Rom Hunter Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) Also we're fairly sure that the Unknown Universal game is actually an Unknown 20th Century Fox game. Might be Six Pack, but that's just speculation based on the genre. 20th Century Fox' Beany Bopper manual announces Six Pack with A Lion Share Production as extra information. 20th Century Fox produced the movie Six Pack (starring Kenny Rogers) together with Lion Share, so there's no doubt that this movie was meant. Unfortunately, the movie does not feature any dragster racing, like in this prototype, but only stock car auto racing. Edited July 26, 2011 by Rom Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) Tempest, Something else: the model numbers of Bugs Bunny (CX26100) and Stunt Cycle (CX26157) were just selected ("Let's pick the first gap in Atari's cartridge model number list") by the guys making these repro's, right? No historical evidence to back this up, true? Edited July 26, 2011 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well, if you're 100% sure that the model number of Holey Moley is CX26130 and DP is 100% sure that the model number of Honker Bonker is CX26130, then it's the same game. Honker Bonker info, according to DP: Listed on Atari's Master Part Number List. Also referred to as "Honker Bonk" in internal Atari documents, with the comment, "Program proceeding - dates look good. Working with CCW". Regardless of whether the part number was actually reassigned by Atari or not, I've never believed that these two games were the same, and I still don't. Holey Moley was a port of an obscure coin-op and was done by Bob Polaro. I don't see how or why CCW would have been involved with the game in any way. Futhermore, the title Honker Bonker doesn't seem to fit the whack-a-mole theme. When I hear the title "Honker Bonker", the first thing I think of are these guys, who "honk" when they "bonk" their honkers (noses)... http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Honkers Remember those guys? It would make much more sense that Honker Bonker was to be another Sesame Street game (hence the CCW involvement mentioned in the Atari memo). I don't know for sure of course, but that's my best guess. Something else: the model numbers of Bugs Bunny (CX26100) and Stunt Cycle (CX26157) were just selected ("Let's pick the first gap in Atari's cartridge model number list") by the guys making these repro's, right? No historical evidence to back this up, true? Yes, I believe Atari2600.com simply used unassigned numbers from the Master List when they published the games. Those numbers were never assigned by Atari, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well, if you're 100% sure that the model number of Holey Moley is CX26130 and DP is 100% sure that the model number of Honker Bonker is CX26130, then it's the same game. Honker Bonker info, according to DP: Listed on Atari's Master Part Number List. Also referred to as "Honker Bonk" in internal Atari documents, with the comment, "Program proceeding - dates look good. Working with CCW". Regardless of whether the part number was actually reassigned by Atari or not, I've never believed that these two games were the same, and I still don't. Holey Moley was a port of an obscure coin-op and was done by Bob Polaro. I don't see how or why CCW would have been involved with the game in any way. Futhermore, the title Honker Bonker doesn't seem to fit the whack-a-mole theme. When I hear the title "Honker Bonker", the first thing I think of are these guys, who "honk" when they "bonk" their honkers (noses)... http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Honkers Remember those guys? It would make much more sense that Honker Bonker was to be another Sesame Street game (hence the CCW involvement mentioned in the Atari memo). I don't know for sure of course, but that's my best guess. Something else: the model numbers of Bugs Bunny (CX26100) and Stunt Cycle (CX26157) were just selected ("Let's pick the first gap in Atari's cartridge model number list") by the guys making these repro's, right? No historical evidence to back this up, true? Yes, I believe Atari2600.com simply used unassigned numbers from the Master List when they published the games. Those numbers were never assigned by Atari, as far as I know. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 This is pure, uninformed speculation on my part, but is there any chance that the completed Holey Moley port was slated to be transformed into Honker Bonker? Maybe there was a problem with the license, or the property was deemed less commercially viable than a Sesame Street-themed game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 This is pure, uninformed speculation on my part, but is there any chance that the completed Holey Moley port was slated to be transformed into Honker Bonker? Maybe there was a problem with the license, or the property was deemed less commercially viable than a Sesame Street-themed game? It's possible, but I doubt it. Bob Polaro would be the guy to ask if he remembers. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Man Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Also we're fairly sure that the Unknown Universal game is actually an Unknown 20th Century Fox game. Might be Six Pack, but that's just speculation based on the genre. 20th Century Fox' Beany Bopper manual announces Six Pack with A Lion Share Production as extra information. 20th Century Fox produced the movie Six Pack (starring Kenny Rogers) together with Lion Share, so there's no doubt that this movie was meant. Unfortunately, the movie does not feature any dragster racing, like in this prototype, but only stock car auto racing. I missed this thread before and just noticed that you moved this game under 20th Century Fox on Atarimania. I wonder if the game might be based on Heart Like A Wheel http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085656/ which Fox released in 1983? It is about drag racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Man Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Oops! I'm sure I read this thread http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/168877-unknown-universal-prototype-possibly-identified/ but forgot about it. Nothing to see here. Move along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 This is pure, uninformed speculation on my part, but is there any chance that the completed Holey Moley port was slated to be transformed into Honker Bonker? Maybe there was a problem with the license, or the property was deemed less commercially viable than a Sesame Street-themed game? It's possible, but I doubt it. Bob Polaro would be the guy to ask if he remembers. Tempest I wish someone would ask Bob if he remembers anything about his Highway game he was working on for the 5200. