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Sprites and colours&luminances (can be others) apart, what of these two Rocks type you think look better designed/better looking:  

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  1. 1. Sprites and colours&luminances apart(can be others), what of these two Rocks type you think look better designed/better looking:

    • PC original looking
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    • C64 remake looking
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When I go to the gamehole and look in the game case and I see Atlus or Axsys it's my practice to pull the plastic. But I got a question: Which verison of prince of persia is your personal favorite? I prefer sands of time but reality when time flows you can't save it. I say this to remind myself to make payments, or find out which is better between featherbed and pavement. I don't know if life is game but I know I gotta keep playin it.

 

I'd always prefer a 3D view game. SO, for real, the original Prince of Persia never has been my favorite game.

At the end, if all possibilities were gathered, the A8 Version would kick the Apple 2 version to the moon and back.

 

But, I'd still prefer a "3D" version on the A8. As we know, the A8 HAS the abilities for that....

Just some reminders:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ByUh18MjUU

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZywAxfGkw

 

Emkay? You're here.

Thought you're also in bed...

Don't want you to be, but because there are other two that are :mad: ...

 

But don't worry because the picture it's a little slowly, indeed, very slowly, going on...

 

O.k. not much more done in the last two days, but because I am a little bit tired of bed, just re-started it one hour ago...

As you can see there's lots of... but an idea of it by now:

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Please post comments when it's finished ;)

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When I go to the gamehole and look in the game case and I see Atlus or Axsys it's my practice to pull the plastic. But I got a question: Which verison of prince of persia is your personal favorite? I prefer sands of time but reality when time flows you can't save it. I say this to remind myself to make payments, or find out which is better between featherbed and pavement. I don't know if life is game but I know I gotta keep playin it.

 

I'd always prefer a 3D view game. SO, for real, the original Prince of Persia never has been my favorite game.

At the end, if all possibilities were gathered, the A8 Version would kick the Apple 2 version to the moon and back.

 

But, I'd still prefer a "3D" version on the A8. As we know, the A8 HAS the abilities for that....

Just some reminders:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ByUh18MjUU

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZywAxfGkw

 

Emkay? You're here.

Thought you're also in bed...

 

Why should I ?

 

 

Don't want you to be, but because there are other two that are :mad: ...

 

But don't worry because the picture it's a little slowly, indeed, very slowly, going on...

 

O.k. not much more done in the last two days, but because I am a little bit tired of bed, just re-started it one hour ago...

As you can see there's lots of... but an idea of it by now:

post-6517-0-64350700-1319906775_thumb.png

Please post comments when it's finished ;)

 

Hm....

I wonder what's the prob with it?

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PoP original is about the offset iso view, which is all that's needed.

 

3D... that's for Abe's Oddysse - a rotating platform view on screen transitions is something that could be acheived, but isn't really relevant to PoP.

 

I'm talking about a Ego view game with the PoP story. Walls produced as in Project-M , but only in grayscale would do well. elements like torches would do well, using missiles. Enemies could be built on PM graphics (double width with some single width enhancements (in the distant just single width) Also the weapon/hand(s) of the protagonist. All in up to 25fps....

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As it seems, the "coder" is not able to make at least a simple sprite routine, and we will not even see a slight part of the game.

How should any project find a goal?

Things really get poor.

Sometimes I'm laughing loud making my wife is asking me why ;) Seing the discussions always with some wannabe coders nifting their argumentations, and at the end there is nothing but empty space.

 

Hey wannabees. Let it be a discussion or do something. But, do not promise any garbage to people, you cannot handle. Thanks!

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As it seems, the "coder" is not able to make at least a simple sprite routine, and we will not even see a slight part of the game.

How should any project find a goal?

Things really get poor.

Sometimes I'm laughing loud making my wife is asking me why ;) Seing the discussions always with some wannabe coders nifting their argumentations, and at the end there is nothing but empty space.

