Jess Ragan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Surprise of the century... I wound up buying a system I ranted about both here and on my web site. Anyway, I purchased a PS3 on eBay for a ridiculously cheap price. The only catch is that the Blu-Ray drive is boned. Evidently the last owner's kids shoved a disc into the slot, screwing it up. He fished the old disc out but now it won't load anything, so it's up to me to put the system back in working condition. Has anyone attempted to repair a PS3? Do you know if the problems with this drive are mechanical, or if the laser itself was somehow destroyed? I'll post pictures of the drive at a later date once I get the system in the mail and have time to crack 'er open. I'm hoping I can get the machine back on its feet, not just to have another plaything around the house, but for the sense of satisfaction in bringing the behemoth back to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yow. Getting something stuck is bad enough, fishing it out sounds even worse. Usually people destroy the mechs when I hear things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 A friend of mine works on PS3's regularly, I'll show him this thread and see what he thinks. Also, need more info: model number is the main thing. Most likely you'll have to replace the drive and the laser, but I'll ask. Also I'll see if I can get a deal on parts for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 A friend of mine works on PS3's regularly, I'll show him this thread and see what he thinks. Also, need more info: model number is the main thing. Most likely you'll have to replace the drive and the laser, but I'll ask. Also I'll see if I can get a deal on parts for you. Would you? Oh man, that'd be fantastic! Thanks! It's an 80 gigger, that's all I know right now. I suspect it's software BC, but I'm not certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The one thing I really don't like about ANY new tech is that it's so frekkin expensive, even in parts. I can say I'll try, and try really hard. Definitely need the model number and the serial number from the console, though, to nail down which parts you might need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) As soon as I receive the system, I'll send that information your way. Don't know when that is, though... delivery is kind of pokey around here so I suspect it won't be until Monday. Edited October 1, 2009 by Jess Ragan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hope you can raise it from the dead Jess...Just in time for Halloween too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 It's an 80 gigger, that's all I know right now. I suspect it's software BC, but I'm not certain. Unless it was a Metal Gear Solid Bundle 80gb unit, it won't be BC, sorry to say. Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 What's the breakdown on backward compatibility by model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xg4bx Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 if it has 4 usb slots, its backwards compatible. the 60 gig and the 4 usb 80 gig were the only bc models to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 What's the breakdown on backward compatibility by model? The launch 40gb and 60gb were the only units that did BC via chip. The PS3 that came in the Medal Gear Solid 80gb Bundle (Model #CECHE01) did software based BC. All systems do PS1 BC. Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Go Jess go! A nice Halloween present it will be if you get it working. Will it play anything at all? Does it make noises or anything? You can try a cleaner too but I think pulling a disc out by force like that may have damaged it. Maybe need a new laser etc. This guy may help, it doesnt show PS3 stuff but just ask: http://www.richspsxparts.com/ Edited October 1, 2009 by cimerians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Still don't have it. The person sent it to me via FedEx today so (as I'd expected) I probably won't receive it until Monday at the earliest. It's the price you pay for, well, a cheap price. I'll look into that store if NathanAllen's friend can't set me up with a good deal. EDIT: Oh man, it won't be here until Wednesday?! What a friggin' burn. Edited October 3, 2009 by Jess Ragan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) It's Wednesday, and it's here! I noticed that the system had been updated to 3.00 (complete with the new PS3 logo replacing the Spiderman movie logo on bootup) and heard that this was responsible for a lot of units going haywire. I'm going to see if there's a software solution before cracking it open and screwing around with the insides. EDIT: Okay, I try to eject and I just get three angry chirps. I thought this guy said he was at least able to get the discs to pop in and out? Huh, I'll have to contact him about this. Edited October 7, 2009 by Jess Ragan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ... Yeah, contact him, and also check the description. Happy to scour for parts, but first things first. Sorry to hear about this for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Here's his response: "To elaborate if there was confusion. I initially had got the ps3 to insert and eject discs. However the ps3 would not read them. After initial attempts to make drive work I was able to get ps3 to partially read the disc but as with current status the disc wouldn't eject. At that point I gave up and just labeled drive broken. Personally I think the drive can be fixed by fooling around with it as I got different progress based on trial and error. There are YouTube and instructions out there for that. However I'd rather label drive as broken then give false hope as i'm unsure. Unit was used probably 20-30 times max." So it looks like I won't be able to avoid disassembling the system. No biggie, that's what I counted on anyway. Just hoping I'll be able to use a flathead screwdriver rather than a Torx (have not had much luck with those). