Rex Dart Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I admit I should wait until the final specs are published, and it's launch date is still a long way off, but I'm getting the impression that this console will turn out to be a half-step, much like the Dreamcast was. Much like the Dreamcast, you say? I'll take three, please. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneAgeGamer Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 For people who seem to be confused (I was at first). The Wii U is a new system, not just a touch screen controller for the Wii. All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Its stupid they really didn't show the Wii U system itself (I assume its still being designed). So this is confusing a lot of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Nintendo also showed this new controller doing a bunch of 'wii stuff' alongside regular wii devices. 'Enjoy more of the same' seems to be the nintendo theme this gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 So.. is it not Game Cube compatible? I heard rumors it would be backwards compatible with both the Wii and GC. Having three systems in one is enticing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taskmaster99 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Thats a big ass controller!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptenmaterial Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I think it was just a confusing commercial... of course there is going to be a whole new system. And this won't be the only way to control it, either. I'm sure it will be compatible with the Wiimote. Nintendo used old Wii games to demo the new controller, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneAgeGamer Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Nintendo also showed this new controller doing a bunch of 'wii stuff' alongside regular wii devices. 'Enjoy more of the same' seems to be the nintendo theme this gen. Yeah exactly. I watched the trailer for it and all I saw was Wii games. So I thought "Oh its just a controller for the Wii" and then I did more research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHufnagel Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Certainly the biggest disappointment this E3 was a complete lack of Wii news. What gives?! Is Nintendo TRYING to kill off the Wii? I thought they were supposed to be drumming up sales so they can coast between Wii and Wii U smoothly. That press conference is NOT how you take care of a system with lagging sales. The only thing keeping this E3 from being a certain one Sega participated in was "The Saturn is not our future". Also... No Pikmin 3. FOR SHAME NINTENDO, FOR SHAME!!! Hey, Nintendo is just continuing the tradition of forgetting about their last console to put all of the attention on the new one. They did it with the N64 and Gamecube too. I am surprised that they aren't delaying the new Zelda game until the WiiU comes out. But the Wii was more successful than the Gamecube, so Wii users won't get fucked over as much as the Gamecube owners were (yes, I'm still bitter over Twilight Princess ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiliteZoner Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Supposedly now the devs for the Aliens: Colonial Marines are saying the game may or may not come out for the system? Huh, did I not see footage during Nintendo's presentation? Was that footage from the PC release? Very strange. http://kotaku.com/5809556/aliens-colonial-marines-for-the-wii-u-might-happen-or-possibly-not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Nintendo also showed this new controller doing a bunch of 'wii stuff' alongside regular wii devices. 'Enjoy more of the same' seems to be the nintendo theme this gen. Yeah exactly. I watched the trailer for it and all I saw was Wii games. So I thought "Oh its just a controller for the Wii" and then I did more research. They definitely did a terrible job presenting it. My guess is that they were worried that Microsoft or Sony would announce a new console so they rushed out a trailer featuring the new controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiliteZoner Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Nintendo also showed this new controller doing a bunch of 'wii stuff' alongside regular wii devices. 'Enjoy more of the same' seems to be the nintendo theme this gen. It looks like the GC controller ports are behind the door under the DVD slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiliteZoner Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 All they showed was the controller for the Wii U. Nintendo also showed this new controller doing a bunch of 'wii stuff' alongside regular wii devices. 'Enjoy more of the same' seems to be the nintendo theme this gen. Yeah exactly. I watched the trailer for it and all I saw was Wii games. So I thought "Oh its just a controller for the Wii" and then I did more research. They definitely did a terrible job presenting it. My guess is that they were worried that Microsoft or Sony would announce a new console so they rushed out a trailer featuring the new controller. They also had footage of Battlefield 3 showing in their presentation? Of course none of the 3rd party footage was shown using the controller which lends itself to the possibility that its not actually Wii U footage at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm excited and think the controller is impressive. What I'm most disappointed about is their statement that this thing won't upscale Wii games. And I hope they just didn't bother to mention GCN compatibility because they were focusing on the most important points of the system today. And I'd love confirmation on being able to transfer our Wii DLC to this thing. And their "celebration" of the 25th anniversary of the Zelda franchise is underwhelming. At least we'll have Ocarina of Time 3D and Skyward Sword this year. I guess it'd be an improvement over 4-way splitscreen on a 13" TV, but who has those anymore? Still, the thing's got my interest. I can only imagine how much replacement controllers are going to cost for the Wii U. It sounds as if only one of these hybrid traditional controllers/tablets can be used at once. You'll use standard Wiimotes and nunchucks to fill out a 4 player match. So no 4 player gaming with individual screens or having to go out and buy 3 more of these things for 4 player gaming. So their initial lineup is going