+cmart604 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yah, I like the green with black score screens like dZ mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I like the deep purple screen the most. It is easy to look at and a good background for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Tweaking the Handball screen design. My brain is too tired for programming today, so I am fooling around with graphics and colors. Here are some different ideas for the Handball screen. What do you think? Do you like any of them? Hate any of them? Let me know.... 1. Deep Purple: 2. Purple and Black: 3. Plain Black: 4. Dark Green: 5. Color Squares accident (it was an accident, but it looks kind of interesting - maybe I could use colored square to make a more colorful background...) I vote 1 absolutely not 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ok, I got two votes for the green and black version, 2 votes for the purple version, and 1 vote against the purple version. (Version 5 wasn't really a potential version - it was a just a reminder that I could use the "colored squares mode" to get some more colors on the screen. Someday I'll mock this up so it is easier to visualize...) In any case, I am going to go with the green and black version for now... Catsfolly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Air Hockey (WIP) This game still has some serious collision code "issues", but this is what it looks like today... (The real movement is smoother than the gif file version...) Catsfolly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Air hockey looks like fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Air Hockey (WIP) This game still has some serious collision code "issues", but this is what it looks like today... (The real movement is smoother than the gif file version...) Catsfolly I LOVE IT! Fantastic physics simulation! I can't wait to play it. -dZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Pixels Gone Bad! This is my best bug so far (in this game...). Currently, I am trying to add my work-in-progress colored squares Bresenham-Dz circular type explosions to the "Tennis in Space" game. Occasionally, when I try to stop the scrolling and start the explosion, the scrolling meteors, instead of freezing in place, start shooting across the screen at rocket speed, totally messing up my animations. But it does look kind of cool. Mixing colored squares and regular graphics definitely has potential.... Catsfolly Edited June 11, 2012 by catsfolly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Looks cool! I guess the only problem with mixing Color Square and regular modes is if your background cards have detailed graphics. In such cases, the unused Color Square squares will be cleared, distorting the overall image. However, in your case, I don't think there's any danger in that, for the background is just a star-field. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Looks cool! I guess the only problem with mixing Color Square and regular modes is if your background cards have detailed graphics. In such cases, the unused Color Square squares will be cleared, distorting the overall image. However, in your case, I don't think there's any danger in that, for the background is just a star-field. -dZ. Yeah, Joe's color square routines assume that all the background cards are set to color square mode. I first changed his code to automatically set the "color square" bits, but this caused random color square "bits" to be set on the fringes of my circle. Now I set the card to 4 black pixels if it is not already a color square card. As you said, I can get away with this in a star field game. Here is the latest version of the explosion, without the bugs... Catsfolly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Mueller Jr Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Looks great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Looks cool! I guess the only problem with mixing Color Square and regular modes is if your background cards have detailed graphics. In such cases, the unused Color Square squares will be cleared, distorting the overall image. However, in your case, I don't think there's any danger in that, for the background is just a star-field. -dZ. Yeah, Joe's color square routines assume that all the background cards are set to color square mode. I first changed his code to automatically set the "color square" bits, but this caused random color square "bits" to be set on the fringes of my circle. Now I set the card to 4 black pixels if it is not already a color square card. As you said, I can get away with this in a star field game. Here is the latest version of the explosion, without the bugs... Catsfolly Man, I can't wait to play this. It looks impressive! -dZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 Man, I can't wait to play this. It looks impressive! -dZ. Thanks for the nice circle code! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 Trail experiment number #1 Here is an experiment with trails in the Air Hockey game: I think it looks good at some angles and speeds. What do you think? Catsfolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Trail experiment number #1 Here is an experiment with trails in the Air Hockey game: I think it looks good at some angles and speeds. What do you think? Catsfolly It looks awesome! Just one suggestion, how about "fading" the colour as the circles trail off? You could start with White, then Gray, then Dark Blue, or something like that. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 What do you think? How about using smaller and darker circles the further you are away from the puck? