MegaManFan Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=1380184922 The other copy on eBay is going for $78 and hasn't even met the reserve; and if you ask me BOTH of them are overpriced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 How much did you pay for yours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 Where are the picture at this auction????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 Where are the picture at this auction????? Unfortunately not everyone uses pictures in their auctions. If someone can't spend the time to take a reasonably clear picture of an item they're selling (especially an item with an opening bid of $120), then I'm not going to take the time to bid on their auction. Also the use of all UPPER CASE LETTERS in his auction descriptions is another turnoff. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 The other copy on eBay is going for $78 and hasn't even met the reserve; and if you ask me BOTH of them are overpriced. Crazy Climber is a rarity 8, so, those prices really aren't out of line. I personally wouldn't bid on such a high price game without a picture though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcprs1 Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 $120 is a bit much for crazy climber. I would think that the average price is more like $70-$100. Still, I would expect to see a picture if I am going to shell out $120. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Paying over $100 for this game is not unreasonable. $120 is not his opening bid, it's his buy price. If you bid on this game at $120, you're an idiot to not just buy it. Personally I would ask for a picture since you can't know what kind of label wear,tears, or writing it may have. As for being overpriced, the last Crazy Climber I sold went for like $129, but that was probably 2 years ago. Very hard to come by. I've only had 3 in my life and that includes the one in my collection. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Paying over $100 for this game is not unreasonable. $120 is not his opening bid, it's his buy price. Look again, the opening bid is indeed $120. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Ok, maybe you misunderstood that. He put his opening bid AND his buy it now at the same price of $120.00. This meant he wants $120.00 for the cartridge, no more. I just stated that anyone who bids on it instead of using the buy it now at $120.00 is an idiot because they would be wasting their money if they paid more for it. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Okay, yes, I see what you mean. But he probably would have had better luck if he just set a reasonable starting bid ($1!!) and then set the reserve to the BIN price. At least then he would have gotten *SOME* bids and more general interest in the auction. He obviously just wants $120 for it. But not having a picture for an item like that is not going to encourage most people to bid, especially when you're only option is $120. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 The problem with putting a price high and especially the same as your buy it now is that you are not seeing what the market allows. If there are 5 people in the world wanting a Crazy Climber at a high price, you will see the market activity. So if this person does research on past complete auctions he may see $135 as an average sell price. One problem is supply and demand. So we say these 5 people are willing to pay $100 for the game. Let's also say 3 of these people will pay $135.00. Now we move on to the first auction 3 weeks ago when there was a supposed copy of this game. The seller sees this auction end with a bid of $135.87 or something like that. That leaves 2 people willing to pay $100, and 2 more willing to pay $135.00. 1 week later, a 2nd copy goes up and it ends at $136.50. Now we have 2 people wanting to pay $100, and 1 person left for $135.00. So now this guy comes along and puts $120.00 on his cart. If this last person who is willing to pay the $135 still needs the cart because he didn't find one in the wild for $1.00, or possibly caught one just before this guy got his on, then he'll get his $120 from the last buyer. If not, he has only 2 people left who will pay $100, so he will not get his $120. So as Al said, if he starts his bid at $1.00 with a buy it now at $120.00, or even a reserve AND buy it now at $120.00, then he will be able to see that the market left in the world will only tolerate a $100 bid. This will give him an option of not selling if he had his reserve, and on top of that, he may make an immoral and according to ebay an illegal side deal with the high bidder trying to coax him to his asking price. So in the end, the seller will gain knowledge of the market and possibly a sale. If this is confusing, read it a couple more times. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett6400 Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 yeah. the seller really doesn't understand ebay pricing if he set both the opening bid at $120 and the buy-it-now price at $120. that doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 In my understanding for this auction start 120.00, seem some of ebayers buyers think it too high for opening bid, and there is no picture description what cartirage's coditions. That why bidders seem not willing to bid this auction. My self as E-bay seller, I would have to be careful what it worth for Atari's cartridge and coditions. I rather pefer opeing bid to keep low as $1.00 or $9.99. That would be more interesting to see how many bidders to bid. Or other choice can set up "revesre met". Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted September 16, 2002 Author Share Posted September 16, 2002 How much did you pay for yours ? I bid $75 on the other auction (the one that DID have a picture of the game) but it wasn't enough to meet the reserve price; and I think the auction closed this weekend w/o a winning bid. As someone else said $120 is too much for an OPENING bid on a rare game; especially on an auction with no picture to show label condition. If the seller had set an opening bid of $10 and included a nice picture of it, I would probably have gone that high on it. In the last month I've paid $42 for a Death Trap, $45 for a Rubik's Cube, and $50 for a Gas Hog - and they're all on the "8 out of 10" list. I'm willing to shell out more for Crazy Climber because I know it's an arcade home port and more in demand for that reason, but I don't think a Tooth Protectors or Quadrun type price is justified for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella'sGhost Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 This makes no difference to me as there is no picture, and I never bid without a picture, and you guys shouldn't either. It also has to be a clear picture, not an out of focus badly lit and grainy one. Otherwise its a risk, sure, the picture could be fake, but I have not come across this personally yet... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted September 22, 2002 Author Share Posted September 22, 2002 1. Lower the opening bid to $10 to encourage bidding.2. Set a more reasonable Buy It Now. This game is only an 8 out of 10 on AtariAge. Rare, but not THAT rare. 3. Include two pictures of the cartridge: the top (art) label and the end (title) label. Pics add value. Regards, Steve Juon (sjuon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I still think this is THAT rare. It's not impossible, but definitely a $100 game every time, if not more. How many of you who are posting in this thread actually own one. I've been collecting games since 1995. I've come across 2 in that time from the thousands of cartridges I've bought. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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