3do... lcd or tube?

[nashnooga]

Just got my 3do from ax, am i better off playing it on my tube tv or lcd?

[the.golden.ax]

Tube if you use gun games but as guns are scarce... Maybe LCD, never tried before.

 

AX

[+remowilliams]

Picture quality wise, you're better off playing nearly every classic console on a CRT.

[mattyg]

Picture quality wise, you're better off playing nearly every classic console on a CRT.

 

agreed ,

 

however my main unit is permanently hooked up to an LCD and is not too bad , some 3DO games actually have 16:9 support and your best picture option is an 100hz 32inch CRT (if you can find one!)

 

 

PS - shouldn't this be moved to classic gaming?

[the.golden.ax]

 

PS - shouldn't this be moved to classic gaming?

 

To 2600 fans, 3do is modern gaming

 

AX

[nashnooga]

 

PS - shouldn't this be moved to classic gaming?

 

To 2600 fans, 3do is modern gaming

 

AX

 

 

Yup, thats what i was thinking, and that's why i posted it in modern, lol

[moycon]

We need a "Not quite modern, and yet not quite classic either" forum!! LOL

[the.golden.ax]

How about this:

 

70's, 80's, 90's and Today... Here on MIX AA FM.

 

Where you will hear such great hits from artists like

 

Atari!

 

Sega

 

Nintendo

 

and

 

Microsoft.

 

[cuts to clips of well known game music]

 

AX

[mattyg]

How about this:

 

70's, 80's, 90's and Today... Here on MIX AA FM.

 

Where you will hear such great hits from artists like

 

Atari!

 

Sega

 

Nintendo

 

and

 

Microsoft.

 

[cuts to clips of well known game music]

 

AX

 

......An adult contemporary easy listening soft rock new romantics with a little old skool rock type of forum you think? ......with just a touch of blugrass country jazz

Edited November 25, 2009 by mattyg

[Ze_ro]

In my opinion, any console that can't go beyond 480p looks better on a CRT. That includes the Wii. Upscaling just ruins the picture for me.

 

If anyone ever decides to make an LCD specifically tailored to non-HD resolutions, I would seriously consider buying one!

 

--Zero

[DaytonaUSA]

In my opinion, any console that can't go beyond 480p looks better on a CRT. That includes the Wii. Upscaling just ruins the picture for me.

 

If anyone ever decides to make an LCD specifically tailored to non-HD resolutions, I would seriously consider buying one!

 

--Zero

 

I totally agree. I end up playing my mid 90's consoles on my iMac or my 40" LCD TV most of the time, but they always look horrible. The CRT TV I bought a while back is in the main bedroom. I really should move it upstairs in the gaming room. I can't stand how even PS2 games look like blurry messes.

Edited December 14, 2009 by DaytonaUSA

[Mike 01Hawk]

I like how OP dropped the thread

 

Anyhoo.. as an original owner of a 3DO, I'll just say this: It dosen't matter what TV you play it on, you'll get sick of the system very quickly

 

Now that that's out of the way...

 

Since I'm whoring out this response... (I've posted it like 4 times so far) might as well post it up here as well Go HDTV CRT or go home

 

I was lucky enough to get a CRT HDTV just as they were being phased out of Best Buy.

 

 

At the end of 2007 I finally decided I was going to get a new TV so I could hook up all my game systems that were gathering dust in my closet. Now I wanted to be a purist and get a CRT but as you know CRT was on it's death bed in late 2007. Well, I took the plunge and got a Samsung Slimfit 30inch 16:9 CRT (TXT-3093) @ the local bestbuy for $525. Yeah.. it was expensive, but it was probably the best I could get that would provide the best of both worlds..... CRT so it'd be easy on my "SD" sourced systems, yet HDTV so the PS2 and going forward would look amazing as well. This thing has connections out the wazoo!!! I'd love to go SCART or RGB, but I need to just take my meds and realize I will never have 'perfection'.

 

Anyway, this TV plays nicely with the systems I've thrown @ it. I think there might be a bit of lag induced during play. I was playing Super Mario World on the SNES and my jumps seemed to be just a wee bit off, but I think that may be due to my crappy controller or just the fact that I'm a bit rusty with the game, after playing a bit longer on the game I got used to the feel. I'll need to test it out some more to make certain there isn't any noticeable lag introduced while gaming on this tv.

 

 

So, here are the systems and how they're hooked up and my quick impressions. Note, audio is over RCA L/R except for the HDMI connection. Stereo sound is produced by the TV, not separate speakers (which is something I may need to tackle down the road if I want 5.1 from the later systems).:

 

1) NES -> Composite -> Colors are a bit bloomy/blurry, but very liveable, there are issues with Super Mario Brothers, you can see extra background pixels on the left hand side, but I guess that's just the nature of the beast when it comes to overscan I think it's called.

 

2a) SNES -> Composite -> Same bloom/blurry as the NES, but liveable

2b) SNES -> S-video -> Colors are much better defined, also the clarity is a bit higher, BUT it does introduce the 'mask' (dither?) effect. It's a trade off to decide between the anti-aliasing affects of Composite, or the crisper/more-colorful image quality of S-Video

 

3) 3DO -> S-Video -> Works as expected. Good god the birth of 3D was very painful!!!

 

4) N64 -> S-Video -> Same dither issues using S-Vid like the SNES. Also, same problem with 3DO, the teething stage of 3D stinks!!! (I can fallback to Composite if I wish on the N64)

 

5) Gamecube -> Component -> Absolutely amazing, very impressive (tested F-Zero on it)

 

6) PS2 -> Component -> Very nice as well, (tested GT4 and SSX Tricky)

 

7) Xbox360 -> HDMI -> Eye candy galore as can be expected.

[MCHufnagel]

Mike 01Hawk, how is the geometry of that tube (i.e. bowing)? I heard that those slimfit Samsungs are hit or miss concerning that.

[Mike 01Hawk]

There is a very tiny bit. I only notice it when I'm searching for it and there is a long line (such as a score box or whatever).

 

The main thing that sucks w/ the TV is there's a 4x4 inch square in the upper left hand that is bright green/purple, fortunately though it goes away after the TV has been on for about 30 min.

 

It's not a perfect TV, but it's very livable and I'd buy again (used) if I had to.

[Underball]

LCD's are terrible for low res gaming. I'd even submit they're terrible in general - even in HD, unless you buy a really high end one.

 

The BEST solution for large screen, contemporary HDTV for gaming, be it low or high res, is DLP. Much smoother picture, no dither or pixelation, no delay/lag, no burn-in issues.

 

I have a 65" Mitsubishi 1080p DLP, and even my 7800 looks fantastic on it. as does my SMS, Genesis, PS2/PS1.

[Austin]

I was reading on the 3DO forums last night that the system renders first internally in 320X240 (or 480), then the system takes that image and upscales it to 640X480 to display it on the screen. That's probably a good reason why the 3DO has such a pixelated look, and a sort of slight "bouncing" image if you look closely. With that in mind, maybe the general blur factor on some LCDs would actually make the 3DO's visuals look a little bit better? I'm curious to try it now...

Edited December 25, 2009 by Austin