Chris Leach Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. If these weren't coming out of Venezuela, I'd pick it up myself for $170 and have it ripped. But as it comes from V, its probably not worth more than $10 so items from venezuela are not originals? hmmmph...doubt that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwackery Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. If these weren't coming out of Venezuela, I'd pick it up myself for $170 and have it ripped. But as it comes from V, its probably not worth more than $10 so items from venezuela are not originals? hmmmph...doubt that... I wouldn't put words into Dino's mouth, but I believe what he is saying is that - based on past quantities of rare titles found in Venezuela - there are probably more than a couple of these items, and so the value now is disproportionate to what the eventual value will be once all copies are released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 If these weren't coming out of Venezuela, I'd pick it up myself for $170 and have it ripped. But as it comes from V, its probably not worth more than $10 I would still pay 100.00 for it, sure in a couple years from now they will be worth 10.00 oh well it beats paying a LOT more. I remember paying 200.00 for my Motorodeo. and was (and still is) very happy with the price. i know many others paid a LOT more. blast from the past: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/77357-fa-starting-at-0-99-motorodeo-sealed-unused-rare/page__hl__motorodeo Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. If these weren't coming out of Venezuela, I'd pick it up myself for $170 and have it ripped. But as it comes from V, its probably not worth more than $10 so items from venezuela are not originals? hmmmph...doubt that... I wouldn't put words into Dino's mouth, but I believe what he is saying is that - based on past quantities of rare titles found in Venezuela - there are probably more than a couple of these items, and so the value now is disproportionate to what the eventual value will be once all copies are released. Correct. Given the exposure Venezuelan games have had on this forum in the past I did not see the need to make this point clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojay1997 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 yea. and after ebay and paypal took probably %22 of the total cost including shipping... well. the seller didnt get what he should have. good to see other copies exist. better chance they will get "ripped" shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. Ebay takes 10% and Paypal is 3%. Not sure where your 22% is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 yea. and after ebay and paypal took probably %22 of the total cost including shipping... well. the seller didnt get what he should have. good to see other copies exist. better chance they will get "ripped" shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. Ebay takes 10% and Paypal is 3%. Not sure where your 22% is coming from. eBay takes 15% of game sales now. Paypal takes 3%. The other factor are LISTING FEES, and TRANSACTION FEES. eBay takes a fee for listing the item, bold, extra pics, gallery, etc.... Paypal 30 cents per transaction on top of the 3%. On average 20 - 25% of a sale is taken out. Now with Schedule 1099K this year, as I understand it, the feds are going to tax the whole thing, shipping and all. I may be out of the eBay business all together after that brick falls. I've always reported my gains. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay 30%ish on eBay sales. I'm lucky if I double up on items these days. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojay1997 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) yea. and after ebay and paypal took probably %22 of the total cost including shipping... well. the seller didnt get what he should have. good to see other copies exist. better chance they will get "ripped" shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution. then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something. Ebay takes 10% and Paypal is 3%. Not sure where your 22% is coming from. eBay takes 15% of game sales now. Paypal takes 3%. The other factor are LISTING FEES, and TRANSACTION FEES. eBay takes a fee for listing the item, bold, extra pics, gallery, etc.... Paypal 30 cents per transaction on top of the 3%. On average 20 - 25% of a sale is taken out. Now with Schedule 1099K this year, as I understand it, the feds are going to tax the whole thing, shipping and all. I may be out of the eBay business all together after that brick falls. I've always reported my gains. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay 30%ish on eBay sales. I'm lucky if I double up on items these days. AX I'm sorry, but you are just plain wrong about the fees for auctions. If you do a traditional Ebay auction starting at a penny, the first 50 insertions are waived and the only fee they charge is 9% of the final value to a maximum of $100. Paypal is 3%. Now, if you're setting up a store or selling everything as fixed price/BIN, you're correct that higher fees apply, but that is not relevant here as the guy was talking about sticking it up on Ebay and letting the market take its course. Extra photos and listing enhancements are completely optional, but even maxing everything out is only another couple bucks which is a tiny percentage of something worth a minimum of a couple hundred bucks. The Ebay tax reporting stuff for this year is completely irrelevant. You only owe taxes on gain anyway. The only people who are going to be impacted are people who sell over $20K and (note that it's not "or") 200 items in 2011. If you're selling that much stuff, you're not just an average person getting rid of excess stuff, you're a business. Regardless, you owe taxes on your gains and you're legally required to report them anyway, so this is nothing new. I get that people are hostile towards Ebay, but frankly, I'm hostile to all the flippers and members here and elsewhere who opt to sell there instead of listing stuff here and on other marketplace forums to help out their fellow collectors. If you don't want to pay the fees and take advantage of what Ebay is offering, there is always free listings here and elsewhere and Craigslist. Edited October 7, 2011 by bojay1997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder007 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Oh, oh..... I wonder when edintv will be pulling the trigger for the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Semi-related, I am kind of sick of the closed auctions that folks have here. The rules constantly change, and you can't be sure anyone is being straight about offers. They always seem to bounce offers back and forth like an auction. I wish the AA software had a little auction functionality for the posts. That would be awesome. I would say totally public, no hidden bidders or names or anons. GG would be cool, but since it doesn't email and there is no snipe I can program, I often forget about auctions there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangasinan Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Semi-related, I am kind of sick of the closed auctions that folks have here. The rules constantly change, and you can't be sure anyone is being straight about offers. They always seem to bounce offers back and forth like an auction. I wish the AA software had a little auction functionality for the posts. That would be awesome. I would say totally public, no hidden bidders or names or anons. GG would be cool, but since it doesn't email and there is no snipe I can program, I often forget about auctions there. I dont understand,are you complaining because the seller is trying to get the highest price he can for an item ??. If he keeps on getting counter offers from different parties are you suggesting he accepts the first offer even though he receives a better offer ?? .Also how do the rules change ?? The solution is simple if you think the seller is conning you then dont make an offer.. its that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Pangasinan, funny you should reply, you have the best stuff and do this format often. Even with I guy like you that I fully trust, the PM method of bidding is still troublesome. But you are not the only guy selling, there are others who are less known quantities, and sometimes the proceedings aren't always straightforward, as this thread discusses earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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