 

Hey wannabees. Let it be a discussion or do something. But, do not promise any garbage to people, you cannot handle. Thanks!

 

Emkay I wasn't saying that you'd better be in bed but probably you should better be in bed.

Sadly people have at least, the right to be ill.

Like the other two... Of course, one in each bed ;)

Better because you wouldn't were here posting those stupid things...

 

If you were also ill then you wouldn't have nothing more to show... Or probably you also don't have nothing to show, as always.

Are you using something? Sometimes it seems you are.

 

How many Projects are done in days? Even just some small things?

Even if something more is shown you'll say it wouldn't be a proof of a real game and just a demo.

 

And you also enter in offense.

Now I would like to ear what your partner have to say... I think he can understand my bad English but he better understand you're good and directly offense!

 

You've just decreased many, many points in my consideration...

Probably your wife may better take you into a doctor!

 

That's all!...

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The biggest problem with g2f is it causes threads like this. :P

 

G2F isn't that bad. As the picture below is just a simple import. Not much to do here to finish the picture

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As long as using the low standard features, everything is fine.

Things just go crazy when mixing resolutions.

 

No, there isn't much more to do there... And we have to believe it is a really and sad true because it's from someone that knows A8 capabilities...

And G2F wouldn't help much... because you have to do things by Hand, there's no 'Automatic' and you have to waste your time.

But always better wasting the time doing something and not be here expecting others do or saying things about others capabilities!

 

It's not a 100% conversion but who's said the C64 is (it isn't because they also couldn't and wouldn't port exactly Apple2) and it still needs the Rocks dither on Bottom:

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(It also doesn't have to be for all likes ;) but everyone can post their comments. Thanks.)

 

 

 

 

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-> Apple2:

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-> C64:

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As it seems, the "coder" is not able to make at least a simple sprite routine, and we will not even see a slight part of the game.

How should any project find a goal?

Things really get poor.

Sometimes I'm laughing loud making my wife is asking me why ;) Seing the discussions always with some wannabe coders nifting their argumentations, and at the end there is nothing but empty space.

 

Hey wannabees. Let it be a discussion or do something. But, do not promise any garbage to people, you cannot handle. Thanks!

 

Emkay I wasn't saying that you'd better be in bed but probably you should better be in bed.

Sadly people have at least, the right to be ill.

Like the other two... Of course, one in each bed ;)

Better because you wouldn't were here posting those stupid things...

 

Stupid things?

I'm more laughing when reading some lame excuses....

This Formatwar Forum is really a big joke...

 

http://formatwar.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=83&start=190

 

Also, I wouldn't build "my thoughts" on "false aimed thoughts of others". The Direction will get even more false.

 

 

 

If you were also ill then you wouldn't have nothing more to show... Or probably you also don't have nothing to show, as always.

Are you using something? Sometimes it seems you are.

 

Don't turn the truth.

It's just one picture in the thread showing 100% . Which is done by ...exactly.... me

 

 

How many Projects are done in days? Even just some small things?

Even if something more is shown you'll say it wouldn't be a proof of a real game and just a demo.

 

 

In which way could a simple rotation of screenmemory demonstrate a game?

Or, a simple paste routine resemble a full working softwaresprite?

 

IF someone is saying, "this is possible", he simply should be able to create a demonstration that scales to the final product.

I've done this before, and gave clear hints..

And you also enter in offense.

Now I would like to ear what your partner have to say... I think he can understand my bad English but he better understand you're good and directly offense!

 

There is a slight difference between truth and offense.

 

 

You've just decreased many, many points in my consideration...

Probably your wife may better take you into a doctor!

 

That's all!...

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It's not a 100% conversion but who's said the C64 is (it isn't because they also couldn't and wouldn't port exactly Apple2) and it still needs the Rocks dither on Bottom:

post-6517-0-05747400-1319939306_thumb.png

(It also doesn't have to be for all likes ;) but everyone can post their comments. Thanks.)

 

 

 

This one simply isn't finished. That's what I'm writing about. This has nothing to do with "likes".

