luckybuck Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 If it is just that level, we would already have found it... Go deeper, like the Mario Broth... Russ is the jedi, I am just a wannabe padawan, 1st year... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amis Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, luckybuck said: If it is just that level, we would already have found it... Go deeper, like the Mario Broth... Russ is the jedi, I am just a wannabe padawan, 1st year... 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, JohnPolka said: The dongle should be the toilet lever. 😆 -JP I thought the dongle is the source of what the sensor is sensing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 The force is with the dongle... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 The force is the result of the dongle... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 hours ago, bf2k+ said: The force is the result of the dongle... You mean the dongle (i.e., the lever) is used after the Force! 😆 -JP 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5111879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 19 hours ago, JohnPolka said: Russ is really your last hope? So, you will finally give up on this search if/when Russ comes up empty handed? 😆 -JP I may find it yet, I have not given up, I have maybe 12 Atari CDs with software on them, I just have to look through them, one thing about me is that I never give up, just look at the amount of time I spent on FXEP, and yes I have found a way to run these online games from Puff BBS, I will not have full internet service until after September 5th 2022... that's when I get my new 1 GB service for $80.00 Canadian a month. (Right now I am using my cell phone as a hotspot), it keeps me connected for important stuff.... but that does not include running any BBSs until September 5th 2022. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, rcamp48 said: I may find it yet, I have not given up, I have maybe 12 Atari CDs with software on them, I just have to look through them, one thing about me is that I never give up, just look at the amount of time I spent on FXEP, and yes I have found a way to run these online games from Puff BBS, I will not have full internet service until after September 5th 2022... that's when I get my new 1 GB service for $80.00 Canadian a month. (Right now I am using my cell phone as a hotspot), it keeps me connected for important stuff.... but that does not include running any BBSs until September 5th 2022. Here's an idea... how about you "under promise and (hopefully) over deliver" instead of "over promise and under deliver"? That way, people like Luckybuck aren't let down when you give them disappointing news. In other words, just say "I'll look for it" instead of "I probably have it". -JP Edited August 25, 2022 by JohnPolka 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We got a @Mazzspeed sighting! Hey, Mazz, why have you been so quiet lately (especially on the Atari BBSs)? -JP Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 8 hours ago, JohnPolka said: You mean the dongle (i.e., the lever) is used after the Force! 😆 -JP No the force I was referring to is the force that overcomes gravity in the bowl... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopeyman06 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) On 8/18/2022 at 3:39 PM, Dopeyman06 said: Would be using: Atari800MacX v6.0.1 Carina II v2.7 (BBS: On A Stick version) Hello y'all... For quite some time I've been 50/50 about putting up a BBS. My software of choice is Carina II. At the moment I've had one running for a while but just for testing. I haven't gone public yet since I'm still undecided. One of my main concerns is its' networking capabilities. When I try to run "ICN_EDIT", I get an error 5 at line 3010 (I removed the REM at line 25005). So my question is, does networking actually work or am I beating a dead horse?? I'd like to get the networking working if at all possible. At the moment there are 2 other Carina II boards up and running. So it'd be pretty neat-o to get it functioning. 😁 Ok, so if I somehow managed to get this networking error fixed, how would I get it to call another Carina board? How does BBS Express! Pro do it?? Edited August 26, 2022 by Dopeyman06 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dopeyman06 said: Ok, so if I somehow managed to get this networking error fixed, how would I get it to call another Carina board? How does BBS Express! Pro do it?? It really doesn't matter how BBS Express Pro! does it. It's a completely different BBS program. But for what it is worth, this is what I had to do for BBS Express Pro! Since Altirra only understands ATDI for connecting to a BBS over the Internet, I had to create a little "bridge" module that makes the actual connection. The networking module only supports ATDP or ATDT dial strings. And unfortunately, the dial string is not just something you can edit in the module object code with a hex editor. So, the bridge that I wrote makes the connection, launches the original networking module which dials "1", and then connects to the other BBS. It's a little more involved than that, but that's essentially the gist of it. Of course, if you are using native hardware, then most Internet modem devices understand ATDT, so you don't have to do anything special to support Altirra's ATDI. Since Carina is