nice looking graphics. Beat all 4 1/2 levels last night For anyone that hasn't played this definitely check it out. Well worth a romp on your jaguar. It's kind of like Hoverstrike but faster more visually appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarBrett Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Beat all 4 1/2 levels last night For anyone that hasn't played this definitely check it out. Well worth a romp on your jaguar. It's kind of like Hoverstrike but faster more visually appealing. I think I've only played to level 3 I need to give it another play here soon. I agree the graphics and speed are definitely impressive. Would be fun multiplayer wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think I've only played to level 3 I need to give it another play here soon. I agree the graphics and speed are definitely impressive. Would be fun multiplayer wouldn't it? Yes definitely, split screen would rock! Having strafe right to the left and right of shoot works really well. The only thing that's a little cumbersome is switching weapons when you are under fire, you sort of have to run off to a quiet area and switch before heading back in guns blazing. The later levels are fun, check them out when you have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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