krewat Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Hello all. It's been a while, but I do have some updated information on the current state of Impossible Mission, and some interesting pictures to look at. I recently found another floppy with some old code on it, circa August 1986. If you remember, I had said that Brian Richter was initially converting Impossible Mission from the Epyx Commodore 64 code to the Atari 7800, but left the company (Computer Magic, Ltd) before it was completed. The "old code" I found was three versions of Impossible Mission when Brian was working on it, and was periodically sent to Atari for review/updates. I also found a preliminary copy of Winter Games, at least the ski-jump, but it's just for testing, not playing. I had to hack MESS to put RAM in $4000-7FFF for a "normal" cartridge, these IM and WG versions were for testing, and the RAM location was not finalized yet, and the cartridge itself was not setup for banks, so I couldn't just make a "banked" cartridge with RAM. All code was linear, from $4000 up to $FFFF The first picture is an early version of Brian's code, before the rooms were even coded. The elevator worked, but there were no rooms. If you will notice, the man graphics are copied directly from the C64, and the "pause" button is a clock, not the "paws" like the C64 version. An intermediate version included the rooms, and robots, but no collision logic. The second picture is a later version where the man graphics were updated, but still not final, and the code itself included rooms, and robots, and collisions, but no objects, terminals, etc. I believe this is where his development left off, and mine began. I remember redoing the man, and creating/rewriting(?) the initial collision code, as well as displaying all the objects, etc. Also, I separated the code into multiple banks, if I remmeber correctly, the room code (w/robots) is in one bank, elevator and puzzle manipulation in another, music room has it's own, and the final sequence might be in another. I'll check on that later. The third picture is a picture of my final copy, which is what was delivered to Atari. Notice the Atari logo in the lower left, versus the Epyx version in Richter's earlier version, the "paws" button, and the updated "man" graphics. Actually, the version shown is from my development version where I will make the puzzle-piece bug fixes, and other changes I want to make. The fourth is a picture of the Commodore 64 version, for comparison. All images are on my web site, http://atari.kilonet.org which has not been populated with anything yet. Among the old code I found was a set of documentation we had whipped up, or were provided by Atari, some sound editting utilities, some picture conversion utilities I (and maybe Brian) had written to take PCX or PIC files and convert to Atari graphics for the Maria. More on that later as time allows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I don't see any images just the text "posted image". Any chance you can upload them to AA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewat Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Weird, I see a bunch of hits in the web site log. I'll take care of it a little later today - gotta go work on the mother-in-law's heating system Edited January 23, 2010 by krewat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Thanks for the update. The pictures show up fine for me, btw. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I extracted the image links from this page's html and they still don't work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I don't see any pics as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Must be a US/Europe thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Strange, the pictures show up fine for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Seeing them just fine here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewat Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 I just created the DNS entry for that web site today, so... who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 When Al changed AA's server last year it took a couple of days for it to filter over to my ISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 No images yet here for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewat Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Here's the pics as attachments. I also found my DOS-based transfer program (not using Atari's or anyone else's protocol), and the 2500 AD compiler version that I used. Gee... that would have saved some research and work trying to use a different version of 2500 AD's assembler Now all I have to do is find MY version of the EPROM bios. Which I doubt will ever happen ... it does not appear to be anywhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Thanks for uploading the images. I still can't get the images in the first post to load . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewat Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Thanks for uploading the images. I still can't get the images in the first post to load . What does your browser say when you cut and paste the URL: http://atari.kilonet.org/images/7800/im/im-richter-early.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 What does your browser say when you cut and paste the URL: http://atari.kilonet.org/images/7800/im/im-richter-early.jpg "The connection has timed out". Its probably just a DNS propagation problem, so don't worry about it. I'll check again in a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Its been a couple of weeks and I still can't see the images in the first post. I've no idea what's going on in the DNS ether . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Yep, no pictures for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I see them fine. Maybe the pictures from that site are blocked for Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Its been a couple of weeks and I still can't see the images in the first post. I've no idea what's going on in the DNS ether . Yep, no pictures for me as well. What happens if you add the entry to your local hosts file? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Its been a couple of weeks and I still can't see the images in the first post. I've no idea what's going on in the DNS ether . Yep, no pictures for me as well. What happens if you add the entry to your local hosts file? Mitch DNS Error - Server cannot be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Its been a couple of weeks and I still can't see the images in the first post. I've no idea what's going on in the DNS ether . From The Netherlands, I don't see the pictures as well. But www.kilonet.org is resolved to 199.89.231.200 so the DNS is working. But the server does not seem to be online since directly entering the IP address does not work either and a ping to the IP address does not give a response. Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewat Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 Well, a ping won't work because it's blocked by my firewall PM/email me your IP address, and I'll see if there is anything in the logs. I really want to figure out why you can't see that server. It's "atari.kilonet.org" - not www.kilonet.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underball Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 The pictures show up just fine here, on both my work and home connections, two different ISP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) No pics here either....Looks as though your progressing though Krewat....KUTGW Perhpss you can explain why 3 versions of Impossible mission Edited February 14, 2010 by carmel_andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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