 

It's finished, when the possible is reached.

So, why haven't you reached the possible?

 

Wrong imagination?

Bugware use?

Or simply no experience, and achievement?

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As it seems, the "coder" is not able to make at least a simple sprite routine, and we will not even see a slight part of the game.

How should any project find a goal?

Things really get poor.

Sometimes I'm laughing loud making my wife is asking me why ;) Seing the discussions always with some wannabe coders nifting their argumentations, and at the end there is nothing but empty space.

 

Hey wannabees. Let it be a discussion or do something. But, do not promise any garbage to people, you cannot handle. Thanks!

 

Emkay I wasn't saying that you'd better be in bed but probably you should better be in bed.

Sadly people have at least, the right to be ill.

Like the other two... Of course, one in each bed ;)

Better because you wouldn't were here posting those stupid things...

 

Stupid things?

I'm more laughing when reading some lame excuses....

This Formatwar Forum is really a big joke...

 

http://formatwar.net...&t=83&start=190

 

Also, I wouldn't build "my thoughts" on "false aimed thoughts of others". The Direction will get even more false.

 

 

 

If you were also ill then you wouldn't have nothing more to show... Or probably you also don't have nothing to show, as always.

Are you using something? Sometimes it seems you are.

 

Don't turn the truth.

It's just one picture in the thread showing 100% . Which is done by ...exactly.... me

 

 

How many Projects are done in days? Even just some small things?

Even if something more is shown you'll say it wouldn't be a proof of a real game and just a demo.

 

 

In which way could a simple rotation of screenmemory demonstrate a game?

Or, a simple paste routine resemble a full working softwaresprite?

 

IF someone is saying, "this is possible", he simply should be able to create a demonstration that scales to the final product.

I've done this before, and gave clear hints..

And you also enter in offense.

Now I would like to ear what your partner have to say... I think he can understand my bad English but he better understand you're good and directly offense!

 

There is a slight difference between truth and offense.

 

 

You've just decreased many, many points in my consideration...

Probably your wife may better take you into a doctor!

 

That's all!...

 

I thought and if I am right you don't bother nor read those 'reaction' Forums...

 

What have you shown here in all the games you say it were only possible if in the way you say?

 

You have to wait because people have the right to have their lifes and also, beeing in bed for some days.

(At least it seems that most of 'more normal' people aren't looking to their Monitors and laughing about others work)

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You have to wait because people have the right to have their lifes and also, beeing in bed for some days.

(At least it seems that most of 'more normal' people aren't looking to their Monitors and laughing about others work)

 

???

well, I know my english isn't the best, but YOU really should have some lessons.

 

I'm not laughing at other's work. I'm laughing at what they write, when the writing is just a lame excuse or a "hidden attack of some helpless person".

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It's not a 100% conversion but who's said the C64 is (it isn't because they also couldn't and wouldn't port exactly Apple2) and it still needs the Rocks dither on Bottom:

post-6517-0-05747400-1319939306_thumb.png

(It also doesn't have to be for all likes ;) but everyone can post their comments. Thanks.)

 

 

 

This one simply isn't finished. That's what I'm writing about. This has nothing to do with "likes".

 

It's finished, when the possible is reached.

So, why haven't you reached the possible?

 

Wrong imagination?

Bugware use?

Or simply no experience, and achievement?

 

The possible is what everyone can do or what he likes...

 

 

And your 'Possible' it's always a 'vague concept' that we never seen any 'Proof of concept' from you.

For a soo good knowing Man of A8 possibilities you shouldn't blame about G2F and RMT...

You can use your knowledges and build things yourself.

 

There isn't nothing more or less in knowledge for a G2F picture for people that use G2F and don't blame about it.

I know what I know and use what I have.

I would like to have better G2F in some ways, but I cannot change it... If I hadn't G2F I wouldn't ever get nor learn most of the things I know about A8.