to be (by then) a bunch of old games? What are you talking about? I thought the conference was short on time, short on details, and short on game announcements, while what little info was given for the Wii U (shudder... that's really a crappy name) was very underwhelming (and no, I won't say its nothing more than 3 Gamecubes duct taped together). Everyone needs to remember that the release of the system is quite a ways away. It's not coming this fall and most feel like it won't be released until late 2012. I thought we learned a surprising amount on this new system at such an early date. A good half dozen or so 3rd party games were announced and I'm looking at screens of New Super Mario Brothers Mii for the system right now (Officially just a tech demo, but I bet it becomes a full fledged retail title). And there were several other tech demos like a HD demo of a Twilight Princess boss fight. Things like a lot of game announcements make more sense for next year's E3. We learned some basic details on the new system today, and that falls perfectly in line with how Nintendo has handled past launches like the Wii (First announced at their 2004 E3 press conference, officially unveiled at the 2005 E3 conference, controller unveiled at the 2005 Tokyo Game Show, and software largely demoed, showcased, and announced at the 2006 E3 conference). This thing isn't launching in a few months. We're quite a ways away from it and they have another E3 conference next year to provide a lot more information on things like software. So.. is it not Game Cube compatible? I heard rumors it would be backwards compatible with both the Wii and GC. Having three systems in one is enticing to me. It looks like the GC controller ports are behind the door under the DVD slot. I can't imagine there being physical GCN controller ports and memory card ports on this thing. The GameCube is ancient, forgotten, and unimportant to the vast majority of their consumers. That said, if they produce something that can play Wii software, it should be able to play GCN software with relative ease. I would think we'd be using that controller they showed off today (Has everything on it you'd need) and virtual memory cards. I wonder if they just didn't consider GCN compatibility important enough to highlight today? They didn't definitively say it's not there, so there's still hope. That door isn't very big (compare it to the disc slot), so they're certainly not hidden behind there. I imagine that's where the confirmed SD slot is and perhaps a couple of the 4 USB ports this is supposed to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Locomotive Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The controller looks interesting, but overall I'm very disappointed with this console. I was hoping that it would represent a bold step into the next generation, with performance to match, but it appears that it's just going to be a face-lift for the Wii, bringing it up to the performance level of the PS3/360. What exactly were you hoping for then? Something on the bleeding edge. Something so obviously awesome that one look at it in action and it sells itself. Performance-wise something clearly and vastly superior to the current generation. Something that puts a full stop on the current generation of hardware. Something that would immediately force Sony and MS to stop whatever it is they're currently focused on and respond or else risk losing the next generation completely. I admit I should wait until the final specs are published, and it's launch date is still a long way off, but I'm getting the impression that this console will turn out to be a half-step, much like the Dreamcast was. A lot of people were skeptical about the Wii when it was first unveiled. I remember a lot of people saying(myself included) that Nintendo had made a huge mistake and that this gimmicky, underpowered little thing was going to be the death of the company as a console maker. I seriously thought the Wii was going to be garbage until I saw a bunch of videos of it in action and how well it worked. It doesn't need to have photo realistic graphics or blinding processor speeds or anything of the sort to make it fun and I for one certainly don't want a console like that if its going to be priced into the stratosphere like the PS3 was initially. I do get what your saying though. I'm reserving absolute judgement until I see some actual demos of some first party titles showing how best the controller can be used. I think this next console is meant to be evolutionary as opposed to revolutionary, and if it work and its fun I think thats all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xg4bx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) well, i'm excited as hell for it. it's different. and what's wrong with having all the good 3rd party titles alongside nintendo's 1st party stuff, that's win-win for me. i can already picture the screen being used as a scope in a shooter (think silent scope) or as a camera/magnifying glass in a mystery-type game, and thats just off the top of my head. Edited June 8, 2011 by xg4bx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cimerians Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Wii U has all the games I'll be playing on Xbox 360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taskmaster99 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 i have to admit......after watching the video......i like it. I especially liked the part where they were playing Super mario then the dude wanted to watch baseball so Super Mario got switched to the controller. Pretty friggin cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) i have to admit......after watching the video......i like it. I especially liked the part where they were playing Super mario then the dude wanted to watch baseball so Super Mario got switched to the controller. Pretty friggin cool. I don't know, that kind of advertises to me that the controller's screen isn't important during normal gaming circumstances, since you can no longer use both screens at once. I'd rather have a handheld with TV-out for that, but it is a neat trick. Edited June 8, 2011 by Reaperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 How does Nintendo figure to get buyers in this economy? Anyway, Pikmin 3 WAS mentioned...for Wii U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockman_x_2002 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Sigh... So many confused people