JacobZu7zu7 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) 2600 Knockout Game 9: + 2600 HIGH SCORE CHALLENGE 2012 Our ninth HSC + Elimination round is Ataris MOON PATROL SETTING: GAME 1 / M1P (DEFAULT GAME) DIFFICULTY: A or B / B (NO CHANGES TO RIGHT DIFFICULTY!) LEFT DIFFICULTY: A (Turn off Moon Patrol Music Theme) / B (Turn on the music) DEADLINE TO PLAY: This round has now begun, it will run a week or until Sunday, March 4th 11:59PM EST (EASTERN TIME) Play with Atari 2600 Console, or Emulation. Any joystick or keyboard is fine! Pics are encoraged here, however I WILL accept a no pic score. Anyone can jump in and play for a High Score and Ranking, if they like... Every score will be counted for the High Score Challenge also, even if you're not entered in the Winter 2600 Knockout. Everyone starts each game with a score of ZERO, one goal is to get above 0... or get a high score, if you don't you will be eliminated and the lowest score earned of the active KO players, is safe! A KING status will be awarded at the end of every round winner, as well as rankings and points. First place gets +15 points! From there on, 1+ less... For the K.O., you need not win, just not finish LAST! Let the battle begin... THIS GAME IS ALSO OPEN FOR HIGH SCORE CLUB POINTS AND RANKING! Red font indicates out of the knockout but playing for ranking and score. Knockout players & High Score Challengers 15+ - 56,760 - Gorfy 1st 14+ - 54,980 - oyamafamily 2nd 13+ - 50,380 - Jifremok 3rd 12+ - 37,560 - JacobZu7zu7 4th 11+ - 36,180 - cparsley 5th 10+ - 35,920 - Deteacher 6th 09+ - 35,700 - Vocelli 7th 08+ - 34,760 - toymailman 8th 07+ - 26,000 - Scrabbler15 9th 06+ - 25,160 - DT Kofoed 10th 05+ - 24,300 - Fallout_002 11th 04+ - 23,320 - classicgamer_27330 12th 03+ - 21,530 - LarcenTyler 13th 02+ - 10,450 - Cortat G 14th 01+ - 7,540 - jblenkle Rankings after 8 rounds. Rank/Points/Player 1 (115) toymailman 2 (104) oyamafamily 2 (104) Deteacher 4 (95) Gorfy 5 (85) Vocelli 6 (78) Jifremok 7 (77) JacobZu7zu7 8 (76) Cortat G 9 (74) Scrabbler15 10 (67) cparsley 11 (64) DT Kofoed 12 (58) classicgamer_27330 13 (54) Zoyx 14 (44) Fallout_002 15 (43) LarcenTyler 16 (39) roadrunner 17 (35) bigbee99 18 (17) Stan 19 (17) Metal Jesus 20 (15) pis 21 (12) jblenkle 22 (7) Mister VCS 23 (5) HatNJ 24 (0) phaxda Eliminated players 1st round: H.E.R.O. - phaxda 2nd round: Raft Rider - Metal Jesus 3rd round: Yars' Revenge - pis 4th round: Kool-Aid Man - HatNJ 5th round: River Raid - Stan 6th round: Rampage - bigbee99 7th round: Pole Position - roadrunner 8th round: Adventures of Tron - Zoyx King players 1st round: H.E.R.O - oyamafamily 2nd round: Raft Rider - oyamafamily/Deteacher/toymailman/Cortat G/DT Kofoed/Scrabbler15 3rd round: Yars' Revenge - Zoyx/oyamafamily/Gorfy/Cortat G/toymailman/DT Kofoed 4th round: Kool-Aid Man - toymailman 5th round: River Raid - Jifremok 6th round: Rampage - Jifremok/Cortat G/Gorfy/oyamafamily/DT Kofoed/Deteacher 7th round: Pole Position - Deteacher/Gorfy/toymailman 8th round: Adventures of Tron - cparsley Someone will be eliminated from K.O. every Monday at 12:00AM EST) (Anyone without a score by the deadline, will be eliminated!) LarcenTyler has been chosen out of the hat to select Round 10. He picked B-5 which is wild card choice, leading us to Kung Fu Master DT Kofoed's game. "B-5" is X checked off the game list" A - X/2/3/4/X B - 1/2/3/X/X C - 1/2/X/4/X D - 1/2/3/X/5 E - X/X/3/X/5 Game List: Games played on Default, unless a setting is selected by K.O. player. Frogger (Diff. A) H.E.R.O Buck Rogers Crazy Climber Pressure Cooker Moon Patrol Rampage Escape from the Mindmaster Kaboom! Enduro Laser Gates Seaquest Astroblast Reactor Raft Rider Kung-Fu Master Adventures of Tron Ms. Pacman Kool-Aid Man Pole Position Yars Revenge (6B) River Raid Wild Card A Wild Card B Wild Card C Moon Patrol (1983) (Atari).a26 Moon Patrol (1983) (Atari) (PAL) !.a26 Edited March 5, 2012 by JacobZu7zu7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I've got a question about the difficulty settings as I never was a big 2600 player back in the day. I know the 2600 had an A/B switch and the instructions above for this game state the settings should be set to B/B... Can someone explain what exactly the B/B is? I've been using Cyberstella to play and can't find any real clear cut mention of A or B switches. I did press F1, however, and the game scrolled through 1p & 2p E M H which I take to be Easy, Medium and Hard. According to the Stella docs, F1 is Game Select....F5 apparently sets "Left Player Difficulty B" - F7 sets Right Player to B...do I want to set both of those to B? When I press those, there is absolutely no indication anything has changed. Or can someone recommend a better 2600 emulator? Edited February 27, 2012 by jblenkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbler15 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 16,180 Looks like I get to set the early pace... . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbler15 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I've got a question about the difficulty settings as I never was a big 2600 player back in the day. I know the 2600 had an A/B switch and the instructions above for this game state the settings should be set to B/B... Can someone explain what exactly the B/B is? I've been using Cyberstella to play and can't find any real clear cut mention of A or B switches. I did press F1, however, and the game scrolled through 1p & 2p E M H which I take to be Easy, Medium and Hard. According to the Stella docs, F1 is Game Select....F5 apparently sets "Left Player Difficulty B" - F7 sets Right Player to B...do I want to set both of those to B? When I press those, there is absolutely no indication anything has changed. Or can someone recommend a better 2600 emulator? The Stella I use is here: "http://stella.source...t/downloads.php" It gives clear indication on the screen when the A/B is changed using the function keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vocelli Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Ok... this is the part where I predict what the low score will be. But first, those Tron scores were outstanding! 90K WOW! That game I consider a hidden gem. I was slightly off in my low score prediction (52K) and I thought I might have predicted high. If you take out the zero score, only 4 players scored lower than my predicted low score. 51,600 - Fallout_002 11th 41,900 - Jifremok 12th 37,800 - DT Kofoed 13th 33,200 - Cortat G 14th 0- Zoyx But those 4 scores were much lower than I thought they would be. Needless to say, we are getting down to some good players. The next game... Moon Patrol. It will be very much like Tron. Where as if you put in the time and memorize the patterns, it is a great game but takes training. I always marveled at the arcade at people who played this game well. It took very fast reflexes and time to master. So, once again, one day of playing will not give you a good score. As a kid I made it thru the whole first level 3-4 times but getting thru level 2 was very hard. So I believe the low score will be 26K. That means you make it to the last section in Level 1 but fail to make it to level 2. Some people will do very well while others will get frustrated on Level one and we might even see a very low final score (15K). But if you give the game some time it is a good challenging one. My first submission. Vocelli: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Can someone explain what exactly the B/B is? I've been using Cyberstella to play and can't find any real clear cut mention of A or B switches. I did press F1, however, and the game scrolled through 1p & 2p E M H which I take to be Easy, Medium and Hard. According to the Stella docs, F1 is Game Select....F5 apparently sets "Left Player Difficulty B" - F7 sets Right Player to B...do I want to set both of those to B? When I press those, there is absolutely no indication anything has changed. Or can someone recommend a better 2600 emulator? Stella is currently at version 3.5.5, soon to be 3.6, and probably 4.0 before the year is out. You're using version 1.2 or so, which is absolutely ancient. Download the latest version as mentioned above. Also, someone recently pointed out there's an error in the documentation. The F5/F6 keys set A/B difficulty, not B/A as the documentation states. This will be updated for the next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Tyler Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 7,100 Quick entry. By the way, the left difficulty switch should be player's choice, since it toggles the background music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorfy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Thanks for choosing this, Larcen. I never played it before, but I'm already hooked. Score: 21,790 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yeah, thanks...I updated to the latest version. I have so many frickin' emulators installed on my computer...56 at last count... I miss updating some of them on occasion... Can someone explain what exactly the B/B is? I've been using Cyberstella to play and can't find any real clear cut mention of A or B switches. I did press F1, however, and the game scrolled through 1p & 2p E M H which I take to be Easy, Medium and Hard. According to the Stella docs, F1 is Game Select....F5 apparently sets "Left Player Difficulty B" - F7 sets Right Player to B...do I want to set both of those to B? When I press those, there is absolutely no indication anything has changed. Or can someone recommend a better 2600 emulator? Stella is currently at version 3.5.5, soon to be 3.6, and probably 4.0 before the year is out. You're using version 1.2 or so, which is absolutely ancient. Download the latest version as mentioned above. Also, someone recently pointed out there's an error in the documentation. The F5/F6 keys set A/B difficulty, not B/A as the documentation states. This will be updated