potatohead Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Nice mashup there Jeff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog2112 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Person offering to buy my complete collection of Byte let me down! :-( Collection still up for sale. perfect condition, many still in shrink wrap delivery packs, except for one slightly water damaged issue in mid-90's Logistics on delivery still the same, 10.5 cubic feet of magazines here... Edited December 15, 2010 by raindog2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Oftentimes I'd use byte (when I was a kid) to determine what hardware cards to buy, for the Apple II+. I kept hoping that all this sophisticated s-100 bus stuff would trickle down to something we could afford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Implementing Spacewar! - 212 Pages 132,028,936 bytes BYTE Issue Vol 02-10 October 1977... I thought this would be a somewhat boring issue.. I was totally wrong! The Spacewar article is amazing.. Not only is the source code there but a thorough explanation of the game and how to hook it up to an oscilloscope. I also enjoyed the article on the new Commodore PET (the one with the really crappy keyboard) and the article on the future of color displays... Many more good articles, this is one of my favorite issues to date. Foreground RELOCATABILITY AND THE LONG BRANCH AN APL INTERPRETER FOR MICROCOMPUTERS, Part 3 HOW TO IMPLEMENT SPACE WAR ANALYZE YOUR CAR'S GAS ECONOMY WITH YOUR COMPUTER Background HOW TO WRITE AN APPLICATION PROGRAM OTHELLO, A NEW ANCI ENT GAME AN 8080 SIMULATOR FUNDAMENTALS OF SEQUENTIAL FILE PROCESSING C: A LANGUAGE FOR MICROPROCESSORS? SIMPLE APPROACHES TO COMPUTER MUSIC SYNTHESIS STRUCTURED PROGRAM DESIGN COMPUTER INFORMATION ARRANGEMENT MASTERMIND Nucleus In This BYTE The Colorful Future of Personal Computing Letters About the Cover . .. and Some More of the Same Languages Forum : Defining LI L, a Little Interpretive Language Commodore's New PET Computer The NCC: A Dallas Delight Technical Forum: More on Inexpensive Plotters Book Reviews BYTE's Bits BYTE's Bugs Clubs, Newsletters Ask BYTE What's New? Classified Ads BOMB Reader Service Download it here: BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Implementing Spacewar! Cover Index 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erd Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Spacewar Implementation - 212 Pages 132,028,936 bytes BYTE Issue Vol 02-10 October 1977... I thought this would be a somewhat boring issue.. I was totally wrong! The Spacewar article is amazing.. Not only is the source code there but a through explanation of the game and how to hook it up to an oscilloscope. I also enjoyed the article on the new Commodore PET (the one with the really crappy keyboard)... Indeed. The original PET was how I got my start at age 11 (I recently picked up a chicklet-keyboard PET at the Vintage Computerfest-Midwest, which I'm now restoring). And how about "C: A LANGUAGE FOR MICROPROCESSORS?" (especially since in other contemporary coverage, C was subordinated to PL/1 and FORTRAN for "serious" work, and to BASIC and PASCAL for simpler exercises - boy how that changed just a few years later). Download it here: BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Spacewar Implementation I'm getting a 404 right now (and the covers didn't render in this post). Having site problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Spacewar Implementation - 212 Pages 132,028,936 bytes BYTE Issue Vol 02-10 October 1977... I thought this would be a somewhat boring issue.. I was totally wrong! The Spacewar article is amazing.. Not only is the source code there but a through explanation of the game and how to hook it up to an oscilloscope. I also enjoyed the article on the new Commodore PET (the one with the really crappy keyboard)... Indeed. The original PET was how I got my start at age 11 (I recently picked up a chicklet-keyboard PET at the Vintage Computerfest-Midwest, which I'm now restoring). And how about "C: A LANGUAGE FOR MICROPROCESSORS?" (especially since in other contemporary coverage, C was subordinated to PL/1 and FORTRAN for "serious" work, and to BASIC and PASCAL for simpler exercises - boy how that changed just a few years later). Download it here: BYTE Vol 02-10 1977-10 Implementing Spacewar I'm getting a 404 right now (and the covers didn't render in this post). Having site problems? I had the year wrong on the filename (and the name was wrong on here as well).. I