Albert Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I really need to get the forum and associated modules (Gallery, Blogs, Tracker, Chat, etc.) updated to the latest versions. However, reskinning the forum is a very time consuming process. I'm wondering how people would feel if I updated the forum to the new version and did a minimum amount of skin work in order to get this done? I am looking to pay a "professional" skinner to redo the forum skin, but haven't found anyone just yet. But there are numerous features, fixes and improvements in the latest version of this software and I'd really like to get them implemented here.. Any thoughts? ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Won't be a problem for me. Do whatever you have to do. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sounds fine to me. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emehr Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This site could be pure ASCII and I would still be here. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 This site could be pure ASCII and I would still be here. That would be fun. I bet the site doesn't look very pretty in Lynx. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just pull the trigger Al I'm sure we'll cope. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatohead Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 No worries. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sounds good to me. The fact it's available and functional is more important than the window-dressing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian O Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Will the new forum be in 3-D? 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) This site could be pure ASCII and I would still be here. That would be fun. I bet the site doesn't look very pretty in Lynx. I've browsed Atariage in the past using a couple different text-only browsers, typically when I was using a slow and/or "borrowed" (ahem) wireless connection. It actually looks just fine! I really wish the guy responsible for WannaBe would update it for OS X. It was a great text-only browser in its day, and I used to use it all the time. Edited February 8, 2011 by thegoldenband Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I thought many AtariAge members were 'professionals' who could do stuff like that? Maybe if you'd post a global want ad above the forums, some trustworthy AtariAge member who needs the cash could get the job done for you? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I hate to be the old curmudgeon around here, but I have to say that I value the clean and uncluttered appearance of this forum far more than having the latest and greatest software features. To be honest, I don't even use any of the features that have made there way into the forum over the last couple of updates. Frankly, I would like to see most of what's been added disappear the way it seems like all of the features I really appreciated in the past (ability to block individual topics, PM archiving, Blog version 1.0, etc.) got dumped when these same "updates" were made. I've become quite skeptical about these "updates" as a consequence of all that. I'm going to assume that this update is going ahead regardless, and that this thread is really just to notify us to prepare ourselves for some imminent changes to the look and function of these forums. With that in mind, let me be the first to make a request that the "My Posts" feature be added back in. BTW, anybody see Kotaku's new layout? I only visit that site occasionally, but the primary reason I did so was because the site had a such a straightforward layout. You could catchup on a week's worth of industry news in about 5 minutes. The new layout is an utter disaster. Won't be spending much time there anymore. People often forget that when it comes to presenting visual information, form is function. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Will the new forum be in 3-D? Yes, but you have to use a new 3D monitor and have to have a pair of 3D Shutter Glasses (and the appropriate drivers for your OS--Linux users are probably out of luck). ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm going to assume that this update is going ahead regardless, and that this thread is really just to notify us to prepare ourselves for some imminent changes to the look and function of these forums. With that in mind, let me be the first to make a request that the "My Posts" feature be added back in. The updated forum software has this built in as standard, so I won't have to hack this in as I've had to in the past. BTW, anybody see Kotaku's new layout? I only visit that site occasionally, but the primary reason I did so was because the site had a such a straightforward layout. You could catchup on a week's worth of industry news in about 5 minutes. The new layout is an utter disaster. Won't be spending much time there anymore. People often forget that when it comes to presenting visual information, form is function. Yes, Gawker went to this new layout for all their sites and it's horrid. The updated forum software is pretty much identical in terms of layout, but there are many worthwhile improvements that I'd very much like to get in place here. Plus they've End-Of-Lined the software we're using now. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm going to assume that this update is going ahead regardless, and that this thread is really just to notify us to prepare ourselves for some imminent changes to the look and function of these forums. With that in mind, let me be the first to make a request that the "My Posts" feature be added back in. The updated forum software has this built in as standard, so I won't have to hack this in as I've had to in the past. :party: :party: There was much rejoicing in AtariAge Land, but the wise elders fell to their knees and prayed to the gods that this new 'standard' feature would survive through the hurricane-force winds of future updates. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This site could be pure ASCII and I would still be here. That would be fun. I bet the site doesn't look very pretty in Lynx. ..Al I've browsed AtariAge on my Apple IIe using Contiki. It's functional, but navigating is a pain! Tempest Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2204633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That would be fun. I bet the site doesn't look very pretty in Lynx. ..Al There's a lot of white space, but it's useable. I don't like how Lynx scrolls a full screen at a time though (at least by default). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2205699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The site looks great, and I love the current look... but it's the people that make the site, so any temporary look doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2205729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the Lynx screenshot, that's pretty interesting. I might actually try upgrading the forum "in-place" later tonight. That means I'd take the forum down, back everything up, upload the latest version of the forum source code, and then run the upgrade scripts for the Forum, Blog, Chat, Gallery, Downloads (not visible here yet), and other modules. Assuming that goes without a hitch, I'd then have an upgraded forum without the current AtariAge skin. I'd then have to spend at least some time skinning the forum to at least get the header at the top, colors and fonts to match the current forum and the rest of the site. When I'm satisfied with the results I'd then put the forum back up and unleash it upon everyone. Next I'd work on upgrading all the other skins, most especially the newest version of the (commercial) mobile skin which has been much improved for the iPhone, iPad, Android and other mobile devices. Most of the other skins should have updates as well, and I might open more of them up to everyone and not just subscribers. And I may buy a few new skins, as there have been some impressive efforts in the last year as people become more adept at skinning IP.Board 3.x. There are various modifications I've done to the forum software and I do need to spend at least a minimum amount of time investigating whether any of them are worth keeping, still relevant, or can be sacrificed in the name od progress. I'm hoping to get away from using mods that require source code edits, as those make it difficult to move forward with forum upgrades. There is a fairly new system for writing mods that does not involve directly patching the source (using "hooks"), which nearly all mod authors are using in the present. Probably about half of the modifications here are now hook-based, and those are the mods I can easily keep, as long as the mod authors have kept the mods up to date (which is usually the case). I do need to inventory what modifications have been made to the source (using a commercial diff/merge tool), so there are no surprises. Could be interesting. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2208985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Could be interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9uuPza41Uw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9uuPza41Uw&rel=0&fmt=35 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) I'd be most interested in having the blogs fixed, skinned or not. Edited February 14, 2011 by Nathan Strum Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'd be more interested in having the blogs fixed, skin or not. While I'm sure there are some useful updates to the forum software, the blogs have things that are just plain broken. The blogs will be updated as well. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Thanks - I caught that in your earlier post after I'd originally posted. So is skinning mostly graphics? Or a combination of graphics and coding? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 Thanks - I caught that in your earlier post after I'd originally posted. So is skinning mostly graphics? Or a combination of graphics and coding? Mostly CSS and HTML changes, some graphics as well (depending on how many of the stock graphics you want to replace). I'm not really satisfied with many of the graphics in the AtariAge forum skin, such as the orange and blue buttons used all over the place. I'd really like to have someone help me revamp the skin to make it a fair bit more polished.. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'd offer, but I only know enough about CSS and HTML to be dangerous. I do know a guy though... want me to PM you his info? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/176887-must-update-forum-no-time-to-skin-right-now/#findComment-2209895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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