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkol Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I didn't know where to put these, but this seemed like a good forum topic. Here are some scans of the April Fools review of Murder On The Orient Express; For some reason, the game popped into my head today and I was able to dig out an old copy of "Electronic Fun". I hope you enjoy them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdu Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I have all of the Electronic Fun issues as scans (PDF files) on my site, along with dozens of other magazines... http://www.2600connection.com/library/magazines/magazines.html Enjoy! Tim 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Is post 145 the latest version? Or has it been moved to another thread or web site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Pogoman is an Atari 8-bit game published by another company called Computer Magic, no connection with the one we know on the 2600. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Disregard what I wrote above, I was wrong. The game WAS planned on the 2600. BTW, feel free to send me a PM if you want contact details for someone who worked at Computer Magic, maybe that person knows more... -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Disregard what I wrote above, I was wrong. The game WAS planned on the 2600. BTW, feel free to send me a PM if you want contact details for someone who worked at Computer Magic, maybe that person knows more... Speaking of that, this is from the June 1983 issue of The Video Game Update: Computer Magic Ltd. will introduce their first two 2600-compatible games at the show, POGOMAN featuring a man on on a pogo stick avoiding obstacles and MAD-NETTER, an action / adventure game with the main character wielding a butterfly net, avoiding snakes and other sinister creatures. Both games have been previously available for the Atari 4 / 800 as this company has produced several games for the 4 / 800 in the past. Plans are not firmed as of this writing, but they also may introduce new games for the Atari 4 / 800. Looks like Mad-Netter needs to be added to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipaah Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's a long time since the list got updated. I would really appreciate if we would further work on this one. Did anybody find new clues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's a long time since the list got updated. I would really appreciate if we would further work on this one. Did anybody find new clues? Mach doch, finde Ich toll! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 What is it with people who seemingly register with no other purpose than to necropost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipaah Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 What is it with people who seemingly register with no other purpose than to necropost? Actually i've been passively active on this site for a longer time but without registration n stuff and this thread caught my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipaah Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Is this site (http://gatland.tripod.com/vgr.txt) legit? All the games listed in this thread are also seen on this site but thats the only proof i can find of all these lost games that weren't found already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipaah Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Okay, so: The only source of the games listed in this thread (Except those that already got found or whatever) all go back to sites like http://gatland.tripod.com/vgr.txtor http://dhp.com/~sloppy/classic/atari/Atari2600.rarity , which all use the same text. This text is from vgr@clark.net. I did some research and found out that VGR stands for Video Game Review (As you can find here: https://atariage.com/glossary/index.php?page=2&search=) and the person who is behind this rarity guide is called Craig Pell. Does anybody know this person whatsoever? He could help us with these abandoned games. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Okay, so: The only source of the games listed in this thread (Except those that already got found or whatever) all go back to sites like http://gatland.tripod.com/vgr.txtor http://dhp.com/~sloppy/classic/atari/Atari2600.rarity , which all use the same text. This text is from vgr@clark.net. I did some research and found out that VGR stands for Video Game Review (As you can find here: https://atariage.com/glossary/index.php?page=2&search=) and the person who is behind this rarity guide is called Craig Pell. Does anybody know this person whatsoever? He could help us with these abandoned games. Thanks You're trying to re-invent the wheel at a F1 track. Check here: http://www.ataricompendium.com/game_library/unreleased/unreleased.html And here: http://www.atariprotos.com/rumormill/2600/2600rumor.htm Edited July 9, 2018 by Rom Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipaah Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 You're trying to re-invent the wheel at a F1 track. Check here: http://www.ataricompendium.com/game_library/unreleased/unreleased.html And here: http://www.atariprotos.com/rumormill/2600/2600rumor.htm I'd be really thankful if anyone knew who "Craig Pell" is. All the games on this list on the thread that no proof of existence are from his rarity list so we could ask him for that and maybe get a bunch of information from games we've never heard before. We just need to contact him somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'd be really thankful if anyone knew who "Craig Pell" is. All the games on this list on the thread that no proof of existence are from his rarity list so we could ask him for that and maybe get a bunch of information from games we've never heard before. We just need to contact him somehow. Good luck, we're all counting on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I'd be really thankful if anyone knew who "Craig Pell" is. All the games on this list on the thread that no proof of existence are from his rarity list so we could ask him for that and maybe get a bunch of information from games we've never heard before. We just need to contact him somehow. Here is a hint: https://archive.org/details/msdos_Indenture_1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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