These things seems even more than yours... At least I try even using those bad Programs you're always say that they don't have what you want or what are the A8 capabilities (most of them we only listen in your always 'blah, blah,...').

It seems that it's from you that we are really expecting 'Proof of concepts'. Not from me or others that are honest in their knowledges and don't blçame others to use their free-time to offer others things to use/play on A8 and receives ofenses from guys like you.

 

Is it really a surprise why you, most of the times, are quoted and the center of talking in other Forums?

But I think you really like ... It gives you the strange pleasure to think you're really important when you are probably beeing... (you can complete the sentence if you want)

( Is it :lol: / :rolling: that you are doing right now in front of the Monitor? :ponder: It is really :sad: beeing like this :( )

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well, I know my english isn't the best, but YOU really should have some lessons.

 

I'm not laughing at other's work. I'm laughing at what they write, when the writing is just a lame excuse or a "hidden attack of some helpless person".

 

 

No I shoudn't have some English lessons.

I am waiting that Goongle Translate really get a real and right translation.

I prefer to be here waiting for that... Google should do it because I want, I need,... in the same way as you want others to make those G2F,... the way you want!

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The possible is what everyone can do or what he likes...

 

 

So you cannot do even one G2F picture? So you never reach the limits of the tool. So you even don't have the slightes clues of what you're doing?

 

 

And your 'Possible' it's always a 'vague concept' that we never seen any 'Proof of concept' from you.

For a soo good knowing Man of A8 possibilities you shouldn't blame about G2F and RMT...

You can use your knowledges and build things yourself.

 

But I'm not a coder. It would simply take too long to create such stuff.

Vice Versa, there are people swimming in the clean water, but not even able to drink something.... (not sure, you understand the proverb)

 

 

There isn't nothing more or less in knowledge for a G2F picture for people that use G2F and don't blame about it.

 

So everything is fine, so finish the picture... ;)

 

I know what I know and use what I have.

 

 

...

I would like to have better G2F in some ways, but I cannot change it... If I hadn't G2F I wouldn't ever get nor learn most of the things I know about A8.

These things seems even more than yours... At least I try even using those bad Programs you're always say that they don't have what you want or what are the A8 capabilities (most of them we only listen in your always 'blah, blah,...').

It seems that it's from you that we are really expecting 'Proof of concepts'. Not from me or others that are honest in their knowledges and don't blçame others to use their free-time to offer others things to use/play on A8 and receives ofenses from guys like you.

 

Is it really a surprise why you, most of the times, are quoted and the center of talking in other Forums?

 

Being named nerd by nerds isn't really an accuse. ;)

 

But I think you really like ... It gives you the strange pleasure to think you're really important when you are probably beeing... (you can complete the sentence if you want)

( Is it :lol: / :rolling: that you are doing right now in front of the Monitor? :ponder: It is really :sad: beeing like this :( )

 

Indeed. I must be somehow important to them. But I'm happy, it's not important for real life ;)

 

 

Btw: You finish the picture, or shall I do?

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???

well, I know my english isn't the best, but YOU really should have some lessons.

 

I'm not laughing at other's work. I'm laughing at what they write, when the writing is just a lame excuse or a "hidden attack of some helpless person".

 

 

No I shoudn't have some English lessons.

I am waiting that Goongle Translate really get a real and right translation.

I prefer to be here waiting for that... Google should do it because I want, I need,... in the same way as you want others to make those G2F,... the way you want!

Now that's funny :)

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???

well, I know my english isn't the best, but YOU really should have some lessons.

 

I'm not laughing at other's work. I'm laughing at what they write, when the writing is just a lame excuse or a "hidden attack of some helpless person".

 

 

No I shoudn't have some English lessons.

I am waiting that Goongle Translate really get a real and right translation.

I prefer to be here waiting for that... Google should do it because I want, I need,... in the same way as you want others to make those G2F,... the way you want!

