PacManPlus Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi Guys: I was hoping to be much farther along with this than I was (read: finished) but got stuck on one or two things. Here is the WIP for Scramble for the 7800. I am about half-way through with it. I have four major implementations left: - shooting and bombing (and the results of those) - making rockets take off - add UFO and meteor enemies - sound I have two questions for you guys: 1. For the people who have played this extensively, how does the difficulty ramp up once you destroy the base? 2. I remember when I played this, I always used to hit the 'bomb' and 'laser' buttons simultaneously. Do I need to separate the two here? Or can I use one button for both (i.e. more controller compatibility)? Thanks, Bob Scramble.A78 Scramble.bin ScrambleP.A78 ScrambleP.bin 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Propane13 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi Bob! Looks amazing, as usual. Plus, I am impressed by the speed of getting this one out. I haven't tried it yet, but I imagine that if you have collision detection done, that would have been very difficult to implement. For your questions, re: joystick button, would it be possible to have an option for both? I've played versions of Xevious where bomb/shoot are tied together, and ones where they're not-- I think sometimes you can set it on the main menu or difficulty switch. I think if it's an on-screen option, it'll give people the ability to play the way they're most comfortable. My hat is off to you, again. :-D -John Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You are the very best bob!!! Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduecrum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Can I be first on the pre-order list? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Bob, incredible and amazing as always. Thank you for sharing it with the communuity. I cannot answer question 1. For question 2, in harmony with a purer arcade experience I recommend the buttons separate. However, perhaps an A-B switch feature is in order here. If the switch is on the A-side buttons are independent, if it is on the B-side then either button fires both weapons. Edited January 1, 2012 by Trebor Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi Bob I am on hollidays at the moment.Sorry for the late comments,but my internet connection is really bad,here in thailand. Great work Bob,as used.You are the best.Sure,you can count me in for a cart. Happy new year 2012 and many more games by you Walter Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorfcadet Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 To progress into the later difficulties it becomes vital to time your bombs seperately from your guns. It isn't a deal breaker for me, but maybe a one/two button option on the title screen similar to the way a typical 7800 game lets you choose difficulty or number of players. Either way put me down for one! I can't wait to advance into the scramble system again. You are a freaking mazing! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Oh man, this looks awesome. I played plenty of Scramble as a kid growing up (we had the cocktail table and upright frequently) and love it to this day. Regarding the missiles and bombs, yeah, I agree it would be nice to have a choice to have them linked or separated for the 7800 version. Difficulty DOES ramp up big time after you destroy the base. Screen comes at you faster and more rockets launch up for sure. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) *Curious if this also lays groundwork for Super Cobra * Interestingly, Scramble was ported to the Vectex, but I do not believe any of the other consoles pre-crash (C64 though - granted not a console). However, Super Cobra saw an extensive release on nearly every platform, and I remember the numerous ads in comic books for the game. If anyone with a little more knowledge or insight could perhaps add to the thought or share, is Super Huey to Scramble, what Galaga is to Galaxian? Sorry Bob, not meaning to derail this thread. When I first saw your post I was thinking this was the game which was extensively released to all the other platforms, and then realized that it was not. It triggered the plethora of thoughts and ideas above. Regardless, awesome and fantastic work. It is greatly appreciated. Edited January 1, 2012 by Trebor Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Looks GREAT PacManPlus !!! Your games never cease to amaze me! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'd suggest both options. Maybe some system could be devised for 1-button setup. e.g. hold button gives firing, quick press/release gives bomb. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BitMan Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This looks utterly fantastic! I have always loved Scramble!!! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edweird13 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 wow Bob comes through again. Yes the bomb and fire need to be seperate. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 If anyone with a little more knowledge or insight could perhaps add to the thought or share, is Super Huey to Scramble, what Galaga is to Galaxian? Scramble - Super Cobra - Gradius - Life Force - Gradius II etc... 2. I remember when I played this, I always used to hit the 'bomb' and 'laser' buttons simultaneously. Do I need to separate the two here? Or can I use one button for both (i.e. more controller compatibility)? As others suggested, make it an option to use one or two button play with the default being two buttons. I fear that you'll be scorned for releasing Scramble for use with one button only by purists and we've seen how Super Cobra on the 2600 panned out. I was just playing a Scramble arcade cabinet last night and on the fireball stages I like to take a break and just drop bombs to rest my fingers. With a one button only option, you may find that firing missiles during this stage may be distracting to players. I'll fire this up in emulation later. As usual - put me in on the pre-order list! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Great start to a classic game! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatNJ Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 If a pre-order starts add me Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bennybingo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Please add me to the pre-order list! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Very nice. I'll want one once it's ready. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 If there is a pre-order list, then please add me also. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thursday83 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You are the man, again, Bob. Please put me down for a cart. 2 button separation is always better IMO. Thanks, Thursday83 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Awesome! Great way to start the New Year! Thank you! And do add me to the cart list when you have it ready! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks for the encouragement guys, and the kind words. Ok, selectable it is. I will use the difficulty switch to go between one and two-button joysticks. As far as the difficulty ramp goes, so it's just the frequency of the rockets launching (and the scrolling somewhat quicker) that changes? Thanks, Bob P.S. - I still need to get more eproms and cart cases to be able to make carts here just yet (especially cart cases). I figure I have time because I still have a bit of work to do on this. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bennybingo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 P.S. - I still need to get more eproms and cart cases to be able to make carts here just yet (especially cart cases). I figure I have time because I still have a bit of work to do on this. I have some Pole Position II carts if it would help! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Incredible Bob strikes again Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryH917 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Great job as always Bob! Count me in for a cart when it's finished... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/192136-happy-new-year-scramble-for-the-7800/#findComment-2435367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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