over this. Its a new system...with a new controller. Wii U is backwards compatible with the Wii....so you can use the Wii-motes and Board with it. They didn't have alot in the way of games to show because the system isn't finished yet. Check out just about any article and you will see pics of the new system. (it pretty much looks like a Wii....just not as boxy...but this isnt the final design from what ive seen and heard.) Its a new system...not just an add-on. Right. And the vibe I get is that it's a new console that also extends the usability of familiar controls by reusing the Wii remotes and its accessories in tandem with the tablet to produce yet new gameplay techniques. I found that interesting (example, the Wii Sports game for the Wii U that was shown in the introduction trailer). As far as the tablet itself, they said in the conference that the tablet can do nothing without the console. That leads me to believe it acts as more of a "dumb" terminal than anything, and the Wii U will act as its video feed server. The tablet probably has very little in the way of memory or processing power on its own, thus explaining why the tablet can't function in any meaningful way without the Wii U console itself (otherwise, the tablet would itself be a handheld gaming device, and be in competition with the 3DS). I figure the internals of the tablet are using an internal ARM processor, probably a fairly cheap one, that can accept and display video at high speed on the display, and manage the button presses, motion controls, and touchscreen functionality. That doesn't mean the tablet itself will be cheap. I figure the tablet by itself, if I were to wager a bet, would be right around the $70 mark by the time this system launches. As far as the system goes, I'm impressed with what I've seen at E3. I want Nintendo to deliver on their promise of good third-party support this go-around (and from their third-party teaser trailer, it seems that developers are heaping high praise on the machine). Since seeing it, I've thought of a myriad of games that could be done on this system that would be quite interesting. Immediately after seeing the zapper portion of the teaser, the first thing I thought of is a new Silent Scope from Konami that fully mimics the look and feel of the arcade original with higher-resolution graphics. I see sports games and the like garnering a great deal of improvement through the use of the tablet screen to call plays and perform other functions. RPGs would also benefit from the ability to have inventory, menus, and other such things on the tablet, while the upper screen displays nothing more than the action on screen and perhaps some status displays that are pertinent to keeping your eyes off the tablet during a battle (HP, MP, etc.). As for system price point, I figure this will be out next fall. Probably around mid-November. By that time, the hardware in the system could be comfortably sold for around $300. Add in the tablet and I figure we'll be looking for a whole package of right at $350 or $400. That may or may not include some sort of game (they did with the Wii, so it's possible since that would make it a much higher priced console that Nintendo is accustomed to releasing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Havoc 2049 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hopefully Nintendo will sell a core console without the controller, just in case the system itself malfunctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hopefully Nintendo will sell a core console without the controller, just in case the system itself malfunctions. They probably assume that if someone has a console malfunction that they're going to send it in for repairs. I'm quite sure they won't be selling a system individually. If someone wants to replace their system instead of getting it repaired, they've traditionally have gotten stuck with a new controller, new AV cable, and new AC adapter/power cable. That's how it has been for over 30 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Havoc 2049 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hopefully Nintendo will sell a core console without the controller, just in case the system itself malfunctions. They probably assume that if someone has a console malfunction that they're going to send it in for repairs. I'm quite sure they won't be selling a system individually. If someone wants to replace their system instead of getting it repaired, they've traditionally have gotten stuck with a new controller, new AV cable, and new AC adapter/power cable. That's how it has been for over 30 years now. In 30 years though, there has never been a stock controller that will be as expensive as the Wii U controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D. Head Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Two bold predictions for Wii U: - Nintendo will make lots of money - I will have lots of fun with it Of course the second one would probably be true even if it were a "relative disaster" like the Gamecube. However, I am not a complete fanboy; I am apprehensive about: - The cost for a second controller. I second the opinion above that it should cost $100 and you know the big N don't like losing any money on the hardware. - Gamecube compatibility; I'm not optimistic about that one. As it is, it won't really affect me; I have chosen not to use my Wii for GC games as I would rather spend $30 for a new Cube than wear the disc drive out of my shiny new red Wii like I did on my first one. But it would show me that they care about gamers. - DLC portability - I highly doubt it. If I cant even transfer shit between my old and new Wii, I doubt they will support it for WiiYuu. This is why I haven't bought a single game for my new Wii. That and.... - Cost of virtual console games - I want to think they will see the light and lower the cost. I bought maybe $40 worth of VC games on my first Wii at $5-8 ea. If they were $3-5, I would have spent much more. Seems to me they screwed themselves with this pricing. I think they will continue the gouge....yeah, I want to re-buy Ballon Fight for $5. Idiots. Anyhow, I will probably have one at launch. Man, I would love to try out a new Metroid game with that controller. I will probably buy my first football title in many years as well as that looks like an inspired application for the controller. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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