Now that's funny :)

 

Speaking of funny Stephen, "Supreme envious snake" sounds like a bad Google tranlation! :P

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I know I'm really jumping in late in the thread, maybe it's been mentioned before. After skimming through a lot of the thread and looking at the poll and peoples ideas and responses as much as possible, it seems to me people are trying to "keep up with the Jones's." Why try and make the game look as close as possible to some other version. Why not do the game on the Atari to the Atari's strengths and abilities and all it's graphic mode choices, and make a Prince of Persia that only the Atari can do. It's own very unique take on the game. Make the fans of the other computer versions envious of the Atari version! And think out of the box instead of trying to copy the box as close as possible. Just my two cents.

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I know I'm really jumping in late in the thread, maybe it's been mentioned before. After skimming through a lot of the thread and looking at the poll and peoples ideas and responses as much as possible, it seems to me people are trying to "keep up with the Jones's." Why try and make the game look as close as possible to some other version. Why not do the game on the Atari to the Atari's strengths and abilities and all it's graphic mode choices, and make a Prince of Persia that only the Atari can do. It's own very unique take on the game. Make the fans of the other computer versions envious of the Atari version! And think out of the box instead of trying to copy the box as close as possible. Just my two cents.

 

You have to give the credit to the ones that do a great job, C64 or any other computers coders...

PoP from C64 it's possible on A8 and will always need the A8 capabilities...

 

MrSid C64 coder gets the majour stuff from the original Apple2 Mechner...

We get original Apple2 stuff with the PoP C64 help with MrSid kindly offers us all with a very interesting and friendly Blog:http://popc64.blogspot.com/

(always trying to have all the guys involved authorization)

 

C64 would never get it from zero, he needs to study the original Apple2 coding.

We came later and would have to study Apple2 but also C64...

If we suceed probably other 8bit would study Apple2, C64, A8,... and so on...

 

 

I am waiting UWOL is finish and I cannot force the coder if he doesn't have time but at least I have all the Z80 MSX, ZX and CPC but also the C64 version (done by another portuguese guy) and most of all the owners of the copyright agreement, the spanish guys called Mojon Twins.

 

 

And the same I have from Frank Gasking coder of C64 Sub-Hunter game...

 

 

Also, there was some time ago a discussion like this (without some of this... A8) on Lemon64 about porting Yoomp into C64.

Our A8 coder sign there and gaves them all the help, they didn't get anything but he didn't and I hope someone here don't start again with the 'C64 can't get Yoomp' talking...

But it's it. We are all people that are doing things that our friends, our wifes, our kids don't understand why...

Shame is that some people gets off because they can't live with some stupid comments and some offenses!...

 

 

I don't have promises and nor anyone here... There's no signing contract to get PoP into A8 nor any other game.

This no job with time tables to finish.

Sheddy spent 10years to get Space Harrier...

Did you ever thought he will end with it?

And on that 10years you had other new games to play, right?

 

Soo, expect new games coming in the same way as anyyone involved in A8 new stuff want to finish what they have in Hands as soon as possible...

No pressing...

 

 

If the A8 PoP coder wants to stop, or wants to code other game?

Just knowing that are someone(s) trying to get something in PoP or any other agme isn't sufficient?

:thumbsup:

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I know I'm really jumping in late in the thread, maybe it's been mentioned before. After skimming through a lot of the thread and looking at the poll and peoples ideas and responses as much as possible, it seems to me people are trying to "keep up with the Jones's." Why try and make the game look as close as possible to some other version. Why not do the game on the Atari to the Atari's strengths and abilities and all it's graphic mode choices, and make a Prince of Persia that only the Atari can do. It's own very unique take on the game. Make the fans of the other computer versions envious of the Atari version! And think out of the box instead of trying to copy the box as close as possible. Just my two cents.

 

A game only for A8 ?

 

Look at this:

 

It's a G2F generate screen. Imagine the animating of the walls only, for depth movement. Having the Gr.9 always in some "angle look" and forming the PMg as good as possible. The green bar is the 4th "free" player ... red bars indicade the Missiles.

 

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