+Steve Jones Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 The box looks pretty rough inside that stupid plastic case, look at the edges. WATA rating is only a 6. So is being WATA rated adding to value even if the rating is low? Like if a beat to hell box inside a case was only rated a 1, would it still be more valuable because it was rated? The whole WATA thing seems like a total scam indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Steve Jones said: The box looks pretty rough inside that stupid plastic case, look at the edges. WATA rating is only a 6. So is being WATA rated adding to value even if the rating is low? Like if a beat to hell box inside a case was only rated a 1, would it still be more valuable because it was rated? The whole WATA thing seems like a total scam indeed. The problem is that the cost of grading and associated shipping is at least $40, so that's the starting price for pretty much anything graded. No one should be grading anything that's worth less than $100 on its own. That MLB is worth maybe $10 and the grading adds nothing but the cost of grading. Scam indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificat Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 5 hours ago, JasonlikesINTV said: The problem is that the cost of grading and associated shipping is at least $40, so that's the starting price for pretty much anything graded. No one should be grading anything that's worth less than $100 on its own. That MLB is worth maybe $10 and the grading adds nothing but the cost of grading. Scam indeed. I find the whole grading process unnecessary. I only started collecting vintage systems (and repairing them) for my own personal use and reliving nostalgia of acquiring stuff I had growing up. The prices are a bit disturbing as of late for all vintage products as I collect for Apple II, C64, Tandy, 2600 and intellivision and I suspect 'these grading systems are designed to drive prices even higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 3 hours ago, magnificat said: I find the whole grading process unnecessary. I only started collecting vintage systems (and repairing them) for my own personal use and reliving nostalgia of acquiring stuff I had growing up. The prices are a bit disturbing as of late for all vintage products as I collect for Apple II, C64, Tandy, 2600 and intellivision and I suspect 'these grading systems are designed to drive prices even higher. They are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDumer Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 20 hours ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: Thats because its a scam and they have no idea what they're doing. I often see these WATA slabbed Intellivision Inc. games and there is no mention on the label that it's Intellivision Inc. - it just says "Mattel Electronics". Nevermind that an Intellivision Inc. Backgammon or Roulette would be much more desirable than the Mattel version. You are right, they have no idea what they are doing. And, I know, they don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 976 bucks for a sealed Intellivision II!!! I paid mine 240 bucks one year ago… https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mattel-INTELLIVISION-2-Vintage-Electronic-Video-game-Computer-Console-SEALED-/115303438886?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Morpheus said: 976 bucks for a sealed Intellivision II!!! I paid mine 240 bucks one year ago… https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mattel-INTELLIVISION-2-Vintage-Electronic-Video-game-Computer-Console-SEALED-/115303438886?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 I don’t know. That seller seems to have an awful lot of “record breaking” auction results. Not sure I trust that as a true value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Morpheus said: 976 bucks for a sealed Intellivision II!!! I paid mine 240 bucks one year ago… https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mattel-INTELLIVISION-2-Vintage-Electronic-Video-game-Computer-Console-SEALED-/115303438886?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 3 hours ago, Atari_Bill said: I don’t know. That seller seems to have an awful lot of “record breaking” auction results. Not sure I trust that as a true value. Yah that's a weird one to me. Sealed inty 2's usually come up a few times per year. I've bought lots of handhelds from the seller and he's a good seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, cmart604 said: Yah that's a weird one to me. Sealed inty 2's usually come up a few times per year. I've bought lots of handhelds from the seller and he's a good seller. That’s the thing…. I’ve seen many perfectly normal auctions from them while at the same time seeing more than normal HUGE $$$$$ auctions too. I don’t quite know what to make of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Good seller as in he makes himself lots of money. He has lied left and right in the past. I would not hesitate for a second to think he would even reglue that box shut. Total huckster in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Anyone looking for a Tutor Pro? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intellivision-Super-Pro-INTV-System-III-Model-3504-RARE-WITH-box-TESTED-WORKING-/275241936544?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Lathe26 said: Anyone looking for a Tutor Pro? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intellivision-Super-Pro-INTV-System-III-Model-3504-RARE-WITH-box-TESTED-WORKING-/275241936544?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 And gone. They don’t last long. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 hours ago, stupus said: Good seller as in he makes himself lots of money. He has lied left and right in the past. I would not hesitate for a second to think he would even reglue that box shut. Total huckster in my book. Really? That sucks. I've bought lots from him over the years and haven't had any issues. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Atari_Bill said: And gone. They don’t last long. ? I went to check it out right after you posted it... it was already sold. Pricey though... Ive already been Duped twice thinking i might get one. Both times they were regular units with the shielding removed. So im always hesitant. Wonder who nabbed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterSky Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Looking at a picture of that auction, trying to catch if it could be a tutor board or not I see this details: compared to the tutor board of my Super Pro it seems the same chip in the same location: even if the big capacitor has a different color. May be an hint? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 hours ago, MonsterSky said: Looking at a picture of that auction, trying to catch if it could be a tutor board or not I see this details: compared to the tutor board of my Super Pro it seems the same chip in the same location: even if the big capacitor has a different color. May be an hint? We still can't know if it would be a full tutor or partial though, Right? Without opening the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 9:42 AM, cmart604 said: Really? That sucks. I've bought lots from him over the years and haven't had any issues. Weird. I mean i dont think he is 1 to not follow through on deals. I have bought items from him in the past and they arrived fine. It's more that he lies about the origin of his things and the rarity and just ridiculously hypes his stuff. Definitely a big flipper who claims this is all stuff he has had for years etc etc. He tries to corner items too like others have done in the past....robotkingnes, happiestseller, etc. Buying up all the ones that come up and then listing a bunch of the same things at super high prices to create artificial rarity for specific items. Not a practice I like to support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I would love to get one of these in the collection however the risk seems high in not actually getting one. Price is not so much the issue for me I just don't want to pay the price for a non TutorVision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, BBWW said: I would love to get one of these in the collection however the risk seems high in not actually getting one. Price is not so much the issue for me I just don't want to pay the price for a non TutorVision. Unfortunately we have to take chances to find them sometimes. (Im looking too... although i thought price on that one was too high being that it was unsure if it was Tutor pro.) If it is for sure, i would pay it to have one in my collection. Ive already took a chance on 2 previously and have been disappointed. Maybe eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Intellivision starter kit. $70,000 starting bid. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intellivision-Consoles-Keyboard-Component-Printer-Owned-by-David-Chandler-/275245497852?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Lathe26 said: Intellivision starter kit. $70,000 starting bid. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intellivision-Consoles-Keyboard-Component-Printer-Owned-by-David-Chandler-/275245497852?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 Wow!!! Bit pricey… And the Amico limited edition games "WATA ready" are arriving!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/234489512125?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=94JNsoDcTvG&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Nuf-_TBYSPC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterSky Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 10 hours ago, stupus said: We still can't know if it would be a full tutor or partial though, Right? Without opening the case? Having the console you could use the FW diagnostic cart to test if is a full Tutor Vision without opening it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 10 hours ago, MonsterSky said: Having the console you could use the FW diagnostic cart to test if is a full Tutor Vision without opening it. Right, but it seem before buying one the only thing we can know is its a partial tutor. Unless the seller can open it or test it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 2:19 AM, Morpheus said: Wow!!! Bit pricey… And the Amico limited edition games "WATA ready" are arriving!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/234489512125?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=94JNsoDcTvG&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Nuf-_TBYSPC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Sold, just have to wait and see if it gets graded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, roadrunner said: Sold, just have to wait and see if it gets graded. Wow! Bit sad to see that Amico became stuff to be collected even before making to the market…?? I paid that Limited Collector’s Edition 8 games pack approx 180 bucks, 22,5 bucks each, shipping included. That one got sold at 95 bucks… Wow!!! How much it was the original price in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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