John Stamos Mullet Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 First Video Game company to use Mob/Mafia enforcement tactics to put a stranglehold on the 3rd party development market. That's pretty innovative, in an "Atari Sleeps with the Fishes" kinda away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Yep, it worked out great for them, and Sega, Sony, Microsoft all followed their lead. Control the platform or you get jackholes making bad software for it. Hey, Atari could have distributed the NES if they wanted to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Yep, it worked out great for them, and Sega, Sony, Microsoft all followed their lead. Control the platform or you get jackholes making bad software for it. Hey, Atari could have distributed the NES if they wanted to. the NES had more shovelware titles than the SMS, 7800, and 5200 had titles, period. It didnt' help them stop bad 3rd party companies. It helped them kill any competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 the NES had more shovelware titles than the SMS, 7800, and 5200 had titles, period. It didnt' help them stop bad 3rd party companies. It helped them kill any competition. Ah, but Nintendo controlled the cartridge supply -- the third parties had to work with them to make games for the system. Except for dirty old Tengen. Nintendo profited coming and going, while Atari just got their reputation damaged without any reacharound. The third-tier shovelware providers like LJN, Akklaim, etc were a business hack to get around Nintendo's limitations on number of titles per system. Mob tactics were everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Yep, it worked out great for them, and Sega, Sony, Microsoft all followed their lead. Control the platform or you get jackholes making bad software for it. Hey, Atari could have distributed the NES if they wanted to. It's a crazy story to read. It's more complex than what Nintendo did with Bandai and Mattel, which was just "shipping the consoles to them". Atari wasn't just going to distribute NES systems in the USA, they would have assembled consoles and controlled their distribution outside of Japan (that is, from the contracts, the US and Europe) http://www.atari.io/atari-nintendo-nes-deal/ You can even see in the document that Atari wanted to also produce the 7800, so it seems that their strategy would have been to release the NES then sink it to release the 7800... And merely 7 years later, Nintendo forgot what happened with Atari and showed Sony the door.... Edited February 14, 2019 by CatPix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'll see your flexi-disc and raise you an e-reader Curses..foiled again :-)) Damn you Nintendo.. You just Bitch slapped the UK innovations straight down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 715 known licensed game titles were released for the Nintendo Entertainment System First Video Game company to use Mob/Mafia enforcement tactics to put a stranglehold on the 3rd party development market. That's pretty innovative, in an "Atari Sleeps with the Fishes" kinda away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'll see your flexi-disc and raise you an e-reader Stolen straight from Epoch's Barcode Battler from 10 years ago : Well, stolen. Nintendo knew of the Barcode Battler : 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Stolen straight from Epoch's Barcode Battler from 10 years ago : Well, stolen. Nintendo knew of the Barcode Battler : You have done well my young apprentice, now Lord CatPix, go and bring peace to the Empire. UK innovation. .restored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I remember that in the UK, there was a game on the Speccy, on tapes. Very normal, except that it was more like an interactive book. You'd listen to the narrator, then at some point, make a choice, and the tape would advance to the right segment (or maybe you would wind the tape yourself, as I don't remember if the speccy had a tape player control output?). I only have sketchy details on that one because I don't remember it being in French, and my Soviet Spectrum clone blew a fuse or something so I can't play Speccy games for now (well... I don't fancy emulation. It feels hollow). I gotta find that record game tho. The concept is awesome, even tho it's just an audio support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 ULTRA-HAND 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I remember that in the UK, there was a game on the Speccy, on tapes. Very normal, except that it was more like an interactive book. You'd listen to the narrator, then at some point, make a choice, and the tape would advance to the right segment (or maybe you would wind the tape yourself, as I don't remember if the speccy had a tape player control output?). I only have sketchy details on that one because I don't remember it being in French, and my Soviet Spectrum clone blew a fuse or something so I can't play Speccy games for now (well... I don't fancy emulation. It feels hollow). I gotta find that record game tho. The concept is awesome, even tho it's just an audio support. Are you thinking of Mel Crouchers Deus Ex Machina? https://youtu.be/0ZS6JVCDI9s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 It sounds like this. I can't say yes or no, but anyway, it's my point : this game is brilliant and you wouldn't see something remotely alike after, not until CD arrived in computers and consoles. And even then... I think it's a pretty unique concept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 It was such an amazing concept and i still return to watch it on YT , just to listen to the voice work by the names involved. Amazing to think what was attempted on such relatively primitive hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Stolen straight from Epoch's Barcode Battler from 10 years ago : Well, stolen. Nintendo knew of the Barcode Battler : Even earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauzin_Softstrip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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