written in Basic, I suspect the networking portion could easily be modified for Internet connections, no? -JP Edited August 26, 2022 by JohnPolka Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopeyman06 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, JohnPolka said: It really doesn't matter how BBS Express Pro! does it. It's a completely different BBS program. But for what it is worth, this is what I had to do for BBS Express Pro! Since Altirra only understands ATDI for connecting to a BBS over the Internet, I had to create a little "bridge" module that makes the actual connection. The networking module only supports ATDP or ATDT dial strings. And unfortunately, the dial string is not just something you can edit in the module object code with a hex editor. So, the bridge that I wrote makes the connection, launches the original networking module which dials "1", and then connects to the other BBS. It's a little more involved than that, but that's essentially the gist of it. Of course, if you are using native hardware, then most Internet modem devices understand ATDT, so you don't have to do anything special to support Altirra's ATDI. Since Carina is written in Basic, I suspect the networking portion could easily be modified for Internet connections, no? -JP Ok, yeah. I understand that part about the ATDT or ATDI. I'm using emulation so it's gonna be ATDI. But I'm wondering about what it's actually gonna "dial". For example on my screenshot under [D] phone number, what's it gonna be? basementbbs.ddns.net 9000? ptbbs.ddns.net:8000? Colon? No colon? I guess that's what I was trying to ask about Pro! How is it entered into the networking editor? Cheeze and JayCanada are able to run ICN_EDIT without getting that error 5. I have no idea why I'm the only one getting it. Edited August 26, 2022 by Dopeyman06 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Dopeyman06 said: Ok, yeah. I understand that part about the ATDT or ATDI. I'm using emulation so it's gonna be ATDI. But I'm wondering about what it's actually gonna "dial". For example on my screenshot under [D] phone number, what's it gonna be? basementbbs.ddns.net 9000? ptbbs.ddns.net:8000? Colon? No colon? I guess that's what I was trying to ask about Pro! How is it entered into the networking editor? Cheeze and JayCanada are able to run ICN_EDIT without getting that error 5. I have no idea why I'm the only one getting it. No colon on Altirra; just a space between the IP address and port. On Altirra, the format is "ATDI (IP address) (port)". If you have enough space, then use the domain name form (e.g., ATDI basementbbs.ddns.net 9000). Otherwise, use the numeric IP address (e.g., ATDI 24.22.120.147 9000). You can get both forms from the Atari BBS list off the SFHQ website (http://sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php). There's a button at the top of the web page that toggles which Internet address form it displays. -JP Edited August 26, 2022 by JohnPolka Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopeyman06 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, JohnPolka said: No colon on Altirra; just a space between the IP address and port. On Altirra, the format is "ATDI (IP address) (port)". If you have enough space, then use the domain name form (e.g., ATDI basementbbs.ddns.net 9000). Otherwise, use the numeric IP address (e.g., ATDI 24.22.120.147 9000). You can get both forms from the Atari BBS list off the SFHQ website (http://sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php). There's a button at the top of the web page that toggles which Internet address form it displays. -JP Yup. Same with Atari800MacX. No colon. Just a space. That's how I do it when I use BobTerm. Ok, cool.. Cheeze gave me SysOp access, so I'm gonna be playing with his networking to see if I can do something with Jay. Hopefully we can get this working 🤞 Thanks for the help 👍 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Has anyone been able to connect to a local BBS that is running from a phone hotspot? I would like to do that at the retro show on Sunday but they have no internet so I have to use my phone that may present a problem. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 8:30 AM, JohnPolka said: We got a @Mazzspeed sighting! Hey, Mazz, why have you been so quiet lately (especially on the Atari BBSs)? -JP I've been on Basement BBS JP, lurking in the background. Just a bit busy ATM, hoping to get some downtime soon so I can have a bit of a BBS chat session again. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5112928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Mazzspeed said: I've been on Basement BBS JP, lurking in the background. Just a bit busy ATM, hoping to get some downtime soon so I can have a bit of a BBS chat session again. Nice to see and hear from you again! I was worried we may have lost you to a dumpster diving accident. -JP Edited August 28, 2022 by JohnPolka 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5113320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just a reminder for those who know... and a notification for those who didn't, today marks the start of STar Fleet HQ's SEE tournament. $50 prize for the Space Lord... $25 for the runner up... $25 for the player who takes out the Satharians (all prizes are in US Dollars) We had probably about 6ish players in last month's "Just for fun" practice tournament, so we're hoping for a good time. STar Fleet HQ can be reached at bbs . sfhqbbs . org : 5983 (raw connection is preferred). If you haven't called a BBS before, you can get some information on the Atari 8-bit BBS thread or from the Atari BBS Gurus club "BBS Callers" resources. https://forums.atariage.com/forum/223-bbs-callers/ There is also SyncTerm for the PC crowd... https://syncterm.bbsdev.net/ For SFHQ, you'll want to use ANSI, but SyncTerm does a great job with ATASCII for the 8-bit BBS's as well, and you can find more at http://sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php Looking forward to seeing you there! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5116103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Both Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I'm able to connect to a BBS using Fujinet. The two programs I thinkered around with was Bobterm and Flickerterm. No problems to connect to The dark force BBS. Also created an account. And then? No idea how to operate that BBS. On Commodore BBSes, there is ? or h for a listing of all the possible control codes. How to get it on dark force? How to interrupt the listing of the 73 new messages, for example? Is there a "menu" for standard settings like 40/80 characters, auto scroll or other stuff? How to log off correct without dropping the line? The reason for my questions is a guest lecture next weekend. I introduce the #Fujinet on the Classic-Compuing '22 in germany. Would be nice to show BBS ing too. Any kind of help is highly appreciated ! Stefan Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5118004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 The ? should work just the same on Dark Force for the menus, just like it does on all of them (like mine, SFHQ) If you're looking for some others... http://www.sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5118029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, Stefan Both said: I'm able to connect to a BBS using Fujinet. Congratulations on getting your FujiNet working. 46 minutes ago, Stefan Both said: The two programs I thinkered around with was Bobterm and Flickerterm. No problems to connect to The dark force BBS. Also created an account. And then? No idea how to operate that BBS. The DarkForce! BBS is pretty much like any other standard BBS. Menu's are given that show options the user can pick. 46 minutes ago, Stefan Both said: On Commodore BBSes, there is ? or h for a listing of all the possible control codes. How to get it on dark force? Er...that's exactly what you use on DarkForce for help as well. Pretty much " ? " from almost any screen. 46 minutes ago, Stefan Both said: How to interrupt the listing of the 73 new messages, for example? I'm not sure what 73 new messages you would have gotten as a new user... 46 minutes ago, Stefan Both said: Is there a "menu" for standard settings like 40/80 characters, auto scroll or other stuff? How to log off correct without dropping the line? The reason for my questions is a guest lecture next weekend. I introduce the #Fujinet on the Classic-Compuing '22 in germany. Would be nice to show BBS ing too. Any kind of help is highly appreciated ! Stefan Yes. Hit "E" for [E]dit Parameters. From there you can pick your options. Be advised, DarkForce is an ST board so 40 columns is not exactly directly supported. 80 columns is the default standard and will give the best results. As far as logging off goes, hit " X " for exit from the main command prompt. It's listed on the Main Menu when you type in " ? ". Classic-Computing '22? Wow, that sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for showcasing Atari there. I'll second what Tillek said in his reply - check out that website for other Atari BBS's. With the 8bit boards, you can demonstrate ATASCII graphics as well. HTH's. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5118042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, DarkLord said: Classic-Computing '22? Wow, that sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for showcasing Atari there. I'll second what Tillek said in his reply - check out that website for other Atari BBS's. With the 8bit boards, you can demonstrate ATASCII graphics as well. Probably should also mention, as much as I'd love for you to feature an ST BBS (even if it >IS< DarkLords.... ) Hawaii and MouseNet are German based BBS's. I believe most of the users are Canadian/American, so it's generally all in English, but if you want to support your fellow countryman, that's the way to go in my opinion. I don't have the addresses for them handy, but it's on the BBS list I posted in my last reply (both BBS's are run by the same guy). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5118062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Both Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 hours ago, DarkLord said: ... - check out that website for other Atari BBS's. With the 8bit boards, you can demonstrate ATASCII graphics as well. HTH's. Thank you for your kind words, yes I was able to get it working. The worst part however was, collecting the parts needed. Regarding ATASCII graphics... err... That could be the problem... I'll test it this evening. Stefan Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/174831-atari-8-bit-related-bbss/page/103/#findComment-5118157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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