always get something wrong but I usually get it fixed before someone notices.. You guys are too fast! Speaking of which.. Your quote still has the wrong url.. Can you fix that? There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. I should have another Issue up Saturday.. An Issue from 1978 focusing on Pascal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erd Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Oftentimes I'd use byte (when I was a kid) to determine what hardware cards to buy, for the Apple II+. I kept hoping that all this sophisticated s-100 bus stuff would trickle down to something we could afford! We started subscribing to Byte in 1979, right before we bought a 32K PET with full-sized keyboard (used it was $1100 with external C2N tape drive!) We never waited for stuff to trickle down, but I did read all the ads for the S-100 stuff and was amazed at what a serious system would cost (48K-64K plus floppies plus dumb terminal was "standard" by then, and cost a couple grand). I don't remember first-gen S-100 stuff being widely available at used prices (perhaps because folks held on to what they had and upgraded, or perhaps because it just wasn't easy to advertise used gear). Edited December 16, 2010 by erd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 by trickle down, I mean going from this -- http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/s100c/hayes/micro100.jpg to this -- http://www.apple2world.jp/apple2/COL/MapItems/card/img/MICROMODEM2.jpg Eventually the elite s-100 bus stuff made its way into the affordable and accessable home market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BydoEmpire Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 That Spacewar article was freaking awesome. Thanks again for sharing these - really interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog2112 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, I have fairly limited scanning equipment, and do not want to cut my magazines up - however, here's a scan of page 90. Perhaps somebody with good editing skills and a PDF editor could stitch these together? If you need me to scan again (differently, higher res, etc. currently scanned at 300x300), let me know. Edited December 16, 2010 by raindog2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog2112 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, I have fairly limited scanning equipment, and do not want to cut my magazines up - however, here's a scan of page 90. Perhaps somebody with good editing skills and a PDF editor could stitch these together? If you need me to scan again (differently, higher res, etc. currently scanned at 300x300), let me know. For some reason when I edited the attachment got lost... Here it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Oftentimes I'd use byte (when I was a kid) to determine what hardware cards to buy, for the Apple II+. I kept hoping that all this sophisticated s-100 bus stuff would trickle down to something we could afford! We started subscribing to Byte in 1979, right before we bought a 32K PET with full-sized keyboard (used it was $1100 with external C2N tape drive!) We never waited for stuff to trickle down, but I did read all the ads for the S-100 stuff and was amazed at what a serious system would cost (48K-64K plus floppies plus dumb terminal was "standard" by then, and cost a couple grand). I don't remember first-gen S-100 stuff being widely available at used prices (perhaps because folks held on to what they had and upgraded, or perhaps because it just wasn't easy to advertise used gear). In the late 80's and early 90's in the old computer shopper magazines you could buy S-100 boards by the pound.. Had we known what the S-100 stuff would sell for on eBay 10 years later..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Book: Out of the Inner Circle So I was cleaning an old toolbox out and came across a couple of old books... They are not in too great of shape so I decided to hack them up and scan them in.. The first one is from 1985 and is called "Out of the Inner Circle". I remember reading this book as a teenager after I got my first modem and thought I was going to be the best hacker ever heh ANTIC did a blurb on it: ANTIC Blurb A couple of interesting trivia points on this book.. The author (18 y/o at the time) was supposed to write a second book but vanished while writing it.. The PC was left on with some sort of suicide note. That was the story I always remembered.. While doing a little reading today it looks