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The european ps3 launch models used a combination between hardware and software to get bc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Here's his response: "To elaborate if there was confusion. I initially had got the ps3 to insert and eject discs. However the ps3 would not read them. After initial attempts to make drive work I was able to get ps3 to partially read the disc but as with current status the disc wouldn't eject. At that point I gave up and just labeled drive broken. Personally I think the drive can be fixed by fooling around with it as I got different progress based on trial and error. There are YouTube and instructions out there for that. However I'd rather label drive as broken then give false hope as i'm unsure. Unit was used probably 20-30 times max." So it looks like I won't be able to avoid disassembling the system. No biggie, that's what I counted on anyway. Just hoping I'll be able to use a flathead screwdriver rather than a Torx (have not had much luck with those). I would send it to Sony to get it fixed. EDIT: If you insist on trying it yourself: http://www.consoleshop.com/home.php?cat=308 (Not much cheaper than sending it to Sony). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) I would send it to Sony to get it fixed. Agreed. Even out of warranty (if it is) the unit shouldn't cost you too much to get fixed I wouldn't think. Get it fixed by the people who made it. http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/151605-no-video-or-sound/page__view__findpost__p__1852887 Edited October 8, 2009 by moycon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 The previous owner had opened it already, voiding the warranty and greatly lessening the chance that Sony would bother with it. Besides, how cool would it be if I could get this back on its feet on my own? Very cool! Anyway, I've got the machine open, and here's the news on the Blu-Ray drive. There was a copy of Beauty and the Beast shoved in there, which I quickly removed. I'm not sure what drive type this is, although I've been pretty thorough in taking it apart. I see the code 08Z09F printed in white on the plastic, and an additional code, A4D0454577, printed on a small white sticker along with a barcode. Does any of this help? Also, the white plastic arms holding the plastic spindle are reluctant to move, making me wonder if that could be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The PS3's had various drives in various models-- what model is yours? It ought to be on the sticker on the outer case. Go from there, it will help you determine which drive you should get. They seem to have made them like the PS2-- different factories using different hardware to achieve the same specs. Or something like that. I have 2 PS2's that are identical on the outside but parts will not swap between them. Same with the PSP's. So, what's the model number on the outside of the thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) All the information I could get from the drive was listed in the previous post. A4D0454577 08Z09F Update: Even with the old disc flushed out, the drive refuses to take discs. There's something blocking the discs, and pressing the eject button just results in the same three angry beeps I got originally. Edited October 8, 2009 by Jess Ragan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 The pictures are crappy, but it's the best I can do with what I've got. The problem I'm having right now seems to be mechanical. As you can see from the pictures, the drive arms will rotate properly, but there's a plastic pin blocking access to the drive, and nothing I've done can make it go down. I've got no idea what the deal is with that. Presumably it locks the disc inside while in use, but all it's doing now is locking discs OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 One other thing... after careful examination, I was able to determine that the drive is a KEM-410 CCA (it's engraved on a metal part of the drive mechanism in very tiny letters). Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_c Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) i was having the same problem with the broken PS3 i bought. found this page and it helped a little. it doesn't exactly say how to get the post down, but somehow i figured it out. now the disc loads and ejects, it just doesn't read. i mainly bought this PS3 to use as a network video player so the broken drive doesn't so much bother me, in fact the drive is sitting here on my desk. http://www.wikihow.com/Realign-Your-Ps3%27s-Blu-Ray-So-That-a-Disc-Can-Load-and-Eject The pictures are crappy, but it's the best I can do with what I've got. The problem I'm having right now seems to be mechanical. As you can see from the pictures, the drive arms will rotate properly, but there's a plastic pin blocking access to the drive, and nothing I've done can make it go down. I've got no idea what the deal is with that. Presumably it locks the disc inside while in use, but all it's doing now is locking discs OUT. Edited October 8, 2009 by frank_c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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