carmel_andrews Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Following on from the release/launch of this harmony cart for the 2600/vcs and also the increasing number of more homebrew/user written games/demo's and programs for the 2600/vcs bought me to bring up this thread 2600/vcs games/demo's etc and harmony games/demo's etc thread (either commercially available or homebrew/user written) All contributions welcome And i guess we could extend this thread to encompassing hardware projects, like AV mod's, supercharger alike devices, multi/flashcarts (like Krok cart/Cuttle cart etc) and any new joystick designs (homebrew or commercial) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Huh? Double. He doesn't even have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi CA. You do realize we have a whole forum dedicated to homebrew discussion, and an Atari 2600 programming subforum where authors show off their WIPs all the time, right? Its not exactly clear what this thread is trying accomplish that those forums don't already cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I've re-read that several times, and still can't make heads nor tails out of it. I think he wants a list of something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonner242 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Whatcha been drinkin lately Carmel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Whatcha been drinkin lately Carmel? I guess too much warm beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGtGruff Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I guess I'm the only person who (maybe) understood what Carmel was saying. He's suggesting it might be cool if we could create a collection of demo programs that show off the advantages of the Harmony cart or other 2600-related modifications or add-ons. For example, if someone were to create a new game controller, or adapt an existing non-2600 game controller to work on the 2600-- such as Best Electronic's cable for using a Jaguar controller with a 2600-- then someone could create a demo that shows something that's possible to do using that game comtroller that would be more difficult if not impossible to do with the standard game controllers. Suppose you could have a joystick with two independently-programmable fire buttons, then someone could do a demo that does one thing when you press one button, and something else when you press the other button, like one button for jumping and the other button for firing, while of course moving around by using the stick. Or someone could write a demo that shows off some of the things that are possible using the Harmony cart that would be impossible, or much more difficult to do, without the Harmony cart. These demos wouldn't have to be games, although obviously the main intention would be to hopefully inspire the creativity of game designers so they might start to incorporate these advantages into their games. And the demos wouldn't just demonstrate what's possible, they could also serve as coding examples so other programmers can see how it's done. But if I misunderstood what Carmel was saying, then [Emily Litella]"Nevermind![/Emily Litella] Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 But such projects would almost certianly have their own threads devoted to them :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGtGruff Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 But such projects would almost certianly have their own threads devoted to them :-/ Yeah, probably. I think Carmel was thinking it would be nice to have a central repository for stuff like that, so people could find all the demos easier without having to hunt for them all in separate threads? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalbugmann Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Carmel, everything you mention has their own Atari 2600 forum and threads dedicated to them - 2600 Hacks, 2600 Homebrews, & hardware forums. You have to check out those AA places and look around there to see something you might like to load up on the Harmony cartridge. And although the Harmony can run games like Pitfall II(sound chip or more RAM?) which has some extra hardware for more advanced gaming, it's really not a matter of what more the Harmony can do as much as the limitations inherent in the Atari VCS. Personally, I am looking forward to loading up some of Ian Bogost's VCS demos and those of his student's also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Whatcha been drinkin lately Carmel? I guess too much warm beer! Dude, is that your son in your avatar? the one with the shrinkwrapped WW??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGtGruff Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html I thought he gave up trying to collect all the hacks and demos and homebrews ("That way lies madness!"), and someone else took it over from him? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html I thought he gave up trying to collect all the hacks and demos and homebrews ("That way lies madness!"), and someone else took it over from him? Michael that's my understanding too. Wasn't it User42?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGtGruff Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html I thought he gave up trying to collect all the hacks and demos and homebrews ("That way lies madness!"), and someone else took it over from him? Michael that's my understanding too. Wasn't it User42?? Yes, I think you're right! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalbugmann Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html I thought he gave up trying to collect all the hacks and demos and homebrews ("That way lies madness!"), and someone else took it over from him? Michael That's pretty funny! - yeah it would be stressfull trying to keep up and collect- every single hack-n-homebrew binary and revision. I've been doing something like that with Jaguar, and it's kinda tough, and there was/is a lot less for that system. Rom did put out one 2600 Hacks/Homebrews gathering Zip, then hung that search up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Version 5.0 of ROM Hunter's collection is dated May 20, 2009, if that means anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler_26 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Rom Hunter has an excellent collection. Seems to update it about twice a year... http://www.atarimania.com/roms-MENU-2.html I thought he gave up trying to collect all the hacks and demos and homebrews ("That way lies madness!"), and someone else took it over from him? Michael Yep, i was mad enough to take over this job. It's not easy to keep up with all the hacks and homebrews that have been posted lately. So i dunno if i'll be able to post an update anytime soon but here's what i have so far: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/144662-atari-2600-hacks-and-homebrews-rom-collection-v1-2/page__p__1758233entry1758233 (Be sure to download the latest version from post #24) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Ummm, Rom is still collecting. http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/136509-rom-hunters-v4-old-era-collection-now-online/page__view__findpost__p__1857548 Nice to see other folks helping out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Ummm, Rom is still collecting. http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/136509-rom-hunters-v4-old-era-collection-now-online/page__view__findpost__p__1857548 Nice to see other folks helping out though. Not homebrew ROMs though Only ones from 1977 to 1992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Not homebrew ROMs though Only ones from 1977 to 1992. Ahh, I see. Got confused along the line. Just looked at my various collections. The one with homebrews in it isn't from Rom like I thought it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grafixbmp Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) I think he has stumbled on to something here even if he didn't mean to. It seems so far that most are using the Harmony to mass load all their games onto one cart and that's a great thing. But this may be a good place to demo some of the more complexed things that the Harmony can do when the ARM processor is used to it fullest. Speaking of which, where can we find tech specs/opcodes for that NXP 70MHz ARM7TDMI-S microcontroller? I had understood that it would be possible to create future games that used that chip to exploit the 2600 to it's fullest. A thread that talks tech about what the Harmony can do at "full power" sorta speak would be just what the doctor ordered. Possibly some simple guides of how they (the ARM 7 and the 6507) can work in tandem would be cool too. For starters, http://www.standardics.nxp.com/literature/leaflets/microcontrollers/pdf/lpc210x.pdf And here is an excerpt from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture ARM info.txt Ooo.. Got another good one http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/tod/NXP/8-bitToARMConversion_NoAudio/8-bitToARMConversion_NoAudio.html This is suppost to help with going from traditional 8/16 bit processor programing to 32 bit ARM Edited January 25, 2010 by grafixbmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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