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Trail experiment number #1 Here is an experiment with trails in the Air Hockey game: I think it looks good at some angles and speeds. What do you think? Catsfolly That looks really good, but I found myself watching the trail so much I became distracted from the puck, so maybe, as DZ and Groovy suggested, something a little more subtle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Trail experiment number #1 Here is an experiment with trails in the Air Hockey game: I think it looks good at some angles and speeds. What do you think? Catsfolly That looks really good, but I found myself watching the trail so much I became distracted from the puck, so maybe, as DZ and Groovy suggested, something a little more subtle? Actually, fading the circles would look so cool, that it would grab my attention even more! -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Thanks for all the input. I thought the tan color was pretty subtle. So I'm surprised that some people think it is distracting. Having different images for the trail (smaller, faded out, etc), is problematic. In order to position the trail image on every vertical position, I have to have 8 copies of the image in memory, which uses up about 14 cards of GRAM memory. There are only 64 cards available, and I also need to use them to draw pucks and paddles and playfields and seven-segment displays, etc, so it is tough to justify using a lot more memory for just an effect. I'll try changing the colors and see how that works. Thanks, Catsfolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks for all the input. I thought the tan color was pretty subtle. So I'm surprised that some people think it is distracting. Having different images for the trail (smaller, faded out, etc), is problematic. In order to position the trail image on every vertical position, I have to have 8 copies of the image in memory, which uses up about 14 cards of GRAM memory. There are only 64 cards available, and I also need to use them to draw pucks and paddles and playfields and seven-segment displays, etc, so it is tough to justify using a lot more memory for just an effect. I'll try changing the colors and see how that works. Thanks, Catsfolly Just to be clear, I do not find it distracting at all. I said that as a joke because they look so cool, it's mesmerizing. The Tan colour is indeed subtle. I was just suggesting "fading" the colour to give it a bit more flair. But it certainly does not need it. -dZ. Edited June 24, 2012 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 More Trail experiments My research into trailing edge technology continues: I tried different colors to get a fade-out effect (thanks for the suggestions...) The best colors (for my light blue background) appear to be white, tan, and gray. Here is how it looks: I also tried erasing half the pixels in the trailing image circle (creating a kind of dotted line effect). This makes for a more subtle effect, but also exposes the Intellivision's blockiness. Here is an example: What do you think? Am I on the right trail? Catsfolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 More Trail experiments My research into trailing edge technology continues: I tried different colors to get a fade-out effect (thanks for the suggestions...) The best colors (for my light blue background) appear to be white, tan, and gray. Here is how it looks: I also tried erasing half the pixels in the trailing image circle (creating a kind of dotted line effect). This makes for a more subtle effect, but also exposes the Intellivision's blockiness. Here is an example: What do you think? Am I on the right trail? Catsfolly I think the first one is fantastic--a keeper! It looks very good, and the sequence of colours really do the trick. The second one it's a bit weird. Not bad, but the blockiness distorts the circles; and since they are so fleeting, it's hard to make them out. I vote for the full circle, fading colour, special effect (experiment #1). -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 By the way, do you suppose the goal posts are separated much too widely? It looks like it would be hard to miss a goal--and just as hard to defend it! -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsfolly Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 By the way, do you suppose the goal posts are separated much too widely? It looks like it would be hard to miss a goal--and just as hard to defend it! -dZ. That may be true. Alternatively, maybe the paddles should be bigger. But they might look too blocky that way (and it changes the physics a bit). Currently, there are still serious physics and collision bugs in Air Hockey, and the Ai is as dumb as dirt. So it is hard to evaluate the game play at this point. The next step is to write the code to allow the player to put the paddle on the puck and move the puck around the screen. Once I have that it will be easier to test and fix the collision code. Also, with all this "creeping featuritus", it looks like my dream of fitting into 16k words is fading fast. I guess it's time to learn about cart.mac.... Catsfolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Also, with all this "creeping featuritus", it looks like my dream of fitting into 16k words is fading fast. I guess it's time to learn about cart.mac.... Catsfolly I know what you mean. I went through the same realization, and it was a real shock to my expectations when I broke out the 16K word ROM layout. However, once I came to terms with it and allowed myself to absolutely ignore the ROM size completely, things changed for the better. When I accepted the fact that I had "all the DECLEs I could ever want for anything," that's when my animation sequences flourished into fancy and elaborate cartoons. I admit that my code is bloated and my animation technique is so primitive, it consumes large amounts of ROM for the smallest details. I'm now down to 8.8K left out of the 42K layout, mostly taken by animation graphic tiles. That's unconscionable! And I'm ashamed of it. On the other hand, it allowed me to concentrate on what's really important: making the game fun and cool. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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