for the next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Still not clear on: SETTING: GAME 1 (DEFAULT GAME) DIFFICULTY: B/B (NO CHANGES) Why the B/B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HatNJ Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Means both Right and left difficulty switches are to be set to B usually B is default for most games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Still not clear on: SETTING: GAME 1 (DEFAULT GAME) DIFFICULTY: B/B (NO CHANGES) Why the B/B? B/B is the default for almost all ROMs in Stella. Normally, you never have to touch the difficulty keys at all. The only time that Stella defaults to A is for certain (esoteric) ROMs that only work in that mode. But in that case as well, you don't normally have to worry about it. Just start the ROM and play as-is. Stella contains an internal database of over 3000 ROM properties. So I would say 99.999% of the time, you never have to change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 OK, I appreciate your help...I am educated now!!! Still not clear on: SETTING: GAME 1 (DEFAULT GAME) DIFFICULTY: B/B (NO CHANGES) Why the B/B? B/B is the default for almost all ROMs in Stella. Normally, you never have to touch the difficulty keys at all. The only time that Stella defaults to A is for certain (esoteric) ROMs that only work in that mode. But in that case as well, you don't normally have to worry about it. Just start the ROM and play as-is. Stella contains an internal database of over 3000 ROM properties. So I would say 99.999% of the time, you never have to change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cparsley Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 10,150 first crack... not too good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyamafamily Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Read 2600 Moon Patrol Manual. According to this Manual, both Difficulty Switches have diffferent effects to this game. LEFT DIFFICULTY: A (Turn off Moon Patrol Music Theme) / B (Turn on the music). RIGHT DIFFICULTY: A (2 buggy speeds - slow and fast) / B (3 buggy speeds - slow, medium and fast). Default game mode is MEDIUM / ONE PLAYER (displayed as "M 1P" - NO TEDDY BEAR near the score!) We played Moon Patrol at the beginning of Season 7! Edited February 27, 2012 by oyamafamily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cparsley Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Unofficial Leaderboard (as of this post) Gorfy - 21,790 Scrabbler15 - 16,180 Vocelli - 15,220 cparsley - 10,150 LarcenTyler - 7,100 Currently Non Posted scores Oyamafamily Deteacher toymailman JacobZu7 classicgamer_27330 Fallout_002 Jifremok DT Kofoed Cortat G Spellings taken from Jacob's Tron final score posting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicgamer_27330 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 5300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyamafamily Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 26,980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Moon Patrol - 6,860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicgamer_27330 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 9,000 just feels like something is missing playing without music, when the game has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout_002 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 24,300 I agree that the Left Difficulty switch should be each player's choice as its sole function is to turn the music on or off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorfy Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 27,780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbler15 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 18,200 The A/B music debate is interesting. I always play games with the music off when it is an option (especially Gamecube and Wii skateboarding/snowboarding games), I want to hear every grind and scrape and whoosh. And I don't want the music to distract me from the task at hand. On the other hand, my son always wants the music on when he plays. I guess whatever works. It makes no difference to me whether Moon Patrol for this Knockout Round is allowed to be played with the music on. I'll still have it off, because that's how I normally play. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicgamer_27330 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 well the music thing is coming from a music major in college. 12380 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabbler15 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 well the music thing is coming from a music major in college. 12380 I considered being a music major when I went to college. In the end, I majored in math and then switched to computer science. Maybe that's why I play with beeps and blips, rather than b-flats and bass clefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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