danwinslow Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 This is an unfair comparison. The post-it has way more storage capacity. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The Post-It isn't a machine, it's pieces of paper with adhesive. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Funnily enough there are some hires games for the ZX81 ( via some awesome software hacks ) - Wow that is sweet!!!!! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Since everyone clearly knows by now that the true worth of any computing platform can be measured by how fast it reads obsolete game controller ports, this is a truly difficult choice... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 you can't make a paper aeroplane out of the sinclair machine And a pack of post it notes makes it the lightest ' computer' in the world 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The_Laird, you got some 'splaining to do. Not really the ZX81 is a computer, the post it notes are not. The ZX81 can play Frogger, Defender, Scramble, 3D Monster Maze and Space Invaders Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 The_Laird, you got some 'splaining to do. Not really the ZX81 is a computer, the post it notes are not. The ZX81 can play Frogger, Defender, Scramble, 3D Monster Maze and Space Invaders Well, What I meant by explain is that you had voted, but had not said why. I contend that the Post-It is a more versatile and powerful computing device than the ZX81 in any case. But, that's not really the joke or point here anyway, so it's okay that you missed that Thanks for voting. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 The Post-It isn't a machine, it's pieces of paper with adhesive. Thanks for the astute observation. Glad the rest of you know how to have fun! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 You can write any game or application you like in any language you like on post-it notes. On the ZX81 you are limited to BASIC and Z80 assembler. The ZX81 does have a small advantage in that it can run the 2 languages it supports natively. However, I still give Post-It notes the edge for their flexibility. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Post-It Notes have also been in production for far longer... 1979-2010... 31 years. The Sinclair didn't last nearly that long. So, total userbase, installed base, units sold... 3M blows away Sinclair in all regards. Plus, new user training for 3M platform is far simpler. I think I've had enough convincing now to put in my vote! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Without the added pen input device, only rudimentary calculations are possible for me when using the Post-It. With the proper version of a pen input type device, NVRAM capability can be achieved with the Post-It, otherwise you're kinda stuck with a WORM storage device. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Sorry, I should have said that any choice of single or multiple pen (or similar) input peripherals are allowed for the 3M device since that is the only reasonable method of data entry. The Sinclair has the "keyboard" built-in. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiggw Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 My guess is that the sinclair would be best used if it was converted into a post-it note dispenser!!! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 My guess is that the sinclair would be best used if it was converted into a post-it note dispenser!!! By George, I believe you somehow just won this thread. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The Sinclair has the "keyboard" built-in. The 3M doesn't have a built in data entry device? What is a person supposed to do, run out and spend more hard earned cash to use the damn thing out of the package? FAIL. Sinclair for the win. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 The Sinclair has the "keyboard" built-in. The 3M doesn't have a built in data entry device? What is a person supposed to do, run out and spend more hard earned cash to use the damn thing out of the package? FAIL. Sinclair for the win. No, a pen is assumed. Who doesn't already own a pen?! Too bad some just cannot see the light. I would go on and on for 30 to 40 pages trying to pummel you into submission and asking you why you don't know how to read, but I just don't have it in me 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 No, a pen is assumed. Never assume. http://www.cafepress.com/xneverassumex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrLj8QEAgI Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 No, a pen is assumed. Never assume. http://www.cafepress.com/xneverassumex Okay, then a pen was included for free with the purchase of a multipack! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Okay, then a pen was included for free with the purchase of a multipack! Sorry, you just violated rule #3 and I'll quote you "3) No spineless answers" Out of the package the M3 is even more worthless than the TS1k. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Okay, then a pen was included for free with the purchase of a multipack! Sorry, you just violated rule #3 and I'll quote you "3) No spineless answers" Out of the package the M3 is even more worthless than the TS1k. Yes, but it's in the rules that a pen is assumed Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yes, but it's in the rules that a pen is assumed Goto post #42 (Reminds me of that old program) 10 print "hello" 20 goto 10 Actually I dont even have a TS1k anymore. I did at one time though. We got it free for looking at a time share in the 80's!!! (No lie) It was pretty worthless from what I recall. LOL Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yes, but it's in the rules that a pen is assumed Goto post #42 (Reminds me of that old program) 10 print "hello" 20 goto 10 Assume as in an arithmetic equation, not in the sense of make an ass out of u and me! If you prefer, use the word "given" in place of "assume". In any case, there is a pen! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 In any case, there is a pen! Is there a TV and a power source for the TS1k, is that also a given? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 In any case, there is a pen! Is there a TV and a power source for the TS1k, is that also a given? Yes. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yes. After seeing what other have done with the TS1K (Some kick ass games are shown on YouTube I was really quite surprised, I may have to pick up a TS1K again just for shits and grins) and what others have done with the M3 (Barely legible, often misspelled notation like "This is your sammich") I'll still stick with the TS1K Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155989-timex-sinclair-1000zx-81-vs-3m-post-it-note/page/2/#findComment-1914332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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