+Stephen Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Great looking work! Now I will have to spend hours this weekend digging through a few dozen boxes to try and find my ST mouse (which I don't even know whether or not it works). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2180853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppetmark Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 It looks amazing already! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2180868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Managed this today: It doesn't seem like much, but there are so many background "housekeeping" routines being written every step of the way, visible progress is slow. However, once all the ancilliary routines are written, things will speed up... Can you post a video to see it in action? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Now I will have to spend hours this weekend digging through a few dozen boxes to try and find my ST mouse (which I don't even know whether or not it works). Why? Just switch your CMI08 to ST-mouse mode!?! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can you post a video to see it in action? Yep: as soon as I get the menus finished tonight. I'll release the demo and a video for those without a mouse. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Now I will have to spend hours this weekend digging through a few dozen boxes to try and find my ST mouse (which I don't even know whether or not it works). Why? Just switch your CMI08 to ST-mouse mode!?! Time to RTFM again! Is it a good thing or a bad thing when you have so much hardware you cannot remember how to use it all? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 /me goes to hunt for his ST mouse. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Brief taster video: gui1.wmv Sorry about the WMV format, Mac users. I have the doctors this afternoon for this throat, and the menu system is still quite buggy so it might be a day or two before it's 100% functional. A major discovery was that the mouse_hide and mouse_reveal functions have to wait a jiffy to ensure they are in sync with the stage 2 VBL, otherwise you get mouse pointers all over the place. Edited January 12, 2011 by flashjazzcat 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 On a mouse related subject, apart from Klony2010 what other games or apps use the Amiga mouse as its now emulated as well as the CX85 numeric pad in Altirra... Cheers Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Brief taster video: gui1.wmv Great, looks interesting. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Certifiably insanely great. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphasys Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 On a mouse related subject, apart from Klony2010 what other games or apps use the Amiga mouse as its now emulated as well as the CX85 numeric pad in Altirra... Cheers Only app I can recall that is able to use Amiga mouse (aswell as ST mouse) is the Black Magic Composer. It should be in Port 2, and Amiga/ST modes can be switched by pressing Select. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can someone remind me what the difference is in the bit readings for the Amiga mouse? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphasys Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Can someone remind me what the difference is in the bit readings for the Amiga mouse? ST mouse: L->R xx10 xx11 xx01 xx00 ST mouse: U->D 10xx 11xx 01xx 00xx Amiga: L->R 1x0x 0x0x 0x1x 1x1x Amiga: U->D x0x1 x1x1 x1x0 x0x0 I hope that's clear enough... Edited January 12, 2011 by Alphasys Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 ST mouse: L->R xx10 xx11 xx01 xx00 ST mouse: U->D 10xx 11xx 01xx 00xx Amiga: L->R 1x0x 0x0x 0x1x 1x1x Amiga: U->D x0x1 x1x1 x1x0 x0x0 I hope that's clear enough... That should do it - thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 On a mouse related subject, apart from Klony2010 what other games or apps use the Amiga mouse as its now emulated as well as the CX85 numeric pad in Altirra... Cheers Only app I can recall that is able to use Amiga mouse (aswell as ST mouse) is the Black Magic Composer. It should be in Port 2, and Amiga/ST modes can be switched by pressing Select. Thanks...Just keen to test as much as I can... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I just uploaded the new version of BOSS-X 10.35 in german and english ... hope my translation into english is halfway usable :/ you might take a look at it Edited January 13, 2011 by atarixle Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2181986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 I just uploaded the new version of BOSS-X 10.35 in german and english ... hope my translation into english is halfway usable :/ you might take a look at it Downloading now. Does Boss-X work with SpartaDOS X? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 On a mouse related subject, apart from Klony2010 what other games or apps use the Amiga mouse Programs that use the Amiga mouse: - Black Magic Composer by Sven Tegethoff for Ulf Petersen, 1991 - Bombdown, demo-version by Roemer of UNO - Bombdown, full-version by Roemer of UNO - Multi-Player by MadTeam (PD) - TRS Desktop by Tristesse, 2006 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/atari-8-bit/faq/section-74.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Brief taster video: gui1.wmv Sorry about the WMV format, Mac users. I have the doctors this afternoon for this throat, and the menu system is still quite buggy so it might be a day or two before it's 100% functional. A major discovery was that the mouse_hide and mouse_reveal functions have to wait a jiffy to ensure they are in sync with the stage 2 VBL, otherwise you get mouse pointers all over the place. Looks incredible, nice work! Steve Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Brief taster video: gui1.wmv This video is a joy to see. Jon, this project must have the priority over other unimportant tasks! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Does Boss-X work with SpartaDOS X? No, unfortunately not. It's for use with Atari-DOS 2.5, Turbo-DOS, and MyDOS. SpartaDOS doesn't run the original version of Turbo-BASIC, and it shows directories in a different way as MyDOS does. Edited January 13, 2011 by atarixle Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Wow - this is tough going. I'm coding up the recursive parser for the cascading menus. Perfectly logical and working well, but extremely labour-intensive. Looks incredible, nice work! Thanks. This video is a joy to see. Jon, this project must have the priority over other unimportant tasks! Try telling that to my wife. Variety is the spice of life, Phil; I'll make some time to start your stuff next week. I don't want to end up with a backlog of unfinished jobs. Does Boss-X work with SpartaDOS X? No, unfortunately not. It's for use with Atari-DOS 2.5, Turbo-DOS, and MyDOS. SpartaDOS doesn't run the original version of Turbo-BASIC, and it shows directories in a different way as MyDOS does. That's a shame. I was testing the previous pre-install release the other week and I copied the whole volume onto an SDX MyIDE partition, figuring it would fly along. I quickly realized that version didn't like SDX's path delimiters, though, when it crashed. I'll have to try it with MyDOS and the IDEa some time. It might be worth coding up support for the '<' and '>' path delimiters. Disk I/O becomes a serious overhead with a system that size, and SpartaDOS X + hard disk makes mincemeat of I/O times. Edited January 13, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I was trying to make a SDX Version ... but I decided not to ... then I decided to make a whole new BOSS-X for SpartaDOS-X ... but I didn't have the time. Now it's on you to create a cool, useful GUI for SpartaDOS Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitchcock4 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Brief taster video: gui1.wmv I'm impressed with the speed. Great! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/154520-new-gui-for-the-atari-8-bit/page/6/#findComment-2182474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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