like he just disappeared for a few months.. though nobody seems to have ever seen him again after he was spotted in Seattle a few months after vanishing... You can read about it in this phrack from back then: Phrack archive - You will need to search for "landreth" to find the story... The other trivia point.. The last person to see Bill Landreth before he vanished (he was living with him - the guy went to take a shower and when he came back Bill Landreth was gone with the PC in mid sentence of a book they were writing) was another person busted by the FBI back then.. Turns out the guy ended up doing OK http://techcrunch.com/2008/08/30/myspace-cofounder-tom-anderson-was-a-real-life-wargames-hacker-in-1980s/ Read it! Its an interesting read: Out of the Inner Circle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share Posted December 18, 2010 There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, I have fairly limited scanning equipment, and do not want to cut my magazines up - however, here's a scan of page 90. Perhaps somebody with good editing skills and a PDF editor could stitch these together? If you need me to scan again (differently, higher res, etc. currently scanned at 300x300), let me know. For some reason when I edited the attachment got lost... Here it is. I am still trying to figure out how to save the image to my computer .... no right-click save-as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I am still trying to figure out how to save the image to my computer .... no right-click save-as WAAAAY down in the lower-right hand corner is a picture of a little disk with "Save". Click that. You'll need to scroll to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) http://www.wa4dsy.net/heatherington/hayes/videos.html Some videos and inside Hayes micromodems -- http://www.wa4dsy.net/heatherington/hayes/videos.html A little inside look at the most popular modem of the time, so prominently featured in byte advertisements. The quality of these modems was outstanding. When the advertisements stress quality it was an understatement. I could only wish that today's stuff would be built this way. Not even apple products compare.. The micromodem ][ was seemingly invulnerable to static discharges, me at the time, a 10 year old kid, we'd reconfigure our apple ][ several times a day, and leave the modem on the carpet floor, in winter! The metal-cased external ones were basically aluminum ingots! You could run them over with a car and not break them. !! Amazing!! Today, if I drop my siht-ahssed motorola modem, it's broked'fer good!! Cheap crap. Edited December 18, 2010 by Keatah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 BYTE Vol 03-08 1978-08 Pascal - 212 Pages 127,989,324 bytes BYTE Issue Vol 03-08 August 1978... I hope you like Pascal because they really went overboard with it in this issue.. Articles on comparing it to BASIC, an article on comparing it to COBOL, articles on structured programming, an article on compilation of Pascal.. Pascal Pascal Pascal. Foreground COMPILATION AND PASCAL ON THE NEW MICROPROCESSORS PASCAL: A Structurally Strong Language DESIGNING STRUCTURED PROGRAMS LET YOUR FINGERS DO THE TALKING: Add a Noncontact Touch Scanner Background ON BUILDING A LIGHT-SEEKING ROBOT MECHANISM THE NUMBER CRUNCHING PROCESSOR PHILADELPHIA'S 179 YEAR OLD ANDROID ANTIQUE MECHANICAL COMPUTERS, Part 2 IN PRAISE OF PASCAL PASCAL VERSUS COBOL: Where Pascal Gets Down to Business JACPOT PASCAL VERSUS BASIC: An Exercise Nucleus In This BYTE A Vision of an Industry Letters Technical Forum: A Letter Exchange: Extending S-100 Bus? About the Cover Languages Forum: A Homebrew Pascal Compiler Clubs, Newsletters BYTE's Bugs Consistency - or a Lack Thereof Languages Forum: A Proposed Pascal Compiler Event Queue What's New? Unclassified Ads BOMB Reader Service Download it here: BYTE Vol 03-08 1978-08 Pascal Cover Index 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog2112 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, I have fairly limited scanning equipment, and do not want to cut my magazines up - however, here's a scan of page 90. Perhaps somebody with good editing skills and a PDF editor could stitch these together? If you need me to scan again (differently, higher res, etc. currently scanned at 300x300), let me know. For some reason when I edited the attachment got lost... Here it is. I am still trying to figure out how to save the image to my computer .... no right-click save-as I think in Firefox (for the Mac) at least if you right click and select "Save link as..." then it should do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 There was a comment that a few of the pages were a bit washed out in the last 1986 posting.. I noticed that and forgot to go back and fix it.. I tossed the magazine before reading the post so unfortunately I can't do anything about it. Unfortunately, I have fairly limited scanning equipment, and do not want to cut my magazines up - however, here's a scan of page 90. Perhaps somebody with good editing skills and a PDF editor could stitch these together? If you need me to scan again (differently, higher res, etc. currently scanned at 300x300), let me know. For some reason when I edited the attachment got lost... Here it is. I am still trying to figure out how to save the image to my computer .... no right-click save-as I think in Firefox (for the Mac) at least if you right click and select "Save link as..." then it should do the trick. After clicking on the thumbnail photo itself, it opens in a java window, then lower right corner you click save, THEN it opens in a fresh tab to which you can right click or use whatever support your browser has to save images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Fitting ad, I think Shatner's toupee was the wonder toupee of the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Fitting ad, I think Shatner's toupee was the wonder toupee of the 80's. I wonder if Atari sued Commodore for the blantant lies in there for the 400: Doesnt work with Disk drive, Printer, and modem Max 16k memory 0 Programmable function keys (Start/Select/Option) Microsoft Basic N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Page 90 is kind of washed out, but still readable. Could it have been that way in the original? This has been fixed (thanks to raindog2112 for scanning the faded page) and re-uploaded to the original location. I think this thread has been mentioned elsewhere recently as there has been a major upswing in the bandwidth being used.. Nothing too bad yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpNugget Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 BYTE Vol 00-06 1976-02 Color Graphics - 100 Pages 54,765,923 bytes Issue #6 of BYTE Magazine... My Dear Aunt Sally on the cover.. I always remembered her as "Sally Forth" in Analog magazine - boy that broad gets around! Looks like she is all about parser algorithms this month. Foreground KEYBOARD MODIFICATION LEDs LIGHT UP YOUR LOGIC BUILD A TTL PULSE CATCHER DRESSING UP FRONT PANELS Background MY DEAR AUNT SALLY PROCESSING ALGEBRAIC EXPRESSIONS DATA PATHS THE NEW ALTAIR 680 HOW TO SAVE THE BYTES MORE ON THE SWTPC 6800 SYSTEM TV COLOR GRAPHICS COULD A COMPUTER TAKE OVER? Nucleus In This BYTE Join the Club Letters Our New Offices BYTE's Bits Chips Found Floating Down Silicon Slough Classified Ads Numbers Clubs, Newsletters Audio Cassette Standards Symposium View From Silicon Valley 8080 Op Code Table Book Reviews BOMB The BYTE Questionnaire Reader's Service Download it here: BYTE Vol 00-05 1977-02 Color Graphics Cover Index I was going to post up a larger issue this week but seeing as how we have 35 current readers in this thread (up from the 3-4 at any given time normally) and we went from 14000 to 15000 in the thread reads in one day.. I thought I better put up a smaller issue just to be safe... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Fitting ad, I think Shatner's toupee was the wonder toupee of the 80's. I wonder if Atari sued Commodore for the blantant lies in there for the 400: Doesnt work with Disk drive, Printer, and modem Max 16k memory 0 Programmable function keys (Start/Select/Option) Microsoft Basic N/A Actually, the way Commodore phrased it, it's not really a lie since you'd need an extra device to connect all of those peripherals. Same thing with Microsoft BASIC. You'd have to buy it separately. These types of comparative ads were fairly common from the 70's through the late 80's (both videogames and computers) and each ad did some funky stuff (sometimes even combining things like RAM and ROM to make their system appear to have more memory) - short of out and out lies - to make their systems look the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bcombee Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 This thread was just mentioned in a story on Hacker News about the relaunching of BYTE.com, see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2033728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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