CRV Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Turns out the company that published Tax Avoiders had its own run-in with the government... http://ftp.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/874/874.F2d.584.88-1765.html http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F2/872/898/172421/ I don't fully understand it, but American Videogame Leasing was apparently part of some tax shelter scheme. That jibes with what was said in this 2004 thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/47898-more-tax-avoiders-insight-kinda-long-revela/ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/165921-interesting-tax-avoiders-related-tidbit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabyte Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Seems pretty straightforward, certain business losses are non-taxable. So, what these guys did was talk to wealthy "investors" and got them to buy video games valued at $35 (or probably $50 or $60 whatever). Then, when they sell the games for $5, or the games don't sell at all, everyone who invested get's to claim a loss of income, dropping down into a lower tax bracket or otherwise paying less taxes. However, I think the way that everyone makes serious money on this is that the investors don't pay the full price of the game, imagine this scenerio: The "games" are supposedly worth 50 bucks. The investor only pays 5 bucks, but get's to count his losses as 50 bucks, because that's what the game company "told" him it would sell for (really everyone involved knows what's going on). So the game company makes 5 bucks, and the investor gets to hide 50 bucks from the government. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/165921-interesting-tax-avoiders-related-tidbit/#findComment-2049562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlepaddle Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Interesting. This indicates there may be a whole bunch of variations of bad games out there just waiting to be found and preserved. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/165921-interesting-tax-avoiders-related-tidbit/#findComment-2049913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRV Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) Let there be no doubt that Darrell Wagner and Todd Clark Holm, mentioned on the front cover, are real people. It looks like Wagner is a tax consultant in Oregon. Holm was given a 30-day suspension by the SEC in 1984 (http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/1984/dig091984.pdf). Holm was also based in Oregon. I don't know if that's where H&L Schwartz was. Edited July 14, 2010 by CRV Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/165921-interesting-tax-avoiders-related-tidbit/#findComment-2050718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRV Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Go here, click on "Name," search for "Dunhill Electronics," and you'll find records pertaining to hundreds of software titles done for American Videogame Leasing and Educational Computer Program Leasing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/165921-interesting-tax-avoiders-related-tidbit/#findComment-2207223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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