tschak909 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Mclaineinc: Smartass. Please, for all that is sane, let that rotting carcass of a topic die. Unlike it, or Knight Rider 2600, this thing is actually being written. -Thom Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3159022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Rice Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Does it have highlights for other languages? I have never heard of ConTEXT before. I use UltraEdit since it has highlights for SQR and Peoplecode. I saw SQR on the link provided. ConTEXT is amazing, once you really tweak the settings, and create your own syntax higlighters (for any language, including MADS). It's super convenient to have a "one editor for everything environment" with ConTEXT. Edited January 22, 2015 by Almost Rice Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3159638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Does it have highlights for other languages? I have never heard of ConTEXT before. I use UltraEdit since it has highlights for SQR and Peoplecode. I saw SQR on the link provided. There are many highlighters (found here), but the beauty of ConTEXT is that you can throw your own syntax highlighters together for whatever you want to highlight, simply by editing a text-file that contains the definition of the things that you want to have highlighted. For example, here is the 6502 highlighter... just look at it in anything that views text... you simply load a highlighter that is close to what you want to define, then edit it to suit your needs. You can further tweak your colors with the color-pickers, directly within ConTEXT, as it will merely make changes to the highlighter text-file. You can always load that file up in the editor, and add to it to your heart's delight... You can make a highlighter for anything... for example, say you wanted to have a syntax highlighter for baking or cooking recipes... it's easy to do, just create keywords like: milk, sugar, eggs, butter, etc. So, download it, read the instructions for adding highlighters, and have fun. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3159987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The Germans seem to be in the lead with peripheral support for GEOS... https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=R6-0v3SVcO4&x-yt-cl=85114404 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) I'll take one please. (The German not the peripheral) Edited January 31, 2015 by TheNameOfTheGame Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 xxxxxx times promised demo? or only self-presentation? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 xxxxxx times promised demo? or only self-presentation? And exactly what characteristic are you trying to present here? Spent the last fortnight clearing out my step-daughter's shit-hole apartment while she was away, and doing hardware jobs to try and raise extra money for extortionate winter bills. Really sorry life doesn't always work out the way it's supposed to. It'll be done when it's done. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 xxxxxx times promised demo? or only self-presentation? Why did you post this? With no context this message appears out of the blue...c'mon. Give FJC a break. The guy has a real life. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 yes.. demo was promised maybe 15 times.. october 14, november, december... etc.. when i something promised..you know whats end Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I never "promised" anything. I tried to estimate when things would be done. If you want to restart all the crap that was banished from here a few months back, you can imagine how that will end too. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 FJC, no reason to even explain... no one's paying for this. It'll be done when it's done, or maybe never. It's your project. I guess you can be flattered that people are impatient to get even a demo on their real Atari computer! 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Impatience is understandable, but I'm pretty impatient with myself too, and nothing's more frustrating than not having the time to work on this project. People donated money a few years back to help support the undertaking (and specifically to help me buy a new PC when my old machine died and I had no money for a replacement), but that's not the sole reason that the project WILL eventually see completion. But certainly it'll take a long time. There's no logistical way around that until we reach the stage at which the API is sufficiently well documented that people can start contributing drivers, etc... and even then, relying on third-party contributions brings with it a whole new set of logistical variables. Anyway: I'm throwing a few hours at it this evening, and all the tabs of the Profiler (task manager) are working now. Multiple instances of applications can now be opened and shut down; memory manager and relocating loader are working perfectly, as is the window manager. What's taking time now is catering for the human element, since once the thing is out in the wild, the lack of - say - an alert box when the maximum number of processes has been reached and launching an app does nothing will generate questions/bug reports, etc. EDIT: A special thank-you to Tebe, who PM'd me out of the blue the other day explaining how to define unallocated space (i.e. ".DS" blocks) inside relocatable binaries. Edited January 31, 2015 by flashjazzcat 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just sent this to MrFish, in case he has time to check it out: I'll spend time on it tomorrow. If I add anything more it'll be simple stuff... more concerned that what's there is reasonably stable. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ripdubski Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) yes.. demo was promised maybe 15 times.. october 14, november, december... etc.. when i something promised..you know whats end So what. Lets see you gui on the a8. Put up or shut up. Edited January 31, 2015 by Ripdubski 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 yes.. demo was promised maybe 15 times.. october 14, november, december... etc.. when i something promised..you know whats end Have you ever contributed anything to this community besides an utterly shit attitude? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Have you ever contributed anything to this community besides an utterly shit attitude? Is "w1k" a reincarnation of "atari8warez"? Christ am I tired of these people. Can't we lock this thread up and take it private, by invitation only? Edited February 1, 2015 by pixelmischief Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 And exactly what characteristic are you trying to present here? Spent the last fortnight clearing out my step-daughter's shit-hole apartment while she was away, and doing hardware jobs to try and raise extra money for extortionate winter bills. Really sorry life doesn't always work out the way it's supposed to. It'll be done when it's done. You don't need to explain to anyone why you can't spend as much time on this project as someone else would prefer you do. ..Al 13 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 You don't need to explain to anyone why you can't spend as much time as this project as someone else would prefer you do. ^^ This. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I just saw your video from a few weeks ago. THIS IS FREAKING AWSOME! What is really sad is that my quad core 2.6 GHz i5 laptop isn't as responsive as your GUI. Even when I'm only running office applications. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'll take one please. (The German not the peripheral) Yeah, I'm suspect of the design. It makes a lot of sparks and smoke. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 And exactly what characteristic are you trying to present here? Spent the last fortnight clearing out my step-daughter's shit-hole apartment while she was away, and doing hardware jobs to try and raise extra money for extortionate winter bills. Really sorry life doesn't always work out the way it's supposed to. It'll be done when it's done. I know someone who works for a big-time software company and can code immersive 3D games in just a few months. I'll pass along your info if you need some help with the project. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I know someone who works for a big-time software company and can code immersive 3D games in just a few months. I'll pass along your info if you need some help with the project. Does this mean we can expect full CMODE72 support? Will I need to "apologize" again first? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3167981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I personally enjoy reading development updates, I'm interested in how something like this is put together instead of whining about how it's not finished. FJC has actually done a lot of good for the old platform with his efforts. His various IDE drivers are great.... he drove forward an actual de facto standard for HDD partitioning. He's actually done things that make my life easier and make my toy more fun to play with. In his spare time. Without expecting anything in return. A lot of it while banging on this GUI. Why do certain people insist on being obnoxious to one of the few people still doing anything interesting on this platform? 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3168189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz73 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 FJC: Kudos on the progress you are making with this project! I love reading the updates and am looking forward to the day when you feel it will be ready for us to play with. I have a question for you and it's a bit of a stretch (least of your worries right now, I know), but do you plan have support for joystick ports #3 & #4 (on the 400/800) later on? It'd be pretty handy to have a mouse plugged in to one of those ports and not have to sacrifice a joystick port or use a joystick/mouse switch box. Just curious... Thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3168891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodatron Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The mouse control is driver based, so a different port shouldn't be an issue at all! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/134/#findComment-3168905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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