mimo Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I don't think Atari made SECAM units until the XL series. I believe someone here (maybe Rhod) has a SECAM 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 My 400 is boxed, but I can get to it relatively easily. I'll test it for GTIA and post the serial this weekend. Unfortunately, it's not my original 400 from 1982. Got this one off of ebay, and promptly added 48kB to it. This sucks! I finally dig the machine out and - sticker has been ripped off the bottom. No serial number to post There is however, a stamp on the lower case that says "ATARI 7 422" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 My 400 is boxed, but I can get to it relatively easily. I'll test it for GTIA and post the serial this weekend. Unfortunately, it's not my original 400 from 1982. Got this one off of ebay, and promptly added 48kB to it. This sucks! I finally dig the machine out and - sticker has been ripped off the bottom. No serial number to post There is however, a stamp on the lower case that says "ATARI 7 422" I've seen paper stickers on the inside of some 400/800's. (stuck to the boards and such). Maybe there's still a copy of the number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 This sucks! I finally dig the machine out and - sticker has been ripped off the bottom. No serial number to post There is however, a stamp on the lower case that says "ATARI 7 422" Looks like AV 461?73 datecode 422 to me. That's week 42 of 1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 This sucks! I finally dig the machine out and - sticker has been ripped off the bottom. No serial number to post There is however, a stamp on the lower case that says "ATARI 7 422" Looks like AV 461?73 datecode 422 to me. That's week 42 of 1982. No chance of a CTIA in this thing then. This machine is slightly newer than my original one would have been. I got it on 8/12/82 (32nd week). That one also had GTIA when I got it. Fortunately, it had a real keyboard when I got it. I don't remember the date that it got upgraded to 48k, but do remember it was after spending days typing in Caves of Ice, saving to cassette, debugging, all to get the lovely error 147. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 NTSC boxed model AV 421 708 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'm sorry, my boxed 400 (same one as listed above) has these markings: At the "top" of the bottom, is stamped "ATARI / 142" The serial on the larger label is "AV 210552" Under that (and placed on before (beneath) the main label) is a smaller label that says "G 141 AV083743-16 3/31 L20 H" There are no other stampings/labels/stickers on the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 At the "top" of the bottom, is stamped "ATARI / 142" The serial on the larger label is "AV 210552" Under that (and placed on before (beneath) the main label) is a smaller label that says "G 141 AV083743-16 3/31 L20 H" Maybe the smaller labels with second serial numbers on yours, mimo's and jacobus's are from repairs or exchanges through Atari service centers? Just speculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 At the "top" of the bottom, is stamped "ATARI / 142" The serial on the larger label is "AV 210552" Under that (and placed on before (beneath) the main label) is a smaller label that says "G 141 AV083743-16 3/31 L20 H" Maybe the smaller labels with second serial numbers on yours, mimo's and jacobus's are from repairs or exchanges through Atari service centers? Just speculating. Well, but it's underneath the main label, that's why I wrote that. It is odd though, so I don't know. I'll just get a pic, a pic is worth 1000 words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 See how the smaller label is below the main label? Like it was applied before the main one? It seems unlikely anyone would have pulled up the main one to stick the other one under it, but... I don't have a theory on this though. I have no idea. EDIT: reduced photo size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 ...that's why I wrote that. Oops, sorry, missed that. So what's up with the two serial numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ...that's why I wrote that. Oops, sorry, missed that. So what's up with the two serial numbers? I have no idea... see my new post above with the label picture. The only other info/clue I can offer is that the serial on the box matches the AV 210552 number. And there are actually two serial stickers on the box, about an inch away from each other. Both are the "210552". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 My 400 is boxed, but I can get to it relatively easily. I'll test it for GTIA and post the serial this weekend. Unfortunately, it's not my original 400 from 1982. Got this one off of ebay, and promptly added 48kB to it. This sucks! I finally dig the machine out and - sticker has been ripped off the bottom. No serial number to post There is however, a stamp on the lower case that says "ATARI 7 422" Are you sure that stamping says "7" and isn't a "/"? On mine, it's pretty clearly a "/" unless it's stamped lightly and there is no top line to the "7". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 So what's up with the two serial numbers? I have no idea... see my new post above with the label picture. The only other info/clue I can offer is that the serial on the box matches the AV 210552 number. And there are actually two serial stickers on the box, about an inch away from each other. Both are the "210552". Yours looks a lot like mimo's, though his is PAL. And your top serial number is bigger than the one beneath. Could they be factory remanufactured units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Yours looks a lot like mimo's, though his is PAL. And your top serial number is bigger than the one beneath. Could they be factory remanufactured units? Actually, that's what I was starting to think too. Could it be that the serial on the small label was the original serial of the unit? Like they removed the original serial sticker, then printed the original serial on a small sticker, stuck it on, then stuck a new large main label with the new serial on it? Or did they not re-serialize their reman units? If some sense could be made of the serial system, then maybe we'd know if the bottom serial on mine was an older one. Maybe they had separate serialization for reman units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Are you sure that stamping says "7" and isn't a "/"? On mine, it's pretty clearly a "/" unless it's stamped lightly and there is no top line to the "7". Not 100% certain - the top bar of the 7 is a lot less deep. Maybe it was the edge of the tooling and it actually is a / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatohead Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I can't find any other marks on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Are you sure that stamping says "7" and isn't a "/"? On mine, it's pretty clearly a "/" unless it's stamped lightly and there is no top line to the "7". Not 100% certain - the top bar of the 7 is a lot less deep. Maybe it was the edge of the tooling and it actually is a / Here's a pic of mine, and I'm as certain as I could ever possibly be that mine is a /. Especially since the characters are filled with silver. I'm even more certain looking at it in real life than I am by looking at this pic. And I apologize for not just posting all this info in my first post up there... at the time I didn't realize that anything was of interest/significance other than just the serial. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Are you sure that stamping says "7" and isn't a "/"? On mine, it's pretty clearly a "/" unless it's stamped lightly and there is no top line to the "7". Not 100% certain - the top bar of the 7 is a lot less deep. Maybe it was the edge of the tooling and it actually is a / Here's a pic of mine, and I'm as certain as I could ever possibly be that mine is a /. Especially since the characters are filled with silver. I'm even more certain looking at it in real life than I am by looking at this pic. And I apologize for not just posting all this info in my first post up there... at the time I didn't realize that anything was of interest/significance other than just the serial. Sorry. Definitely a / then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sounds like the 400 was popular then, I though the 800 was more popular (perhaps i am wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sounds like the 400 was popular then, I though the 800 was more popular (perhaps i am wrong) I think the 800 was more popular. That's why I'm not offering to tabulate all those numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I have 5 of these, I'll list the Serials later in the week, Also need to check for GTIA/CTIA, never did that before so now is a good time to do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 The s/n on mine is AV 321493 and it has ATARI / 302 stamped in the case. Guess that means it was made the 30th week of 1982. Perry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 My 400er (PAL) is still fitetd with 16k, serial number BZ 105 407. Sleeπ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 400 was way more common here, among the user group I went to it was probably 10 to 1 or more. Really, once 48K upgrades became available, the only real reason for getting the 800 was the better keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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